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    Does anyone know what will happen to the status of the Channel Islands and Isle of Man as a result of Brexit? If they maintain their current status is there any reason why Scotland cannot enjoy the same relationship with the EU, along with Mayotte?

    Did the Channel Islands and Isle of Man have a vote on Brexit? Don't think so, so what happens to them?


    It's OK, I do have the answers but it does through up some interesting questions.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Golden Fleece View Post
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    Does anyone know what will happen to the status of the Channel Islands and Isle of Man as a result of Brexit? If they maintain their current status is there any reason why Scotland cannot enjoy the same relationship with the EU, along with Mayotte?

    Did the Channel Islands and Isle of Man have a vote on Brexit? Don't think so, so what happens to them?


    It's OK, I do have the answers but it does through up some interesting questions.
    Not being part of the UK, they are not currently in the EU, so I presume that their relationship with it would not alter.

    (For clarification, Jersey and Guernsey are separate States from each other, and therefore shouldn't be lumped together as "the Channel Islands".)

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    Quote Originally Posted by CropleyWasGod View Post
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    Not being part of the UK, they are not currently in the EU, so I presume that their relationship with it would not alter.

    (For clarification, Jersey and Guernsey are separate States from each other, and therefore shouldn't be lumped together as "the Channel Islands".)

    As crown dependencies the islands take part in the EU freedom of movement of goods but not labour, services or capital. They are outside the VAT area, but inside the customs union. There is also free movement of people as in the rest of Europe. A bit like Mayotte
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    #Persevered
    Scotland can be a beacon, within these islands and beyond, for a socially just and sustainable society. Whilst there are many priorities which will require independence, there is also much that can and must be done now by the Scottish Parliament and the Scottish Government.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Golden Fleece View Post
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    As crown dependencies the islands take part in the EU freedom of movement of goods but not labour, services or capital. They are outside the VAT area, but inside the customs union. There is also free movement of people as in the rest of Europe. A bit like Mayotte
    ...which begs a question.

    If Indy happens, and we retain the Quoon as head of state, do they remain as dependencies of both countries?

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    Quote Originally Posted by CropleyWasGod View Post
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    ...which begs a question.

    If Indy happens, and we retain the Quoon as head of state, do they remain as dependencies of both countries?
    Is that a sort of meat free head of state ?

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    Quote Originally Posted by stantonhibby View Post
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    Is that a sort of meat free head of state ?

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    If one partner in a Union refuses to allow another partner to have a say on its own future, it's not a Union. It's a colonist and a colony.

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    If one partner in a Union refuses to allow another partner to have a say on its own future, it's not a Union. It's a colonist and a colony.
    It had a say on its own future already, and No prevailed.

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    Quote Originally Posted by hibs0666 View Post
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    It had a say on its own future already, and No prevailed.
    Aye because the political landscape hasn't changed has it?

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    Quote Originally Posted by pacoluna View Post
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    Aye because the political landscape hasn't changed has it?
    Imagine if we kept the same Hibs team we had back in 2014

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    Aye because the political landscape hasn't changed has it?
    Aye, because the economic landscape hasn't changed has it? Remember when we were going to be rich rich rich with a booming oil industry?

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    Quote Originally Posted by CropleyWasGod View Post
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    ...which begs a question.

    If Indy happens, and we retain the Quoon as head of state, do they remain as dependencies of both countries?
    An independent Scotland should not be comprise of subjects of the Queen.

    They need to buy back Balmoral and Holyrood if they want to keep using them.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Colr View Post
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    An independent Scotland should not be comprise of subjects of the Queen.

    They need to buy back Balmoral and Holyrood if they want to keep using them.
    Could we not let them though Airbnb and Liz can pay the going rate?
    Space to let

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    Quote Originally Posted by Colr View Post
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    An independent Scotland should not be comprise of subjects of the Queen.

    They need to buy back Balmoral and Holyrood if they want to keep using them.
    Balmoral was bought privately by the Royal family, it's never been owned by the state.
    Every gimmick hungry yob,
    Digging gold from rock and roll
    Grabs the mic to tell us,
    He'll die before he's sold.

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    Quote Originally Posted by marinello59 View Post
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    Balmoral was bought privately by the Royal family, it's never been owned by the state.
    Are they paying their "two hooses tax"?

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    One of the biggest hurdles will be the incredibly hostile press. Almost all the papers was it 31 out of 32 were campaigning for a no vote some more hysterical than others. Cutting through that allied to the less than balanced tv coverage will be a major factor IMO.

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    This, in the Daily Record today, is a fair assessment of the questions that need to be answered by the SNP. If you want undecideds to vote for Independence, every answer to these points have to stand up to scrutiny. There's no point, in those of us already voting yes, whinging about there being no plan for brexit.

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    European petition to ask the EU parliament to guarantee Scotland's direct entry.

    https://you.wemove.eu/campaigns/scho...aign=20170315#

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