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    Apparently he didn't go for Xmas lunch at Maggie Thatchers though it would be horrific to think he did.

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    I read that yesterday. I think it'll be a case of turn the telly off for at least a fortnight.

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    Quote Originally Posted by JeMeSouviens View Post
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    I read that yesterday. I think it'll be a case of turn the telly off for at least a fortnight.
    I was in a wee old Irish bar in Liverpool when the announcement of the Queen Mother's death came on the news.

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    Quote Originally Posted by JeMeSouviens View Post
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    I read that yesterday. I think it'll be a case of turn the telly off for at least a fortnight.
    I see this scenario in my house....

    "The Queen is Dead. Long live .............. Rock'n'Roll"

    BTW, can you imagine the chaos it will cause amongst the hierarchy if London Bridge ACTUALLY does come down and the Queen is fine?
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    Very interesting that.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Haymaker View Post
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    Very interesting that.
    I understand that the fourth plinth in Trafalgar Square is reserved for a statue of Liz 2 on horseback.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Colr View Post
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    I understand that the fourth plinth in Trafalgar Square is reserved for a statue of Liz 2 on horseback.
    I propose we put a bronze sculpture of SDG on it first.

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    Quote Originally Posted by snooky View Post
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    i propose we put a bronze sculpture of sdg on it first.
    sdg?

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    Quote Originally Posted by Colr View Post
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    sdg?
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    Quote Originally Posted by Colr View Post
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    sdg?
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    Fascinating read

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    Maybe, Liz, the first, could pay for her upgrade from her vast fortunes invested offshore.

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    Quote Originally Posted by ronaldo7 View Post
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    Maybe, Liz, the first, could pay for her upgrade from her vast fortunes invested offshore.

    https://t.co/IxQwgsuNVk

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    All the arguments against the monarchy are understandable. It is the head of the class system and runs contrary to the democratic principle.

    That said I do think something would be lost getting rid. Should we ever get to independence I am not so sure we should quickly ditch. If anything a new house of Stuart would be my preference, imagine the PR if the Scottish king was able to make state visits to other sovereign countries.

    Franz in Bavaria is getting on a bit nowadays but Max and younger members of the family should be on the christmas card lists though nothing formal unless QE2's reign is over.

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    Quote Originally Posted by jockodile View Post
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    All the arguments against the monarchy are understandable. It is the head of the class system and runs contrary to the democratic principle.

    That said I do think something would be lost getting rid. Should we ever get to independence I am not so sure we should quickly ditch. If anything a new house of Stuart would be my preference, imagine the PR if the Scottish king was able to make state visits to other sovereign countries.

    Franz in Bavaria is getting on a bit nowadays but Max and younger members of the family should be on the christmas card lists though nothing formal unless QE2's reign is over.
    Good Lord, no.

    Id be happier with Hearty Harry making state visits on our behalf. We can have a president if we must.

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    Quote Originally Posted by ronaldo7 View Post
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    Maybe, Liz, the first, could pay for her upgrade from her vast fortunes invested offshore.

    https://t.co/IxQwgsuNVk

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    We have investments offshore surely. It's called oil.
    Pity it's not worth anything.

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    Interesting that the Queens offshore dealings have been quietly moved from the BBCs front page and replaced with the far more important revelation that 3 members of the Mrs Browns Boys cast have 2M invested offshore.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Pretty Boy View Post
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    Interesting that the Queens offshore dealings have been quietly moved from the BBCs front page and replaced with the far more important revelation that 3 members of the Mrs Browns Boys cast have 2M invested offshore.
    Looks like Lewis Hamilton is taking one for her maj too now

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    Quote Originally Posted by ronaldo7 View Post
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    Maybe, Liz, the first, could pay for her upgrade from her vast fortunes invested offshore.

    https://t.co/IxQwgsuNVk

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    So the Queen has 10 million stashed away in another country, while ordinary Joes are suffering. Maybe she could donate it to Grenfell where poor souls are still waiting to be rehoused, or even the poppy appeal in remembrance of those who gave their lives for Queen and country.

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    The tax payer gives money to the Queen who then hides it off shore to avoid giving the tax payer anything back.

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    Of course the stuff she has offshore isn't taxed in the UK anyway so there's no saving in tax.The income from it in the UK is taxed voluntarily although she doesn't have to pay it but chooses to do so.I'm no royalist but this is the reason the BBC has downplayed it-it's a non story and they hadn't realised when they first splashed it.
    As for the others-it's not exactly a revelation that tax havens are used for tax avoidance-hence the name-The IOM situation with the aviation industry has been available for years-that's why they all use it.
    I understand that in new revelations it is going to be revealed that the Pope veers towards Catholicism.

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    Quote Originally Posted by ancient hibee View Post
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    Of course the stuff she has offshore isn't taxed in the UK anyway so there's no saving in tax.The income from it in the UK is taxed voluntarily although she doesn't have to pay it but chooses to do so.I'm no royalist but this is the reason the BBC has downplayed it-it's a non story and they hadn't realised when they first splashed it.
    As for the others-it's not exactly a revelation that tax havens are used for tax avoidance-hence the name-The IOM situation with the aviation industry has been available for years-that's why they all use it.
    I understand that in new revelations it is going to be revealed that the Pope veers towards Catholicism.
    All very true. However, opting to pay the lower tax rates available "offshore" means that the exchequer has to balance the books by hitting ordinary people like you and me in the pocket. As for the Queen "choosing" to pay income tax, on her unearned income, she only did so in 1993 and only after a huge increase in her publicly funded pocket money.

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    100th anniversary of the October Revolution today.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Colr View Post
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    100th anniversary of the October Revolution today.
    And nearly 200 years on from Peterloo. We're to late for revolution but never been more in need of one.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Geo_1875 View Post
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    All very true. However, opting to pay the lower tax rates available "offshore" means that the exchequer has to balance the books by hitting ordinary people like you and me in the pocket. As for the Queen "choosing" to pay income tax, on her unearned income, she only did so in 1993 and only after a huge increase in her publicly funded pocket money.
    The problem with all of his is that it's the Treasury and others that are setting the rules.

    Lewis saves himself 3.3m but the scheme appears to be perfectly legal.

    Should we blame Lewis or the people setting the rules?

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    Quote Originally Posted by RyeSloan View Post
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    The problem with all of his is that it's the Treasury and others that are setting the rules.

    Lewis saves himself 3.3m but the scheme appears to be perfectly legal.

    Should we blame Lewis or the people setting the rules?
    That's a bad example as he's lied about his personal use of the jet to qualify for a VAT exemption. Or his accountants have lied about it.

    The schemes are designed by rich people for rich people so who do you blame?

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    Quote Originally Posted by Geo_1875 View Post
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    That's a bad example as he's lied about his personal use of the jet to qualify for a VAT exemption. Or his accountants have lied about it.

    The schemes are designed by rich people for rich people so who do you blame?
    I kinda agree with you, but i know lots of self employed people who use tax loopholes to avoid tax. An accountant wouldnt be doing his job properly if they didnt.

    Also i dount the civil servants who designed schemes are rich.

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