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    Quote Originally Posted by High-On-Hibs View Post
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    I reckon it would hurt England the most. Because if Scotland leaves, you can expect Northern Ireland to soon follow, then Wales in the not too distant future.

    The term "little England" would be more apt than ever.
    Which is why they should bow to the inevitable and break into 4 seperate states each with an individual parliament but with the House of Lords converted to a UK assembly where we can manage things that we need to manage between us. Each entity can then take or leave its EU status. That's why we need indy ref earlier rather than later. At that point Scotland can decide whether the deal that May's English government is neogtiating on our behalf is acceptable or not.


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    Quote Originally Posted by Colr View Post
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    Which is why they should bow to the inevitable and break into 4 seperate states each with an individual parliament but with the House of Lords converted to a UK assembly where we can manage things that we need to manage between us. Each entity can then take or leave its EU status. That's why we need indy ref earlier rather than later. At that point Scotland can decide whether the deal that May's English government is neogtiating on our behalf is acceptable or not.
    100% (Except that it's far too sensible).

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    Quote Originally Posted by Colr View Post
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    Which is why they should bow to the inevitable and break into 4 seperate states each with an individual parliament but with the House of Lords converted to a UK assembly where we can manage things that we need to manage between us. Each entity can then take or leave its EU status. That's why we need indy ref earlier rather than later. At that point Scotland can decide whether the deal that May's English government is neogtiating on our behalf is acceptable or not.
    Which is the basis of a REAL federal system - and not the pretendy one that is suggested now as a non-independence straw to clutch onto. This was the old Liberal party stance before they threw away every principle they believed in and which led to Carmichael and Rennie.

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    I think it's possible/probable that, in the event of Scottish Independence becoming a reality, a number of HM's more "loyal" subjects will choose to relocate with some choosing Northern Ireland. This would hinder the prospect of Irish reunification for some time, whether by ballot or bullet.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Colr View Post
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    Which is why they should bow to the inevitable and break into 4 seperate states each with an individual parliament but with the House of Lords converted to a UK assembly where we can manage things that we need to manage between us. Each entity can then take or leave its EU status. That's why we need indy ref earlier rather than later. At that point Scotland can decide whether the deal that May's English government is neogtiating on our behalf is acceptable or not.
    This is an imaginative idea, but the problem for nationalists in each nation is that such a settlement still falls short of full independence and Irish unification. Of course they could see a federal system as a further stepping stone to full independence, so playing a slightly longer game.
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