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    If these two lunatics go at it and our government "lend their support" to the Americans, there will be riots in this country.


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    Quote Originally Posted by hibsbollah View Post
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    No one really wants war. I think.
    Steve Banning does. He believes in the "Fourth Turning", a theory that every 80 years or so, there needs to be an apocalyptic event. Check out some of the articles about it.

    He also said that America at war in the South China Sea was inevitable.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Hibbyradge View Post
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    Steve Banning does. He believes in the "Fourth Turning", a theory that every 80 years or so, there needs to be an apocalyptic event. Check out some of the articles about it.

    He also said that America at war in the South China Sea was inevitable.
    Whilst the science behind the Fourth Turning theory can never be 100% the psychology behind it is sound. I don't think the authors were trying to condone major conflict, rather explain the ever recurring inevitably of it all.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Hibrandenburg View Post
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    Whilst the science behind the Fourth Turning theory can never be 100% the psychology behind it is sound.
    Not everyone would agree.

    http://www.politico.com/magazine/sto...-theory-215053
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    So now he's threatening to disband the government to stop them getting in the way

    http://www.bbc.co.uk/news/world-us-canada-41020779
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    Quote Originally Posted by Just Alf View Post
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    So now he's threatening to disband the government to stop them getting in the way

    http://www.bbc.co.uk/news/world-us-canada-41020779
    All he needs is a strange fire in the Capitol and some kind of left leaning patsy to pin it on and he can do that on the back of national emergency.

    Now where I have I heard of something like that before.

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    So now he's threatening to disband the government to stop them getting in the way

    http://www.bbc.co.uk/news/world-us-canada-41020779
    What's wrong with this guy? There is no chance for it. No matter what kind of lunatic it is - people won't let such thing to happen.

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    North Korea have just detonated a 100KT hydrogen bomb, resulting in a 6.3 magnitude earthquake...

    Be interesting to see how Trump, China and Japan respond to this.

    I doubt more talks/sanctions will be an option this time around - the bomb was 5x the size of the one that levelled Nagasaki.
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    I'm confused as to what the North Koreans are trying to achieve. This can only end one way for them surely?

    The heated rhetoric about attacking Guam, the missile fired over Japan and now this. Do they believe they can win (or more accurately not be the only loser in a war)? Given Beijings apparent cooling attitude towards them it looks like they would be going up against South Korea, Japan, the US and other NATO countries in isolation.

    With Donald Trump in the other corner the whole situatiom makes me somewhat nervous. Two megalomaniacs facing each other down with nuclear warheads as the weapon of choice. That can't end well.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Pretty Boy View Post
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    I'm confused as to what the North Koreans are trying to achieve. This can only end one way for them surely?

    The heated rhetoric about attacking Guam, the missile fired over Japan and now this. Do they believe they can win (or more accurately not be the only loser in a war)? Given Beijings apparent cooling attitude towards them it looks like they would be going up against South Korea, Japan, the US and other NATO countries in isolation.

    With Donald Trump in the other corner the whole situatiom makes me somewhat nervous. Two megalomaniacs facing each other down with nuclear warheads as the weapon of choice. That can't end well.
    I've often asked myself that and tried looking at it from their point of view.

    Maybe all they're doing is trying to reassure their people, and themselves that they can at least bargain with all these other countries who have nuclear warheads pointing in their direction...countries who are backed by an imperialist power who thinks it's the policeman of the world and has a habit of meddling in the affairs of countries who don't do things the way they like.


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    Quote Originally Posted by Pete View Post
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    I've often asked myself that and tried looking at it from their point of view.

    Maybe all they're doing is trying to reassure their people, and themselves that they can at least bargain with all these other countries who have nuclear warheads pointing in their direction...countries who are backed by an imperialist power who thinks it's the policeman of the world and has a habit of meddling in the affairs of countries who don't do things the way they like.

    After all its been proved that aggressive invasion, bombing of civilians, and backing 'moderate' terrorists has brought peace and prosperity across the Middle East.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Pretty Boy View Post
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    I'm confused as to what the North Koreans are trying to achieve. This can only end one way for them surely?

    The heated rhetoric about attacking Guam, the missile fired over Japan and now this. Do they believe they can win (or more accurately not be the only loser in a war)? Given Beijings apparent cooling attitude towards them it looks like they would be going up against South Korea, Japan, the US and other NATO countries in isolation.

    With Donald Trump in the other corner the whole situatiom makes me somewhat nervous. Two megalomaniacs facing each other down with nuclear warheads as the weapon of choice. That can't end well.
    I think you've nailed the answer yourself with the bit in bold. It's hubris coupled with face-saving, rather than rational policy. They believe their self-promoting, self-penned narrative to the extent that no other truth is apparent.

    It's like an enactment of the legend of King Canute, basically.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Pretty Boy View Post
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    I'm confused as to what the North Koreans are trying to achieve. This can only end one way for them surely?

    The heated rhetoric about attacking Guam, the missile fired over Japan and now this. Do they believe they can win (or more accurately not be the only loser in a war)? Given Beijings apparent cooling attitude towards them it looks like they would be going up against South Korea, Japan, the US and other NATO countries in isolation.

    With Donald Trump in the other corner the whole situatiom makes me somewhat nervous. Two megalomaniacs facing each other down with nuclear warheads as the weapon of choice. That can't end well.
    It's not about North Korea trying to achieve anything: they can't "win" any war. I think, it's simply about Kim saying don't mess with North Korea and do not try to remove me from power, as in Libya, Iraq etc? He's basically trying to hold onto power - there is method in his "madness".
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    Quote Originally Posted by Pete View Post
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    I've often asked myself that and tried looking at it from their point of view.

    Maybe all they're doing is trying to reassure their people, and themselves that they can at least bargain with all these other countries who have nuclear warheads pointing in their direction...countries who are backed by an imperialist power who thinks it's the policeman of the world and has a habit of meddling in the affairs of countries who don't do things the way they like.

    I think you're close. The North Korean leader might look stupid but he's not. You don't have to look that far back in time to see what happens to rogue nations who have tried pacifying the US by playing along with their disarmament demands. The government are well aware that they're on the hit list with or without nukes so they might as well try and obtain the best nukes that they can.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Pretty Boy View Post
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    I'm confused as to what the North Koreans are trying to achieve. This can only end one way for them surely?

    The heated rhetoric about attacking Guam, the missile fired over Japan and now this. Do they believe they can win (or more accurately not be the only loser in a war)? Given Beijings apparent cooling attitude towards them it looks like they would be going up against South Korea, Japan, the US and other NATO countries in isolation.

    With Donald Trump in the other corner the whole situatiom makes me somewhat nervous. Two megalomaniacs facing each other down with nuclear warheads as the weapon of choice. That can't end well.
    The North Koreans motivation isn't discussed often enough. They want to retain their Stalinist dictatorship of power. They know the US dont want North Korea to continue as a Stalinist dictatorship. A peace treaty has never been signed since the end of the Korean war. They are surrounded by 4 hostile powers who are all armed to the teeth with nuclear weapons. The UN has imposed the toughest sanctions possible which is making the country poorer by the day. The US and the South are carrying out military ops right on the border, dropping propaganda leaflets from the air and blasting audio across the DMZ, and exercises simulating a decapitation strategy (taking out the NK leadership and hoping the regime collapses without a figurehead). There are reports of a poor harvest and the peasants are back to eating grass. Showing they have military power is all they have left for their domestic and their international audience. Its fairly rational on their part.

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    After Cuba and Venezuela respond to this cretins speech, The Iranian president gives the leader of the "free world" a dressing down.

    He's some nerve calling Kim Jong Un a "rocket man".

    This is the man who is basically saying "We don't like the way you live. Embrace democracy (oligarchy) or we'll bully you either economically or with big rockets".

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