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    Quote Originally Posted by Hibs Class View Post
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    Gerald Kaufman has died, so another by-election coming up.
    In name only. Kaufman's majority was colossal.

    There won't really be much to learn either, because although Labour's share might reduce, it'll be put down to Kaufman being personally popular and the new candidate won't have that benefit.

    The interesting thing for me will be who gets the nomination.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Hibbyradge View Post
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    In name only. Kaufman's majority was colossal.

    There won't really be much to learn either, because although Labour's share might reduce, it'll be put down to Kaufman being personally popular and the new candidate won't have that benefit.

    The interesting thing for me will be who gets the nomination.
    Getting your excuses for another Corbyn victory in early?

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    Quote Originally Posted by hibsbollah View Post
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    Getting your excuses for another Corbyn victory in early?
    Seriously? I thought you better than that.

    Kaufmen had 67% of the votes. 28000 to the Greens in second with 4000.

    Even the remorselessly incompetent Corbyn couldn't screw that up.

    Or do you think there's a chance he could?
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    https://labourlist.org/2017/03/counc...conservatives/

    Some people blaming anti-Semitism for another loss to the Tories, at least in part.
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    Labour council approved planning application to build a new Stadium for Neville's Salford City for 5,000 fans in Kersal. And the locals weren't happy.

    They put up an anti stadium independent candidate

    http://salfordstar.com/article.asp?id=3655
    Looking at previous results for Kersal, Tory candidate Arnold Saunders who won last night is a local rabbi who stood for the ward in 2015 and 2016.

    According to the Manchester Evening News report of the planning application for the Salford City FC stadium, 41% of ward identify as Jewish

    http://www.manchestereveningnews.co....plans-12324570

    The Jewish community in Kersal were concerned that thousands of football supporters walking past their homes would disrupt their Sabbath.

    So you have an independent candidate standing against Labour on the planning decision and a Tory rabbi also against it.

    The Tory candidate also has a high profile standing up to anti-semitism

    https://www.google.co.uk/amp/www.man...ed-8100672.amp

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    Quote Originally Posted by lucky View Post
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    Labour council approved planning application to build a new Stadium for Neville's Salford City for 5,000 fans in Kersal. And the locals weren't happy.

    They put up an anti stadium independent candidate

    http://salfordstar.com/article.asp?id=3655
    Looking at previous results for Kersal, Tory candidate Arnold Saunders who won last night is a local rabbi who stood for the ward in 2015 and 2016.

    According to the Manchester Evening News report of the planning application for the Salford City FC stadium, 41% of ward identify as Jewish

    http://www.manchestereveningnews.co....plans-12324570

    The Jewish community in Kersal were concerned that thousands of football supporters walking past their homes would disrupt their Sabbath.

    So you have an independent candidate standing against Labour on the planning decision and a Tory rabbi also against it.

    The Tory candidate also has a high profile standing up to anti-semitism

    https://www.google.co.uk/amp/www.man...ed-8100672.amp
    Yes, as is almost always the case, there are various reasons when an encumbent party loses its seat.

    But, of course, it's never anything to do with Jeremy Corbyn.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Hibbyradge View Post
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    Yes, as is almost always the case, there are various reasons when an encumbent party loses its seat.

    But, of course, it's never anything to do with Jeremy Corbyn.
    I doubt a council bye election has anything to do with party leaders. Corbyn is in a no win situation if Labour wins seats it's not because of him but if they lose it's his fault. If Corbyn was to step down then who becomes leader?

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    I'm just waiting for Cat Smith to come along and tell us that because Labour are now 19 points behind the Tories nationally, to only lose 14.8% of your share of the vote, after the worst budget statement in decades, is an incredible achievement.

    Waltham Cross (Broxbourne) result:

    CON: 41.0% (-3.5)
    LAB: 40.8% (-14.8)
    UKIP: 12.6% (+12.6)
    LDEM: 5.6% (+5.6)

    I know, I know, local factors . . .
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