Next Three Games

[Waxy]

I'd actually take a win against St Mirren, a win against Ayr and a Draw against utd.

[Dashing Bob S]

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I'd actually take a win against St Mirren, a win against Ayr and a Draw against utd.

If we had that sequence of results we'd probably win the flag and have an outside shot at the cup. Most people would take that.

[Liberal Hibby]

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If we had that sequence of results we'd probably win the flag and have an outside shot at the cup. Most people would take that.

To be honest two league draws and a cup win probably does that too. We'd be eight clear with United having ten to play.

[houstonhibbee]

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To be honest two league draws and a cup win probably does that too. We'd be eight clear with United having ten to play.

5 consecutive draws in the league will have this place in meltdown

[NAE NOOKIE]

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See when u say it's a must ?? We are never gonna win the league it's a non competition and for that if I was offered the Scottish Cup over promotion (all hypothetical) I'd take the Scottish Cup everytime.

Finish in the top 4 in the premiership and you will likely qualify for Europe .... finish in the top 4 in the championship it had better be in first place because only that guarantees you a chance to play for a place in Europe in the following season / seasons, unless you are planning on winning the Scottish cup every season during this extended stay in the 2nd tier you don't seem to be bothered about. Believe it or not they still let you enter the Scottish and League cups as well if you are in the premiership ...... brilliant eh?

That aside, if you seriously think the seasons that follow staying down this season will be anything like this one even if we were to retain the cup then you must be mental .... anybody who sticks by Hibs will be watching them as part of crowds of 7 to 8 thousand and that will be a team minus McGinn, Cummings, Fyvie and whoever else we can get a few bob for or who decides to jump ship.
You will be watching Hibs play the same park the bus teams full of cloggers and time wasters as you have the last 3 seasons, but with players even less likely to get us promoted than the current squad ...... not to mention absolutely no chance in the cup you think is so much more valuable than a place in the top league.

So if its a choice between retaining the Scottish cup and the above scenario or getting promoted with games against Celtic, Sevco, Aberdeen, Hertz and Dundee in front of 16, 17, 18, 19, 20,000 crowds as a result of boosted season ticket sales and huge away supports, plus the signing of one or two quality players then I'll take promotion every time and I cant believe any Hibs fan who has suffered the trials of the last 3 seasons wouldn't either.

If this is a 'choice' then its a choice between watching Hibs enter a situation it will take us years to recover from, or watching the club rake in the cash from bigger crowds, better TV money, better sponsorship deals and playing teams who actually come to play football for the most part .... against a Hibs team with an even better squad than we have now.

There is no choice ..... the cup is a free hit we can all enjoy .... but all that matters is the league, the league, the league end of story.

[NAE NOOKIE]

If we can get a win at St Mirren it will be our most significant result of the season IMO ....... it will pave the way for a go at the cup tie against Ayr with the players knowing they can just go for it with the pressure off to an extent. That will take us into the game with Dundee Utd knowing that a draw will be a good result, which if we manage that will make our chances of winning the league 70/30 instead of 50/50.

Don't get me wrong ... I would love to get back to the cup final for the fun of it and from a financial perspective the 1/4 of the pooled gate and TV money we would get from two semi finals containing Hibs, Aberdeen, Celtic and Sevco ( if that was the line up ) would be significant even if we didn't make the final .... from that point of view Ayr Utd is a very important game.

But compared to the next two league games it is insignificant ........ no amount of cup semis or cup finals will compensate financially for the loss of revenue from plummeting ST sales, walk ups and the reduction in other income streams that would be the result of failure in the league.

I know I'm repeating myself from my last post on this ...... but I don't think it can be stressed enough how important going up this season is.

[houstonhibbee]

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If we can get a win at St Mirren it will be our most significant result of the season IMO ....... it will pave the way for a go at the cup tie against Ayr with the players knowing they can just go for it with the pressure off to an extent. That will take us into the game with Dundee Utd knowing that a draw will be a good result, which if we manage that will make our chances of winning the league 70/30 instead of 50/50.

Don't get me wrong ... I would love to get back to the cup final for the fun of it and from a financial perspective the 1/4 of the pooled gate and TV money we would get from two semi finals containing Hibs, Aberdeen, Celtic and Sevco ( if that was the line up ) would be significant even if we didn't make the final .... from that point of view Ayr Utd is a very important game.

But compared to the next two league games it is insignificant ........ no amount of cup semis or cup finals will compensate financially for the loss of revenue from plummeting ST sales, walk ups and the reduction in other income streams that would be the result of failure in the league.

I know I'm repeating myself from my last post on this ...... but I don't think it can be stressed enough how important going up this season is.

maybe we should take a poll. would you prefer the cup again or promotion. I think 90% would say the latter this time.
retain the cup would be amazing - but not if we didn't go up

[hibbysam]

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If we can get a win at St Mirren it will be our most significant result of the season IMO ....... it will pave the way for a go at the cup tie against Ayr with the players knowing they can just go for it with the pressure off to an extent. That will take us into the game with Dundee Utd knowing that a draw will be a good result, which if we manage that will make our chances of winning the league 70/30 instead of 50/50.

Don't get me wrong ... I would love to get back to the cup final for the fun of it and from a financial perspective the 1/4 of the pooled gate and TV money we would get from two semi finals containing Hibs, Aberdeen, Celtic and Sevco ( if that was the line up ) would be significant even if we didn't make the final .... from that point of view Ayr Utd is a very important game.

But compared to the next two league games it is insignificant ........ no amount of cup semis or cup finals will compensate financially for the loss of revenue from plummeting ST sales, walk ups and the reduction in other income streams that would be the result of failure in the league.

I know I'm repeating myself from my last post on this ...... but I don't think it can be stressed enough how important going up this season is.

I think if we win against St Mirren and draw against United, our chances would be more 90/10 than 70/30. We would be 10 clear with only 10 to play, United would have to win every game (no chance) to have a serious prospect of winning the league.

[Hibernia&Alba]

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Finish in the top 4 in the premiership and you will likely qualify for Europe .... finish in the top 4 in the championship it had better be in first place because only that guarantees you a chance to play for a place in Europe in the following season / seasons, unless you are planning on winning the Scottish cup every season during this extended stay in the 2nd tier you don't seem to be bothered about. Believe it or not they still let you enter the Scottish and League cups as well if you are in the premiership ...... brilliant eh?

That aside, if you seriously think the seasons that follow staying down this season will be anything like this one even if we were to retain the cup then you must be mental .... anybody who sticks by Hibs will be watching them as part of crowds of 7 to 8 thousand and that will be a team minus McGinn, Cummings, Fyvie and whoever else we can get a few bob for or who decides to jump ship.
You will be watching Hibs play the same park the bus teams full of cloggers and time wasters as you have the last 3 seasons, but with players even less likely to get us promoted than the current squad ...... not to mention absolutely no chance in the cup you think is so much more valuable than a place in the top league.

So if its a choice between retaining the Scottish cup and the above scenario or getting promoted with games against Celtic, Sevco, Aberdeen, Hertz and Dundee in front of 16, 17, 18, 19, 20,000 crowds as a result of boosted season ticket sales and huge away supports, plus the signing of one or two quality players then I'll take promotion every time and I cant believe any Hibs fan who has suffered the trials of the last 3 seasons wouldn't either.

If this is a 'choice' then its a choice between watching Hibs enter a situation it will take us years to recover from, or watching the club rake in the cash from bigger crowds, better TV money, better sponsorship deals and playing teams who actually come to play football for the most part .... against a Hibs team with an even better squad than we have now.

There is no choice ..... the cup is a free hit we can all enjoy .... but all that matters is the league, the league, the league end of story.

Excellent post

St Mirren away is a big game. Mess that up and it will be squeaky bum time. On the other hand, win that and win again at Tannadice, and the league is almost won.

[greenlex]

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Finish in the top 4 in the premiership and you will likely qualify for Europe .... finish in the top 4 in the championship it had better be in first place because only that guarantees you a chance to play for a place in Europe in the following season / seasons, unless you are planning on winning the Scottish cup every season during this extended stay in the 2nd tier you don't seem to be bothered about. Believe it or not they still let you enter the Scottish and League cups as well if you are in the premiership ...... brilliant eh?

That aside, if you seriously think the seasons that follow staying down this season will be anything like this one even if we were to retain the cup then you must be mental .... anybody who sticks by Hibs will be watching them as part of crowds of 7 to 8 thousand and that will be a team minus McGinn, Cummings, Fyvie and whoever else we can get a few bob for or who decides to jump ship.
You will be watching Hibs play the same park the bus teams full of cloggers and time wasters as you have the last 3 seasons, but with players even less likely to get us promoted than the current squad ...... not to mention absolutely no chance in the cup you think is so much more valuable than a place in the top league.

So if its a choice between retaining the Scottish cup and the above scenario or getting promoted with games against Celtic, Sevco, Aberdeen, Hertz and Dundee in front of 16, 17, 18, 19, 20,000 crowds as a result of boosted season ticket sales and huge away supports, plus the signing of one or two quality players then I'll take promotion every time and I cant believe any Hibs fan who has suffered the trials of the last 3 seasons wouldn't either.

If this is a 'choice' then its a choice between watching Hibs enter a situation it will take us years to recover from, or watching the club rake in the cash from bigger crowds, better TV money, better sponsorship deals and playing teams who actually come to play football for the most part .... against a Hibs team with an even better squad than we have now.

There is no choice ..... the cup is a free hit we can all enjoy .... but all that matters is the league, the league, the league end of story.

Decent post. One small thing tho. When we return to being a mid table top flight club not challenging or apable of really winning anything we will. E back to sub 10k crowds.

[Hibernia&Alba]

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Decent post. One small thing tho. When we return to being a mid table top flight club not challenging or apable of really winning anything we will. E back to sub 10k crowds.

There is a potential dilemma there; the key will be to kick on and progress if promoted. Celtc aside, we could be competitive with the rest of the league if promoted, and should be looking at ways to compete for second place. Hearts and Rangers are very poor teams which could be beaten. Settling for mid table anonymity shouldn't be an option: this is a perfect time to make progress in the SPL.

[Ilovehibs]

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I think if we win against St Mirren and draw against United, our chances would be more 90/10 than 70/30. We would be 10 clear with only 10 to play, United would have to win every game (no chance) to have a serious prospect of winning the league.

Don't forget about Morton. They are not far away and going well.

[calumhibee1]

As someone else said, even two draws in the next two league games leaves us 8 ahead with United only having 30 points to play for. The way they're going they'd be lucky to pick up 20 meaning we'd need to somehow avoid winning nearly all our remaining games.

If we go on and win the next three games against St Mirren, Ayr and DU, then we can start rotating the squad about a bit in preparation for the semi final IMO.

[JimboHibs]

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If we can get a win at St Mirren it will be our most significant result of the season IMO ....... it will pave the way for a go at the cup tie against Ayr with the players knowing they can just go for it with the pressure off to an extent. That will take us into the game with Dundee Utd knowing that a draw will be a good result, which if we manage that will make our chances of winning the league 70/30 instead of 50/50.

Don't get me wrong ... I would love to get back to the cup final for the fun of it and from a financial perspective the 1/4 of the pooled gate and TV money we would get from two semi finals containing Hibs, Aberdeen, Celtic and Sevco ( if that was the line up ) would be significant even if we didn't make the final .... from that point of view Ayr Utd is a very important game.

But compared to the next two league games it is insignificant ........ no amount of cup semis or cup finals will compensate financially for the loss of revenue from plummeting ST sales, walk ups and the reduction in other income streams that would be the result of failure in the league.

I know I'm repeating myself from my last post on this ...... but I don't think it can be stressed enough how important going up this season is.

Don't get me wrong I'd love to do both but hypothetically if it was a straight choice to get promoted or Scottish Cup again it would be Scottish Cup for me.

[Lancs Harp]

Its one of the oldest cliches in the football world but just take each game as it comes. Our biggest game is always the next one for me. No need to look over our shoulders, we need a winning mentality both as a team and as supporters and should go out on the field expecting to win every game we play.

Hopefully we will learn alot from saturdays match, which taking the positive from, the gap at the top didnt close and we got a point we didnt really deserve to get.

We move on.

[hibbysam]

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Don't forget about Morton. They are not far away and going well.

If we win Wednesday and Draw with United, we would be 13 ahead of Morton who will have 11 games to go. Again they would basically have to win every game they have remaining to seriously challenge, and with Falkirk, Dunfermline and Hibs (even Dumbarton) away, and Hibs, United, Dunfermline and QOTS at home I can't see them winning all 11 games.

[Borderhibbie76]

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To be honest two league draws and a cup win probably does that too. We'd be eight clear with United having ten to play.

United have 11 to play they will have a game in hand on us after weds

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[SeanWilson]

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Decent post. One small thing tho. When we return to being a mid table top flight club not challenging or apable of really winning anything we will. E back to sub 10k crowds.

Cracking attitude! 👏

[percy veer]

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If we can get a win at St Mirren it will be our most significant result of the season IMO ....... it will pave the way for a go at the cup tie against Ayr with the players knowing they can just go for it with the pressure off to an extent. That will take us into the game with Dundee Utd knowing that a draw will be a good result, which if we manage that will make our chances of winning the league 70/30 instead of 50/50.

Don't get me wrong ... I would love to get back to the cup final for the fun of it and from a financial perspective the 1/4 of the pooled gate and TV money we would get from two semi finals containing Hibs, Aberdeen, Celtic and Sevco ( if that was the line up ) would be significant even if we didn't make the final .... from that point of view Ayr Utd is a very important game.

But compared to the next two league games it is insignificant ........ no amount of cup semis or cup finals will compensate financially for the loss of revenue from plummeting ST sales, walk ups and the reduction in other income streams that would be the result of failure in the league.

I know I'm repeating myself from my last post on this ...... but I don't think it can be stressed enough how important going up this season is.

I would also take a cup win every time, what do you get finishing 5th down in the prem nowt. a few seasons of that will return to rubbish crowds. Do you honestly think if we won the cup again crowds would go down to 8000?

[pacoluna]

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maybe we should take a poll. would you prefer the cup again or promotion. I think 90% would say the latter this time.
retain the cup would be amazing - but not if we didn't go up

pretty sure if the poll included "both" that would get 100%

[Lancs Harp]

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pretty sure if the poll included "both" that would get 100%

Aye put me down for both.

[pacoluna]

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You believe what you like. I hope we win obviously. Should we fail to progress? I wouldn't be bothered. Fail to beat St Mirren and United? I would most certainly be bothered about that. Last season it was a close call, this year the league takes all priority.

we wont get beat from st mirren and dundee united we haven't been beating in the last 13 games, You use the word fail a lot.. why? there is no reason at all to be doubtful giving our recent results, we aren't losing and that can only be a positive. I honestly don't know where this negative outlook comes from!

[GreenCastle]

Scottish cup party v Championship League Winning Party.

We know which will be bigger.

Anyway..next 3

St Mirren..improving - fighting for their lives and we have several injuries. Never a fan of rearranged midweek games but hopeful we can bring back 3 points against ex jambo coach Jack Ross.

Ayr - all pressure on us...massive financial reward getting to semi final..ticket money , tv money and prize money (more merchandise sold etc) - really important game. Hopefully a full ER to hell finances also.

Dundee Utd away - we have a different team to last time we destroyed them. This game will be more like first game I feel. Win or draw this and 9 games left for us it would be hard for anyone to catch us unless we have a massive collapse.

Next 2 weeks massive in our season / future.

[jacomo]

We have now made a credible defence of our Cup win. Whatever happens now we can hold our heads up high, with memorable wins in both rounds so far.

In that sense, the pressure is off. Hopefully the Ayr game will take care of itself and we get at least 4 points from next two League games - then we will be in great shape.

[Liberal Hibby]

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United have 11 to play they will have a game in hand on us after weds

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They have 10 to play after playing us. That's why avoiding defeat then is probably enough (and v Morton).

[Borderhibbie76]

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They have 10 to play after playing us. That's why avoiding defeat then is probably enough (and v Morton).

Ah see what u mean mate 👍

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[NAE NOOKIE]

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I would also take a cup win every time, what do you get finishing 5th down in the prem nowt. a few seasons of that will return to rubbish crowds. Do you honestly think if we won the cup again crowds would go down to 8000?

First of all I agree that there is a decent chance if we were mediocre after going up that crowds would indeed drop off ... that's pretty well been the nature of thing since time immemorial, its just how things work out sometimes.

But as for the highlighted point, I don't think winning the cup again would have anything like the affect it had this season .... the circumstances were entirely different from just about any cup win by any team in the last 30 years or more. Where was that affect for ICT or St Johnstone after winning the cup?, if anything their crowds got worse and they are still in the premiership ..... that is the normal affect after winning the cup, not the huge benefit we had.

If you think the bulk of the extra 3,500 folk who signed up for season tickets for this season on the back of the cup euphoria will be inclined to sign up for another season watching us huff and puff against Dumbarton, Raith Rovers, Ayr Utd and bloody Falkirk then you are simply wrong .... if anything we will be lucky to hang on to the 7,500 who have stuck with the club since we were relegated ..... for us it will be a 4th season of watching Hibs play the aforementioned teams and a fair number will take a 'sod this' I'm not paying another £300 quid to suffer another season of that pish attitude.

I would stake my life on that and I would bet dollars to donuts STF, Rod Petrie and Leeann Dempster would as well.

[houstonhibbee]

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Decent post. One small thing tho. When we return to being a mid table top flight club not challenging or apable of really winning anything we will. E back to sub 10k crowds.

Leanne won't let that happen