Jamie Insall - Failed Drugs Test

[speedy_gonzales]

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Cocaine isn't used in medication.

Are you sure? When I was younger I had an operation on my nose and post-op my nasal cavity was filled with gauze soaked in a cocaine based solution to help reduce bone swelling.
I vaguely remember being as high as a kite and taking to my mum where ever 2nd word began with an F or a C. Mother was mortified and kept apologising to the nurses.

I also thought McFarlane Smith at Gorgie produced medical grade coke?

[SaulGoodman]

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I also thought McFarlane Smith at Gorgie produced medical grade coke?

It's Diamorphine they make is not? Medical Heroin

[pacoluna]

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If it is to do with medication he has taken then it certainly isn't cocaine.

Cocaine isn't used in medication.

If he has tested positive for cocaine he's away IMHO.

TAC is quite a common topical anaesthetic.

[bubblesmorrison]

He took medicine for sore gums and teeth without knowing what was in it.

[Smartie]

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He took medicine for sore gums and teeth without knowing what was in it.

What on Earth is likely to be in that that it would see you fail a drugs test?

[pacoluna]

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He took medicine for sore gums and teeth without knowing what was in it.

seems plausible.

[Billy Whizz]

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He took medicine for sore gums and teeth without knowing what was in it.

Crazy if he's taken something without 1st checking with Hibs medical people first

[Brightside]

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Crazy if he's taken something without 1st checking with Hibs medical people first

hes not the brightest tbh

[lord bunberry]

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What on Earth is likely to be in that that it would see you fail a drugs test?

Cocaine has the effect of numbing your gums. It's why you always see on films them rubbing a bit of it on their gums to check it's purity
I've no idea if it's present in any medication though.

[Wilson]

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Cocaine has the effect of numbing your gums. It's why you always see on films them rubbing a bit of it on their gums to check it's purity

Missed that on Wizard of Oz.

[lord bunberry]

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Missed that on Wizard of Oz.

It was on the bonus DVD mate

[silverhibee]

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Crazy if he's taken something without 1st checking with Hibs medical people first

Players know the drill Billy, they are warned not to take anything from over the counter chemists, if players have the cold they get sent home and are told to drink lots of water and stay in bed for a few days, they don't go out and buy cold remedies to get them through it, if anything is to be prescribed it would go through the club doctor.

[Billy Whizz]

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Players know the drill Billy, they are warned not to take anything from over the counter chemists, if players have the cold they get sent home and are told to drink lots of water and stay in bed for a few days, they don't go out and buy cold remedies to get them through it, if anything is to be prescribed it would go through the club doctor.

Exactly. Where we would he buy the sort of thing he was supposed to take anyway?

[scoopyboy]

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TAC is quite a common topical anaesthetic.

Correct, for example it is used as a local anaesthetic for some eye ops.

Not aware of it being used in medicines though.

[scoopyboy]

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Are you sure? When I was younger I had an operation on my nose and post-op my nasal cavity was filled with gauze soaked in a cocaine based solution to help reduce bone swelling.
I vaguely remember being as high as a kite and taking to my mum where ever 2nd word began with an F or a C. Mother was mortified and kept apologising to the nurses.

I also thought McFarlane Smith at Gorgie produced medical grade coke?

Are you sure it wasn't cocaine that was used as the local anaesthetic?

Macfarlan Smith does indeed make it for the Pharmaceutical Industry.

[scoopyboy]

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It's Diamorphine they make is not? Medical Heroin

Do both.

[Andy74]

Anyhow, he's not up to standard as a footballer so on that basis we won't see him playing for us again.

Interesting argument though if he was any good do you stand by him. The answer does depend how valuable they are to you and there's nothing wrong with that.

There is a school of though that management should be about trying to improve your poor performers or those with some issues impacting their jobs and to spend time with them and bring them up to standard. I prefer the alternative view that is being taught a lot more now in business which is to spend much more time with your good people and don't waste your time on trying to work through the issues with the others. It is rarely efficient or effective use of time and resource and you risk losing the good people who you really want to keep.

[Jag7]

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Anyhow, he's not up to standard as a footballer so on that basis we won't see him playing for us again.

Interesting argument though if he was any good do you stand by him. The answer does depend how valuable they are to you and there's nothing wrong with that.

There is a school of though that management should be about trying to improve your poor performers or those with some issues impacting their jobs and to spend time with them and bring them up to standard. I prefer the alternative view that is being taught a lot more now in business which is to spend much more time with your good people and don't waste your time on trying to work through the issues with the others. It is rarely efficient or effective use of time and resource and you risk losing the good people who you really want to keep.

Andy that is totally against what the glorious SNP want .. they want everyone the same .. dumb and controllable

[Eyrie]

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Andy that is totally against what the glorious SNP want .. they want everyone the same .. dumb and controllable

I'm no fan of the SNP, but let's keep this sort of stuff on the Holy Ground.

[JimBHibees]

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Andy that is totally against what the glorious SNP want .. they want everyone the same .. dumb and controllable

Most irrelevant post ever.

[Mantis Toboggan]

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No drugs should be illegal?!?!

Aye the current approach works brilliantly right enough. People die unnecessarily because of government policy.
But this is also probably a holy ground topic tbh.

[OsloHibs]

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He took medicine for sore gums and teeth without knowing what was in it.

Must pay a visit to the high street chemist when next in Scotland!

[Slavoj Zizek]

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Scotsman article from today;

Hibs striker Jamie Insall has failed a drugs test.

Insall, who is currently on loan at East Fife, tested positive after a match against Livingston on March 11.

The UK Anti-Doping (UKAD) has reportedly informed the League One outfit, who passed on the news to his parent club.

Insall joined Hibs in summer 2015 and is contracted with the club until 2018. Should UKAD uphold the findings, Insall could face a lengthy ban. According to a Sunday newspaper report, the player is contesting the result - claiming he had taken cold medication earlier that day. Insall, who has not made a competitive first-team appearance at Hibs, has scored 14 times in 50 games for East Fife. Hibs have declined to comment.

Read more at: http://www.edinburghnews.scotsman.co...test-1-4427161

Sounds about right. Saw him [and a few others] in TigerLilly last Friday [21st Apr] night....

[marinello59]

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Sounds about right. Saw him [and a few others] in TigerLilly last Friday [21st Apr] night....

What relevance does that have?

[Slavoj Zizek]

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What relevance does that have?

Nothing at all there Ace. Just sharing what I saw on Friday.

[Pete]

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What relevance does that have?

Tigerlilly is Chinese for opium den.

[Allant1981]

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Nothing at all there Ace. Just sharing what I saw on Friday.

apart from the fact you didnt really share much apart from you seen him!

[Slavoj Zizek]

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apart from the fact you didnt really share much apart from you seen him!

Balls. I've been rumbled. But of course, this post is of no relevance at all.

[Allant1981]

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Balls. I've been rumbled. But of course, this post is of no relevance at all.

glad you know

[mixumatosis]

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Christ, we dont even know what the laddie has taken and folk are calling for him to be binned.

Could be anything, hes fighting it, he must believe hes innocent, or else hes getting himself into more problems.

Innocent until proven guilty, which im sure will come out in a few weeks.

Far from it. The club(s) will have to continue paying him until the result of the B sample is confirmed since, as you say, he is innocent until proven guilty and it's the B sample that is regarded as conclusive. If he knows his career is over as a result of taking something he shouldn't, or because he was careless, then why would he not squeeze out an extra few weeks or months wages.

If the B sample confirms the original finding the club could take him to court to get that money back, but there's more PR value in just binning him and calling the matter closed, never mind the cost of going to court.

It's a pretty well worn ploy used by plenty of cyclists in the past.