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    Not sure that page mentions the many more killed by the west in Iraq in what many would view as terrorist attacks. I'm contracting myself here but there probably is just as much terrorism in the world as there ever was but the vast majority of it seems to be conducted by elected Governments mostly in the west. If a wiki link is good enough as proof.

    https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Iraq_War_documents_leak


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    https://www.techjuice.pk/a-data-scie...rorist-attack/

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    Quote Originally Posted by Ozyhibby View Post
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    Slight uptick last two years but definitely better than when I was a boy.


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    Only shows Europe and the U.S. so you can't really say "the world is safer". Also Scotland would never have been bombed by the IRA as the cause of a united Ireland had a lot more sympathy here. Nuclear war was the big fear in the late 70's/early 80's rather than terrorism.

    Back on topic this is a shocking attack. Thoughts and prayers with all affected.

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    Quote Originally Posted by wookie70 View Post
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    Very true. The most dangerous things in the UK tend to be your family and the politicians in Westminster. In America the police are multiple times more deadly to US citizens that ISIS or any other terrorists ever have been. If there was a big terrorist problem they could bring Cities to a stop easily by taking out water and electricity and kill hundreds with nothing more sophisticated than a slab on a railway line. We are being programmed to be fearful. None of that of course excuses any of the bamsticks that perpetrate acts like bombing buses or the grief of those who lose loved ones. Its all about perspective to me. Terrorism is such a small problem in the UK that it is hardly worth thinking about compared to some of the other atrocities that are happening to thousand of our citizens..
    Good post, the bit in bold especially so. The point of my post is that the perception of terrorism has increased far beyond the levels of the past, as attacks were mainly localised. Saturation media coverage in the last 15-20 years has highlighted the global nature of the current threat and has become almost a weekly event and I have a feeling that the types of attack from individuals using whatever is to hand will increase as ISIS is pushed out of Iraq and Syria and their 'fighters' disperse.

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    Quote Originally Posted by wookie70 View Post
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    Not sure that page mentions the many more killed by the west in Iraq in what many would view as terrorist attacks. I'm contracting myself here but there probably is just as much terrorism in the world as there ever was but the vast majority of it seems to be conducted by elected Governments mostly in the west. If a wiki link is good enough as proof.

    https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Iraq_War_documents_leak
    No argument from me in that respect.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Bishop Hibee View Post
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    Only shows Europe and the U.S. so you can't really say "the world is safer". Also Scotland would never have been bombed by the IRA as the cause of a united Ireland had a lot more sympathy here. Nuclear war was the big fear in the late 70's/early 80's rather than terrorism.

    Back on topic this is a shocking attack. Thoughts and prayers with all affected.
    It was the UK being discussed rather than Scotland in isolation tbf.

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    German Police say serious explosive devices used to attack Dortmund team bus.

    Sky News.

    Reports that devices were hidden in hedges on roadside.

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    Quote Originally Posted by wookie70 View Post
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    Not sure that page mentions the many more killed by the west in Iraq in what many would view as terrorist attacks. I'm contracting myself here but there probably is just as much terrorism in the world as there ever was but the vast majority of it seems to be conducted by elected Governments mostly in the west. If a wiki link is good enough as proof.

    https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Iraq_War_documents_leak
    I don't disagree on that.


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    Just watching the developments on German TV and a journalist asked if there's any truth that an extortion letter has been found near the scene. The reaction from the Dortmund press relations guy was very suspect.

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    Marc Bartra has operation on broken bone in his hand, German police saying a note has been found near the hotel the club bus was leaving from, what police believed was a targeted attack against the football side.

    http://news.sky.com/story/borussia-d...m-bus-10833968

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    'The game was postponed to Wednesday evening, with Borussia Dortmund fans offering Monaco supporters accommodation in the city so they can watch the match. Monaco fans had chanted in solidarity with their Dortmund rivals'

    That is an excellent way of sticking 2-fingers up at terrorists !

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    FOOTBALL SECURITY HIKE Champions League chiefs ramp up security after three explosions hit the Borussia Dortmund team bus
    Leicesterís players were immediately put under guard by armed cops in Madrid ahead of clash with Atletico, while more officers on streets.

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    I'm a bit confused by the comment from the Police as to having not yet decided if this is a terror attack.


    Somebody targeting a bus with three bombs sure sounds like a terror attack to me.



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    Quote Originally Posted by Keekaboo View Post
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    I'm a bit confused by the comment from the Police as to having not yet decided if this is a terror attack.


    Somebody targeting a bus with three bombs sure sounds like a terror attack to me.


    Yes what else could it be irrespective who or what group did it or their motivation to do it.

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    I am in dortmund for the game, the police AS expected are out in force today with extra checks into the stadium and checkpoints around the stadium. There is a strange atmosphere in the city centre. From what I gather nobody has taken responsability for the attack as yet.

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    Heard on news it could be any of three groups which may be responsible, islamists, leftists or holligans, all up in the air the noo

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    Quote Originally Posted by norwayhibs View Post
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    I am in dortmund for the game, the police AS expected are out in force today with extra checks into the stadium and checkpoints around the stadium. There is a strange atmosphere in the city centre. From what I gather nobody has taken responsability for the attack as yet.
    Hope you have a great time M and there are no more safety issues.

    If you get a chance, check out Strobels next to the stadium

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    Quote Originally Posted by norwayhibs View Post
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    I am in dortmund for the game, the police AS expected are out in force today with extra checks into the stadium and checkpoints around the stadium. There is a strange atmosphere in the city centre. From what I gather nobody has taken responsability for the attack as yet.

    Hope all goes well, you have a safe visit and enjoy the game.



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    Quote Originally Posted by Golden Fleece View Post
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    Interesting development but, for some reason, I'm not convinced.


    There's just something about the whole thing that doesn't fit.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Keekaboo View Post
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    Interesting development but, for some reason, I'm not convinced.


    There's just something about the whole thing that doesn't fit.
    in what way?

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    Quote Originally Posted by JimBHibees View Post
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    in what way?
    specifically targeting a football team - in a reinforced bus

    much easier to let off the explosives in an open, crowded area

    Does make me think its someone/a group with a specific grievance against Dortmund

    Who knows tho

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    Quote Originally Posted by Callum_62 View Post
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    specifically targeting a football team - in a reinforced bus

    much easier to let off the explosives in an open, crowded area

    Does make me think its someone/a group with a specific grievance against Dortmund

    Who knows tho

    I think that's part of it, yeah.

    It doesn't seem like their Modus Operandi and the 'Terrorist' aspect is just too convenient.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Deansy View Post
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    'The game was postponed to Wednesday evening, with Borussia Dortmund fans offering Monaco supporters accommodation in the city so they can watch the match. Monaco fans had chanted in solidarity with their Dortmund rivals'

    That is an excellent way of sticking 2-fingers up at terrorists !
    This must be one of the greatest acts of friendship in football for a long time, I take my hat off to those who took in the Monaco fans, in these troubled times, this is how we all should be thinking rather than allowing terror to tear us apart!!!!

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    Quote Originally Posted by where'stheslope View Post
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    This must be one of the greatest acts of friendship in football for a long time, I take my hat off to those who took in the Monaco fans, in these troubled times, this is how we all should be thinking rather than allowing terror to tear us apart!!!!
    It was, i'm just glad they were not playing sevco, to show their appreciation, they'd tan their drinks cabinet, bottle their granny and **** their cat.

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    http://www.bbc.co.uk/sport/football/39589517

    Interview about incident from Dortmund's Nuri Sahin. Articulates his emotions incredibly well, especially for someone speaking in a second language.


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    Simply wow, what is the world coming to.

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