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    Oor Mhairi

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    http://www.independent.co.uk/news/uk/politics/snp-mhairi-black-video-conservative-minister-caroline-nokes-tory-hen-commons-scottish-footage-a7618706.html


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    Just telling it how it is. Tory MP talking ***** gets called out. Pity the microphones didn't pick it up.

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    I really don't like Mhairi Black, I think she's up there with the biggest ***** talkers of the lot.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Speedy View Post
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    I really don't like Mhairi Black, I think she's up there with the biggest ***** talkers of the lot.
    I'm no nationalist but I quite like her. It's great to see someone from her background getting a chance like this and taking it. She's young and learning but I think she's a better representative than most of the middle class, self serving ****s both in government and the civil service.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Colr View Post
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    I'm no nationalist but I quite like her. It's great to see someone from her background getting a chance like this and taking it. She's young and learning but I think she's a better representative than most of the middle class, self serving ****s both in government and the civil service.
    Totally agree on that point.


    I just think she gets a lot of (online/viral) backing because she's young and different even when what she says doesn't stand up.

    Her argument on trident being one example that sticks out.

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    Quote Originally Posted by ronaldo7 View Post
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    Just telling it how it is. Tory MP talking ***** gets called out. Pity the microphones didn't pick it up.
    Can't help wondering if you would be of a different opinion if an English Tory MP had directed anything similar to a Scottish MP ... it's not really an acceptable form of debate is it? (If she actually said what is alleged that is...)

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    Quote Originally Posted by PeeJay View Post
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    Can't help wondering if you would be of a different opinion if an English Tory MP had directed anything similar to a Scottish MP ... it's not really an acceptable form of debate is it? (If she actually said what is alleged that is...)
    She mumbled "don't talk *****", audible only to her colleague beside her. Compared to the volume and nature of brouhaha that surrounds PMQs and other major debates, when MPs are openly mocked and verbally bullied, that "incident" is trifling .
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    She mumbled "don't talk *****", audible only to her colleague beside her. Compared to the volume and nature of brouhaha that surrounds PMQs and other major debates, when MPs are openly mocked and verbally bullied, that "incident" is trifling .
    At least most of us can relate to "don't talk *****". This on the other hand ...

    http://www.huffingtonpost.co.uk/entr...b03ab749dd65f6


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    Quote Originally Posted by Speedy View Post
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    Totally agree on that point.


    I just think she gets a lot of (online/viral) backing because she's young and different even when what she says doesn't stand up.

    Her argument on trident being one example that sticks out.
    What part of her argument?

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    Quote Originally Posted by JeMeSouviens View Post
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    At least most of us can relate to "don't talk *****". This on the other hand ...

    http://www.huffingtonpost.co.uk/entr...b03ab749dd65f6

    The guy's barking mad if he thinks I swallow that excuse.

    The standard dialogue in the House is upper-crust baloney - all those "Haw-Haws" (translated "Hear Hear").

    Mhari at least tells it like it is (well, it's from her point of view I'll grant you that).

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    Quote Originally Posted by PeeJay View Post
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    Can't help wondering if you would be of a different opinion if an English Tory MP had directed anything similar to a Scottish MP ... it's not really an acceptable form of debate is it? (If she actually said what is alleged that is...)
    I take it you don't watch "Scottish questions" on a Wednesday.

    I suppose it's better than getting barking noises directed to you when you're on your feet eh. Woof woof indeed.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Hibrandenburg View Post
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    What part of her argument?
    It can't be a deterent because we'd all be dead.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Speedy View Post
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    It can't be a deterent because we'd all be dead.
    Just read her speech...dear oh dear.

    There might have been a point in there somewhere but suggesting you don't need nuclear weapons cause you would be dead anyway is rather missing the point about the word 'deterrent'. To use her language having nuclear missiles is actually hee haw to do with firing them back.

    As for nuclear waste coming through her local train station, I'm no expert but I would be very surprised if trident missiles used nuclear fuel rods.

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    Quote Originally Posted by ronaldo7 View Post
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    I take it you don't watch "Scottish questions" on a Wednesday.

    I suppose it's better than getting barking noises directed to you when you're on your feet eh. Woof woof indeed.
    Must admit, I have tended to pass on that particular pleasure - This issue and your "woof woof" reference indicate that I may well have been right to do so. While a "young" less-experienced woman can certainly be forgiven for perhaps acting without the due respect for the place and occasion, it is difficult to understand why more mature adults - who should know better - also do so.

    Anyway, I guess you think it will all be so much better and different in an indepedent Scotland .... will it ever be so?

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    Just read her speech...dear oh dear.

    There might have been a point in there somewhere but suggesting you don't need nuclear weapons cause you would be dead anyway is rather missing the point about the word 'deterrent'. To use her language having nuclear missiles is actually hee haw to do with firing them back.

    As for nuclear waste coming through her local train station, I'm no expert but I would be very surprised if trident missiles used nuclear fuel rods.
    The nuclear powered subs that carry them do though.

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    Quote Originally Posted by PeeJay View Post
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    Must admit, I have tended to pass on that particular pleasure - This issue and your "woof woof" reference indicate that I may well have been right to do so. While a "young" less-experienced woman can certainly be forgiven for perhaps acting without the due respect for the place and occasion, it is difficult to understand why more mature adults - who should know better - also do so.

    Anyway, I guess you think it will all be so much better and different in an indepedent Scotland .... will it ever be so?
    They tend to be better behaved at Holyrood, all parties.
    Space to let

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    Quote Originally Posted by JeMeSouviens View Post
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    The nuclear powered subs that carry them do though.
    All of the Royal Navy submarines are nuclear powered so unless she is suggesting that the UK scraps its whole submarine fleet her point had hee haw to do with Trident.

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    All of the Royal Navy submarines are nuclear powered so unless she is suggesting that the UK scraps its whole submarine fleet her point had hee haw to do with Trident.
    tbh, I haven't read/didn't hear her speech.

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    Quote Originally Posted by JeMeSouviens View Post
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    tbh, I haven't read/didn't hear her speech.
    Ha well I hadn't either till it was mentioned on here...another two minutes on google suggests that the nuclear fuel rods that go through the station she mentioned are actually from Hunterston on the way to Sellafield and are managed by EDF energy so quite what that's got to do with nuclear deterrents (apart from they both have nuclear in the subject title) I have no idea.

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    Quote Originally Posted by PeeJay View Post
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    Must admit, I have tended to pass on that particular pleasure - This issue and your "woof woof" reference indicate that I may well have been right to do so. While a "young" less-experienced woman can certainly be forgiven for perhaps acting without the due respect for the place and occasion, it is difficult to understand why more mature adults - who should know better - also do so.

    Anyway, I guess you think it will all be so much better and different in an indepedent Scotland .... will it ever be so?
    I think it already is. The Scottish parliament acts and conducts it's business very differently from Westminster. We give our parliamentarians modern day stuff like buttons for voting with, (Don't ask Kezia) instead of sword hooks.

    I do wonder when some will move into the 20th century, never mind the 21st.

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    Quote Originally Posted by ronaldo7 View Post
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    I do wonder when some will move into the 20th century, never mind the 21st.
    Good point, yet, by hoping Scotland "returns" to what you refer to elsewhere in the Brexit thread as the "normal state" of "independence", I can't help wondering if "you" may well be taking "us" back into the 18th century ... albeit one with voting buttons on the modern desk!

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    Good point, yet, by hoping Scotland "returns" to what you refer to elsewhere in the Brexit thread as the "normal state" of "independence", I can't help wondering if "you" may well be taking "us" back into the 18th century ... albeit one with voting buttons on the modern desk!
    The days of supranational states where one nation dominates (USSR/Russia, Yugoslavia/Serbia, Czechoslovakia/Czech, Ottoman/Turkey, Austria-Hungary/Austria) are largely over.

    Smaller, independent countries mutually co-operating on the basis of representation through the EU is very much the modern norm.

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    Quote Originally Posted by PeeJay View Post
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    Good point, yet, by hoping Scotland "returns" to what you refer to elsewhere in the Brexit thread as the "normal state" of "independence", I can't help wondering if "you" may well be taking "us" back into the 18th century ... albeit one with voting buttons on the modern desk!
    Returns to making decisions by ourselves, for ourselves, just like every normal Independent nation.

    Simple really.

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    Quote Originally Posted by ronaldo7 View Post
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    Returns to making decisions by ourselves, for ourselves, just like every normal Independent nation.

    Simple really.
    Yeah, but then simple is not necessarily the best way to go is it? Too many populists around now with simple promises, answers and solutions for a complicated world, I fear ...


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    Quote Originally Posted by PeeJay View Post
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    Yeah, but then simple is not necessarily the best way to go is it? Too many populists around now with simple promises, answers and solutions for a complicated world, I fear ...

    Shame that.

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    There's an element of the "och, whaes like us" to the admiration of Ms Black IMO. If she was upper class and/or English but saying roughly the same things, there'd be a lot less "great performance in the Commons today" style chat around her IMO.

    That said, seeing as Labour and their leader are patently unable to do so, it's good to see someone trying to hold this Tory cluster **** to account by asking a tough question now and again in a vaguely engaging manner

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    Quote Originally Posted by lyonhibs View Post
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    There's an element of the "och, whaes like us" to the admiration of Ms Black IMO. If she was upper class and/or English but saying roughly the same things, there'd be a lot less "great performance in the Commons today" style chat around her IMO.
    Has anyone here ever met her in person?

    I've been on the same flights as her from London City (which seems to be the airport to spot Scottish politicians. Don't know where they hang out in Glasgow or Edinburgh but its usually not the BA lounges) several times. Maybe she is just "off" in the airport, but she always struck me as odd. Definitely did not give off a woman of the people vibe.

    Also, she seems to travel a lot with this guy who looks like he is 16. He looks like he should be in school rather than being old enough to be working for her. I'd say he was her boyfriend if I didn't know any better.

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    Quote Originally Posted by NYHibby View Post
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    Has anyone here ever met her in person?

    I've been on the same flights as her from London City (which seems to be the airport to spot Scottish politicians. Don't know where they hang out in Glasgow or Edinburgh but its usually not the BA lounges) several times. Maybe she is just "off" in the airport, but she always struck me as odd. Definitely did not give off a woman of the people vibe.

    Also, she seems to travel a lot with this guy who looks like he is 16. He looks like he should be in school rather than being old enough to be working for her. I'd say he was her boyfriend if I didn't know any better.
    What is it that you want her to do, on the plane, that would give you more "women of the people vibe"?

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