You are (still) missing the point. The BB position is that *irrespective of tarifs imposed in the UK->EU direction*, they will unilaterally not impose tariffs in the EU->UK direction.This quote is hidden because you are ignoring this member. Show Quote
iScotland in the EU single market will get the EU negotiated arrangement with rUK, there's no need for a special vindictive deal for us.
btw, I don't actually want Brexit to be an economic disaster and I don't expect imminent catastrophe, although a cliff edge WTO fallback might change that. A successful UK economy sustaining demand for iScottish goods and services would be better for all. However, I think it will lead to a long term decline in both economic performance and social conditions in the UK. I think it would be a huge mistake to tie our (Scotland's) colours to that mast.
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21-04-2017 11:01 AM #1891
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I take your point, and im not trying to defend the tories (or any orher party), im just trying to argue that the SNPs holier than thou attitude is a bit misplaced.
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21-04-2017 12:02 PM #1893
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So you are saying that the UK wont impose tariffs on imported goods, even if they are applied to exported goods? I find that unlikely.
But in that scenario, i take your point. Your logic is correct, bit i think the premise on which it is based isn't.
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21-04-2017 12:05 PM #1894This quote is hidden because you are ignoring this member. Show Quote
My posts regarding the Labour and Tory candidates were more to do with the social media storm which occurred in 2015 with Paco McSheepie, and how some will never learn.
Frank Ross on the other hand, should have known better. All paperwork will now be corrected.
I wonder if the others have apologised yet?
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21-04-2017 12:07 PM #1895
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Sturgeon launch the local manifesto says:
"The council elections are a clear choice between the SNP who stand for strong and vibrant local communities - and a Tory party which has become a single-issue, Brexit-at-all-costs machine"
Davidson days:
"We have two key points to make at this election. After 10 years of SNP centralisation, we want to make the case for localism - so decisions are put back in the hands of your local community.
“And, after a decade of constitutional division, we want to send a message to the SNP: we don’t want your unwanted independence referendum."
Doesn't look too dissimilar approach to me...
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21-04-2017 12:13 PM #1896
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I habe no clue what the hell paco mcsheepie is, or whether you are taking the mick with that name. Maybe its a reference to tomorrow... ☺
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21-04-2017 12:13 PM #1897This quote is hidden because you are ignoring this member. Show Quote
This kind of thing ...
http://www.cityam.com/248187/option-...nilateral-free
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21-04-2017 12:15 PM #1898This quote is hidden because you are ignoring this member. Show Quote
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You really need to brush up on your politics though.Last edited by ronaldo7; 21-04-2017 at 12:43 PM.
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21-04-2017 12:15 PM #1899
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21-04-2017 12:16 PM #1900This quote is hidden because you are ignoring this member. Show Quote
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21-04-2017 12:20 PM #1901
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Amazing as it may seem, im not really into partisan politics, especially parochial spats about who said what on twitter. I despise it, amd i despise what twitter amd Facebook habe done to political discourse.
Its why i enjoy these discussions, theu are generally very good. Twitter is to political discourse what shot drinking is to having a nice drink.
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21-04-2017 12:22 PM #1902
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Its not lost on me that i live in the only constituency in scotland to have both labour MP and MSP.
Thanks!
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21-04-2017 12:24 PM #1903This quote is hidden because you are ignoring this member. Show Quote
Nothing about it here.
https://d3n8a8pro7vhmx.cloudfront.ne...pdf?1492769664Last edited by ronaldo7; 21-04-2017 at 12:31 PM.
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21-04-2017 12:26 PM #1904This quote is hidden because you are ignoring this member. Show Quote
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21-04-2017 12:33 PM #1905This quote is hidden because you are ignoring this member. Show QuoteEvery gimmick hungry yob,
Digging gold from rock and roll
Grabs the mic to tell us,
He'll die before he's sold.
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21-04-2017 12:36 PM #1906This quote is hidden because you are ignoring this member. Show QuoteEvery gimmick hungry yob,
Digging gold from rock and roll
Grabs the mic to tell us,
He'll die before he's sold.
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21-04-2017 12:37 PM #1907
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Who does all of these extensive and convoluted tariffs that the EU implement on the rest of the globe benefit? Food tariffs and the CAP are a great example of where the EU significantly increases costs to it citizens, some estimates put food costs as 15-20% higher than global market prices.
Tariffs restrict trade and raise prices...if we really wanted a more fair and equal society we should be looking to remove these restrictions on trade and the protectionism provided to the lobbying self interests. That would be a truly open and inclusive outlook not just to Europe but to the rest of the world as well.
A brief article on EU the EU tariff madness can be found here: http://www.cityam.com/251648/eus-mad...import-tariffs
And if you can be bothered a wee look at the EUTariffs website is really quite mind boggling!
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21-04-2017 12:48 PM #1908
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21-04-2017 12:55 PM #1909This quote is hidden because you are ignoring this member. Show Quote
She hit her peak a Indy1. Alas, she's now just another blethering skate.
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21-04-2017 12:57 PM #1910This quote is hidden because you are ignoring this member. Show Quote
The point was that you can hardly go around espousing Brexit as a great idea for the UK because it will remove all tariffs and then say, ah, but you Scots will lose 60+% of your export market and hundreds of thousands of jobs because Brexit UK will impose punitive tariffs on iScotland.
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21-04-2017 12:59 PM #1911This quote is hidden because you are ignoring this member. Show Quote
We were discussing local election literature, not some soundbite.
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21-04-2017 01:09 PM #1912This quote is hidden because you are ignoring this member. Show Quote
The urban landscape accounts for 10.6% of England, 1.9% of Scotland, 3.6% of Northern Ireland and 4.1% of Wales.
Put another way, that means almost 93% of the UK is not urban. But even that isn't the end of the story because urban is not the same as built on.
In urban England, for example, the researchers found that just over half the land (54%) in our towns and cities is greenspace - parks, allotments, sports pitches and so on.
Furthermore, domestic gardens account for another 18% of urban land use; rivers, canals, lakes and reservoirs an additional 6.6%.
Their conclusion?
In England, "78.6% of urban areas is designated as natural rather than built". Since urban only covers a tenth of the country, this means that the proportion of England's landscape which is built on is…
… 2.27%.
So, even in urban areas, there are large swathes not built upon, lets fill in the gaps before we think about desecrating the rural landscapes.#Persevered
Scotland can be a beacon, within these islands and beyond, for a socially just and sustainable society. Whilst there are many priorities which will require independence, there is also much that can and must be done now by the Scottish Parliament and the Scottish Government.
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21-04-2017 01:28 PM #1913This quote is hidden because you are ignoring this member. Show Quote
Might not be to everyone's liking but is visionary and doable.
glory glory
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21-04-2017 01:47 PM #1914This quote is hidden because you are ignoring this member. Show Quote
Building houses does not eradicate homelessness. #justsaying
Scotland has a population density of 67.2/km2
By your logic, you should be building in Greenland, population density less than 1/km2Last edited by Golden Fleece; 21-04-2017 at 02:02 PM.
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Scotland can be a beacon, within these islands and beyond, for a socially just and sustainable society. Whilst there are many priorities which will require independence, there is also much that can and must be done now by the Scottish Parliament and the Scottish Government.
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