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    I see the Electoral commission have finally caught up with Scotland in Union, a mostly Tory front but with some ex Labour types, regarding their expenses and active electioneering.

    Mostly landed gentry, and lots of donations from wealthy benefactors.

    The Green ink Gang will be beilin.

    http://www.thenational.scot/news/158...re_s_donation/


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    This was an interesting read on Toby Young.

    https://www.standard.co.uk/news/poli...-a3730881.html

    https://www.theguardian.com/media/20...-him-seriously

    I can’t copy a link to the tweet but @JMPSimor makes some good points about the personal backing for Toby Young from his self-serving Tory cabal.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Colr View Post
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    Thatís the way that I see it.
    Fair enough.

    But i dont think guys like bernie ecclestone and brian soutar count as poor, and i dont think donate (donated) for fun.

    And those union bosses certainly aint poor.

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    The Tory Party exists to keep a small number of very rich people happy.
    Not their fault. The electorate voted them in. Nowt queer as folk.

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    Teresa May hasnít got any better over the winter break, I see.

    Weasel words on every issue and no action on the critical issues of the day like inequality and lack of social mobility.

    This is easily the ****test Tory government I can recall.

    Canít stand her either! Entitled, patronising old biddie.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Colr View Post
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    This was an interesting read on Toby Young.

    https://www.standard.co.uk/news/poli...-a3730881.html

    https://www.theguardian.com/media/20...-him-seriously

    I canít copy a link to the tweet but @JMPSimor makes some good points about the personal backing for Toby Young from his self-serving Tory cabal.
    Toby Young seems quite mild now that Esther McVey has just been made Work and Pensions secretary.


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    Quote Originally Posted by ronaldo7 View Post
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    Toby Young seems quite mild now that Esther McVey has just been made Work and Pensions secretary.
    This bunch are more despicable than Thatcherís gang.
    Every gimmick hungry yob,
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    Quote Originally Posted by ronaldo7 View Post
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    Toby Young seems quite mild now that Esther McVey has just been made Work and Pensions secretary.
    Whatís she done?

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    Quote Originally Posted by ronaldo7 View Post
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    Toby Young seems quite mild now that Esther McVey has just been made Work and Pensions secretary.
    He's chucked it already!!!

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    Quote Originally Posted by -Jonesy- View Post
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    He's chucked it already!!!
    Yes. Public pressure brings down a disgusting Tory *******.

    Theresa was backing him at the week end.

    She's not had a good start to the year.


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    Yes. Public pressure brings down a disgusting Tory *******.

    Theresa was backing him at the week end.

    She's not had a good start to the year.

    Long may it continue, no pun intended!

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    Minister talks of ageing population contributing to #NHS England winter crisis but this should't be a surprise! Perhaps only having 2.4 hospital beds /1000 population in England, compared with 4/1000 in Scotland, isn't such a bright idea.

    Well, who knew the NHS in Scotland was better than in England.
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    Quote Originally Posted by -Jonesy- View Post
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    He's chucked it already!!!
    I wasn't even aware of the guy. Thought it was something to do with Phil Mitchell when i saw his coupon on the news.

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    Quote Originally Posted by ronaldo7 View Post
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    Yes. Public pressure brings down a disgusting Tory *******.

    Theresa was backing him at the week end.

    She's not had a good start to the year.
    Glad to see the little **** go but Iím sorry that Justine Greening was given the push.

    The fact that the Old Biddie wanted to get rid of her and appoint Young tells you a lot about her attitude to state education.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Colr View Post
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    Whatís she done?
    Take a trip down to your local disability centre, and mention that you're bringing Esther in for a visit.



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    Boris Johnson has his say on Trump.

    ďThe US is the biggest single investor in the UK - yet Khan & Corbyn seem determined to put this crucial relationship at risk. We will not allow US-UK relations to be endangered by some puffed up pompous popinjay in City Hall.Ē

    So he can be as racist as he likes but we should be welcoming him for financial reasons. It makes me sick to think these people are running our country and even sicker that normal people vote for them.

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    The Great Whiteout
    Not asking or expecting anybody to switch allegiances over this however, we should all at least be aware of it.

    https://wingsoverscotland.com/the-gr...t/#more-101119

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    Quote Originally Posted by snooky View Post
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    The Great Whiteout
    Not asking or expecting anybody to switch allegiances over this however, we should all at least be aware of it.

    https://wingsoverscotland.com/the-gr...t/#more-101119
    Odd as I read this on the BBC just yesterday..

    https://www.google.co.uk/amp/s/www.b...itics-42719324

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    Quote Originally Posted by snooky View Post
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    The Great Whiteout
    Not asking or expecting anybody to switch allegiances over this however, we should all at least be aware of it.

    https://wingsoverscotland.com/the-gr...t/#more-101119
    Geez, Wings gets ever more desperate. I honestly think we have less chance of Independence with the ranting coming from there.
    Bad weather has been Front page news in this country for as long as I can remember and Iím ancient so I donít see what he is rambling on about there. The political news is there for those of us who WANT to see it. Sadly politicians backing their own party in a House of Commons vote despite what they have said earlier is not headline news. If they had voted against the Government then that would have made a big splash.
    I wish all the energy being wasted by SNP supporters shooting the messenger ( a trait they mirror Trump on) was instead used making a positive case for Independence.
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    Conservative Government take a leaf out of the Donald's book.

    Mexico will pay for the wall?

    http://www.bbc.co.uk/news/uk-politics-42723401

    UK will pay for the security.
    #Persevered
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    Quote Originally Posted by Pete View Post
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    Boris Johnson has his say on Trump.

    ďThe US is the biggest single investor in the UK - yet Khan & Corbyn seem determined to put this crucial relationship at risk. We will not allow US-UK relations to be endangered by some puffed up pompous popinjay in City Hall.Ē

    So he can be as racist as he likes but we should be welcoming him for financial reasons. It makes me sick to think these people are running our country and even sicker that normal people vote for them.
    A perfect description of Boris as Mayor of London - "puffed up pompous popinjay in City Hall".

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    What are people taking about at the offices, the factories and the building sites? The snow and how it took them 2 hours to get to work or the constitutional make up of the UK? What is the average person in the street more interested in?

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    Quote Originally Posted by johnbc70 View Post
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    What are people taking about at the offices, the factories and the building sites? The snow and how it took them 2 hours to get to work or the constitutional make up of the UK? What is the average person in the street more interested in?
    Good point ...... and sad but true.

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    Quote Originally Posted by johnbc70 View Post
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    What are people taking about at the offices, the factories and the building sites? The snow and how it took them 2 hours to get to work or the constitutional make up of the UK? What is the average person in the street more interested in?
    I think that's pretty accurate.

    There is also the fact that the 'power grab' appears to me to simply be the fact that the EU repatriated powers land at Westminster first rather than going direct to the devolved administrations.

    I'm minded to think that most folk who will actually bother to consider this for a few minutes (rather than the impact of snow on their lives!) might not see that as a huge issue and that the reasonable expectation would be that once those powers are back then sensible discussions would quite quickly take place as to which ones then dovetail into the devolved powers and the changes made accordingly. And that's before any changes are made to the bill to improve the speed of those powers being transferred.

    It's also interesting that the SNP are making such a noise about it. These are powers after all that they are 100% comfortable with sitting in Brussels and are actively stating should stay there as part of the UK / Scotland staying in the EU. To then make a song and dance about them landing in Westminster first and how much of an affront that is to Scotland seems slightly unhinged...if the powers were so important and critical and important etc etc then why support them being in Brussels in the first place?

    But to be fair to the SNP I've never really got their absolute acceptance of centralised power in Brussels (and as seen recently the explicit support of even more centralisation) but their polar opposite of view on power residing (even temporarily) at Westminster....

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    I think that's pretty accurate.

    There is also the fact that the 'power grab' appears to me to simply be the fact that the EU repatriated powers land at Westminster first rather than going direct to the devolved administrations.

    I'm minded to think that most folk who will actually bother to consider this for a few minutes (rather than the impact of snow on their lives!) might not see that as a huge issue and that the reasonable expectation would be that once those powers are back then sensible discussions would quite quickly take place as to which ones then dovetail into the devolved powers and the changes made accordingly. And that's before any changes are made to the bill to improve the speed of those powers being transferred.

    It's also interesting that the SNP are making such a noise about it. These are powers after all that they are 100% comfortable with sitting in Brussels and are actively stating should stay there as part of the UK / Scotland staying in the EU. To then make a song and dance about them landing in Westminster first and how much of an affront that is to Scotland seems slightly unhinged...if the powers were so important and critical and important etc etc then why support them being in Brussels in the first place?

    But to be fair to the SNP I've never really got their absolute acceptance of centralised power in Brussels (and as seen recently the explicit support of even more centralisation) but their polar opposite of view on power residing (even temporarily) at Westminster....
    Careful now...

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    Quote Originally Posted by RyeSloan View Post
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    I think that's pretty accurate.

    There is also the fact that the 'power grab' appears to me to simply be the fact that the EU repatriated powers land at Westminster first rather than going direct to the devolved administrations.

    I'm minded to think that most folk who will actually bother to consider this for a few minutes (rather than the impact of snow on their lives!) might not see that as a huge issue and that the reasonable expectation would be that once those powers are back then sensible discussions would quite quickly take place as to which ones then dovetail into the devolved powers and the changes made accordingly. And that's before any changes are made to the bill to improve the speed of those powers being transferred.

    It's also interesting that the SNP are making such a noise about it. These are powers after all that they are 100% comfortable with sitting in Brussels and are actively stating should stay there as part of the UK / Scotland staying in the EU. To then make a song and dance about them landing in Westminster first and how much of an affront that is to Scotland seems slightly unhinged...if the powers were so important and critical and important etc etc then why support them being in Brussels in the first place?

    But to be fair to the SNP I've never really got their absolute acceptance of centralised power in Brussels (and as seen recently the explicit support of even more centralisation) but their polar opposite of view on power residing (even temporarily) at Westminster....
    Some good questions raised...

    Agree that there is a bit of a contradiction in the SNP's position, but then to be fair the same argument could perhaps be levelled at some 'unionists'.

    Will be comical, come indyref2, to see both side basically swap their message sheets with each other...

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    Quote Originally Posted by Golden Fleece View Post
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    Conservative Government take a leaf out of the Donald's book.

    Mexico will pay for the wall?

    http://www.bbc.co.uk/news/uk-politics-42723401

    UK will pay for the security.
    Macron wags his finger and May scurries over.

    It's a French problem and should be dealt with further East. She was an appalling Home Secretary with her inability to keep our borders secure and I'd like to know exactly why she agreed to accept more migrants.

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    Quote Originally Posted by The Pointer View Post
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    Macron wags his finger and May scurries over.

    It's a French problem and should be dealt with further East. She was an appalling Home Secretary with her inability to keep our borders secure and I'd like to know exactly why she agreed to accept more migrants.
    There are a few points that could be picked up in your post but I'll settle for questioning your geography. Further East?

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    Good point ...... and sad but true.
    The average reading age in Scotland is something like 11 years of age, people don't really care about the constitutional make up of the UK, they care about snow though as it impacts their daily life. For WoS to say there is some kind of BBC conspiracy based on reporting about the weather is ridiculous.

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    Quote Originally Posted by johnbc70 View Post
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    The average reading age in Scotland is something like 11 years of age, people don't really care about the constitutional make up of the UK, they care about snow though as it impacts their daily life. For WoS to say there is some kind of BBC conspiracy based on reporting about the weather is ridiculous.
    Read the media conspiracy thread though.

    Therr are plenty of people who believe something is biased if it reports things that they dont like.

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