Today we were coasting until our captain sold the jerseys at their first goal. This was followed by Fonts going off injured which then lead to a shambolic effort, particularly at the start of the second half when we were on the ropes. At no point during this period of the game did anyone take control of what was going on. It's at times like these a captain has to step up to the plate as it were and muster the troops. Not once did David Gray shout at his team mates or cajole them or try and instil some belief. He just went about things like a total stranger, even when the chaos was unfolding around him. It's at times like this when your backs are up against the wall that you need leaders on the park, and today we had none. Time for McGregor to take over the armband methinks.
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Thread: Captains role
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26-02-2017 12:45 AM #1
Captains role
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26-02-2017 12:50 AM #3This quote is hidden because you are ignoring this member. Show Quote
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26-02-2017 01:11 AM #4
David Gray will forever be a legend but he's not a captain for me. Does nothing to motivate the team.
Ffs the young lad Crane was trying to motivate the defence more than Gray was once he came on.
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26-02-2017 01:25 AM #5This quote is hidden because you are ignoring this member. Show Quote
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26-02-2017 03:22 AM #6
Ive always said Paul Hanlon should be captain or Lewy in his absence
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26-02-2017 03:33 AM #7
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Yes don't need shout to be good captain. But organizing defense is helpful albeit easier for CH.
I love big McG but halon is my favorite defender, I just think he's class.
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26-02-2017 03:48 AM #8
David Gray would be my captain. Everyone makes mistakes, and one from him is rare. The guy's a leader. Think McGregor is a great player also, but was no better than David Gray today either.
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26-02-2017 06:40 AM #9
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Bartley was giving someone a mouthful but I couldn't work out who it was. Initially thought it was gray but could have been MacGregor or fyvie as all were in the vacinity.
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26-02-2017 06:41 AM #10
The entire back 4 were a shambles at times today...why single out David grey...they were all equally as bad once fonts went off. The blame for me lies solely with lennon tbh...why put Bartley at CH?? Ridiculous decision that massively backfired
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26-02-2017 07:56 AM #11This quote is hidden because you are ignoring this member. Show Quote
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26-02-2017 08:15 AM #12
Anybody who doubts David's Gray's ability as a Captain should watch the last twenty minutes of the Cup Final again. He leads by example and always does. One mistake last night coupled with most of his team mates having a bad game doesn't change that.
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26-02-2017 08:17 AM #13This quote is hidden because you are ignoring this member. Show Quote
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26-02-2017 09:43 AM #14This quote is hidden because you are ignoring this member. Show Quote
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He's had one bad game and we should strip him of the captaincy? Madness.
Also there's nothing stopping McGregor being a leader on the pitch, there's no rule to say only the captain can gee them up
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26-02-2017 11:02 AM #17
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He had a shocker yesterday, but it was a first from him. Any player is capable of having a rotten 90 minutes. I certainly wouldn't remove his captaincy based on one poor performance.
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26-02-2017 11:06 AM #18
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26-02-2017 11:12 AM #19
Do people still think captains (or managers) motivate players by shouting and screaming at them? Those days are gone.
David Gray made a mistake yesterday but he wears his heart on his sleeve every week and leads by example. He's been a fantastic capatain for us since before that goal in May and has continued to be afterwards. You can see how much the players respect him and that's far more important than him doing some crap Roy Keane impression trying to provoke a reaction.PM Awards General Poster of The Year 2015, 2016, 2017. Probably robbed in other years
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26-02-2017 11:44 AM #21
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This is genuinely pitiful.
Gray makes one error and suddenly he's not fit to be captain.
Nobody said that on Wednesday when he went through every tackle and played excellently.
I don't know if some people post on here what they genuinely think or just to try get a reaction.
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26-02-2017 11:55 AM #22
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David Gray leads by example, even when his own personal performance has dipped, he never hides in a game and you can see how other team mates respect him on the pitch and off it. Also communicates really well in interviews and you can hear how determined he is which reassures those of the 'bed-wetting' variety.
I would definitely consider John McGinn as captain if DG was absent though - SJM's progress since being at Hibs is fantastic and he is captain material right now. Another who leads from the front and by example - top top professional for one so young.
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26-02-2017 12:04 PM #23
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You don't need to shout at players to motivate them. But there was a complete lack of organisation last night and nobody did anything to try and address it.
As captain Gray should have done more in that regard IMO. Don't really have a problem with his mistake because those things happen and you can't really legislate for it.
I wouldn't single him out for it. I thought McGregor and Stevenson who are very experienced players should have done more as well. Nobody took any responsibility for sorting things out in the second half when were all over the place. There looked to be absolutely zero communication.
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26-02-2017 12:25 PM #25
Times like yesterday when the passing pattern has gone wrong, we miss a big guy up front (Malonga) to hold it up and knock it off. Route One if you will.
Dunfermline were able to cope with balls in the air because we lacked an aggressive fellow like that.
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26-02-2017 01:01 PM #28
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What Dom was able to do was also play the channels and allow the team to get higher up the pitch. Grant Holt was dropping deeper and central, not really offering anything and there wasn't anybody to take the ball from him hence we lost possession easily. Dunfermline exploited the left throughout the second half and for me, they identified how poor Shinnie is defensively. Time and time again Shinnie left too much time and space for Higginbotham, didn't get tight, and when he did was very soft in the tackle. I totally agree, someone like Malonga playing on that flank second half would have held ball better, higher up the pitch, and been more offensive. Shinnie had an absolute mare yesterday (for me).
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26-02-2017 01:01 PM #29
I thought David looked tired yesterday, he was walking flat-footed with his head down a lot of the time.
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26-02-2017 01:22 PM #30
David Gray made a defensive error then two minutes later the ball hits off his chest a yard from their goal. He wasn't hiding and he was end to end during most of the game. He was right up there when Boyle could have laid it back for him but got dispossessed instead. The referee and his persistent decisions against us knocked the momentum out of our team then Dunfermline played very well to take control and we struggled to stop them. It was John Beaton and Dunfermline's good players who deserve credit for turning that game and not just a rare mistake by our captain (perhaps due to a bad bounce).
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