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    Quote Originally Posted by Golden Fleece View Post
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    The man police believe to be responsible for the terrorist attack in Westminster has been formally identified as Khalid Masood, Scotland Yard says. Masood, aged 52, was born in Kent and detectives believe he was most recently living in the West Midlands.
    Masood was not the subject of any current investigations and there was no prior intelligence about his intent to mount a terrorist attack, police say.
    However, he was known to the police and had a range of previous convictions for assaults, including GBH, possession of offensive weapons and public order offences.
    He has not been convicted of any terrorism offences.
    I wonder what the criteria is for differentiating between nutter thinking he is one and an actual terrorist? Is there a difference?


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    I wonder what the criteria is for differentiating between nutter thinking he is one and an actual terrorist? Is there a difference?
    i would say that as soon as the nutter thinking he is one goes out and murders people he has become one

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    Quote Originally Posted by speedy_gonzales View Post
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    Listening to Jeremy Vine on Radio 2 this afternoon and it was mentioned that the attacker was shot by a ministers personal protection, not the armed police. No idea if there is any truth in it mind, still early days when it comes to the unveiling of how the afternoon unfolded.
    Makes you question if all police should be armed around there and maybe generally.

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    Quote Originally Posted by speedy_gonzales View Post
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    Listening to Jeremy Vine on Radio 2 this afternoon and it was mentioned that the attacker was shot by a ministers personal protection, not the armed police. No idea if there is any truth in it mind, still early days when it comes to the unveiling of how the afternoon unfolded.
    Not that it matters but the ministers close protection would have still been an armed cop. Whoever it was put three rounds into the guy and made sure he stopped him.The scary thing is had he not been present how far would the guy have got injuring others.
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    I know the PC who died wasn't armed but do they not all wear stab vests?

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    I know the PC who died wasn't armed but do they not all wear stab vests?
    thats what i thought , reports seem to be suggesting he wasnt wearing 1 though

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    a 75 year old victim had his life support machine turned off last night

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    Not sure if this is the right place, but there is an appeal to raise money to help support the families of the attack on Westminster Bridge. Not just the policeman.

    https://www.justgiving.com/crowdfunding/westminster
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    Quote Originally Posted by stantonhibby View Post
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    I know the PC who died wasn't armed but do they not all wear stab vests?
    By all accounts the guy was swinging two large knives, plenty damage could be done even with a vest to other parts of the body.
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    Heard it suggested he was stabbed in the side, around the armpit.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Golden Fleece View Post
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    Not sure if this is the right place, but there is an appeal to raise money to help support the families of the attack on Westminster Bridge. Not just the policeman.

    https://www.justgiving.com/crowdfunding/westminster

    i was having a wee search on that justgiving site last night and noticed some group ones for the families of the members of the public that died, and some individual ones, i see the one for the PC is presently an astonishing 710,000, then i read a few papers were up in arms over justgiving not waiving the 30,000 they've already received as their 'cut' (they take 5p for each donated) and today justgiving have started putting a freeze on some of the people that have been setting up the donation pages, especially this one


    http://www.bbc.co.uk/news/uk-39391865

    Concerns about fraud have prompted fund-raising website JustGiving to review all pages raising money for the victims of the Westminster attack.
    Money raised for victims will not be automatically released until verified.
    For the first time, the company has taken direct control of a crowd-funding page, which any individual can set up.
    Concerns were raised over a fund for the family of Aysha Frade, after a person who set up the page had the same name as a woman convicted of fraud.


    shame on any shyster trying to make a fast buck out of this event

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    I believe just giving also donated 10,000 so it's really only 20,000 that have taken off for admin fees etc. Imo I don't see nothing wrong in what just giving are doing.

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    Quote Originally Posted by pontius pilate View Post
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    I believe just giving also donated 10,000 so it's really only 20,000 that have taken off for admin fees etc. Imo I don't see nothing wrong in what just giving are doing.
    Exactly, JustGiving are a business providing a service. If people are not happy with the service fees, don't use the service.

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    Virgin Money Giving is same service as justgiving etc and they make no profit at all, more money for the charity and good cause.

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    the young woman that was in the water had her life support turned off last night, her boyfriend was planning to propose to her during their day out, heartbreaking

    http://www.bbc.co.uk/news/uk-39525596

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    Another potential attack in the Westminster area thwarted it would seem. Credit to the security forces by the sounds of it.

    It's a depressing fact of life these days that we've come to expect such things on a regular basis. With last week's murder of the policeman on the Champs Elysees there was almost a sense of 'yup, it's been a few weeks since the last attack...we were due another one'

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