Just because he "let us down" it seems many on here would not take him back , if he returned and made the difference between staying in this league or promotion you would rather we stayed down ! I suppose you would not have Scot Brown back as he did the same or Griffiths as he never saw his contract out with Wolves and signed for us for nowt ! I would take the devil himself if it guaranteed that we got out of this crappy league.
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12-01-2017 04:06 PM #151
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12-01-2017 04:22 PM #152
Its not the fact that he lets us down that would prevent me having him back.
I just feel that he completely over performed in his season here and nothing before or after has suggested he is capable of reaching let alone sustaining those heights again.
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12-01-2017 04:28 PM #153
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If you're not in the "he's got a ***** attitude" or "he stabbed us in the back" camp; I'm surprised to read there's another reason to doubt what an effective player he'd be.
I don't for a second think he's coming back here, by the way. Only responding to the hypothetical conversation 👍🏻
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12-01-2017 05:18 PM #154This quote is hidden because you are ignoring this member. Show Quote
I don't expect loyalty from footballers anymore. But SA simply hasn't done anything since he left us.
Maybe he just hates being at Celtc, but he did nowt at Rotherham either.
Meanwhile our midfield has improved. At the moment I don't think he'd deserve a starting place and I don't think he'd be a good addition to the squad. The 'spirit within the camp', as they say, looks good right now. Why risk it?
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12-01-2017 05:35 PM #155This quote is hidden because you are ignoring this member. Show Quote
He is an exceptional footballer.
However, his motivation/professionalism can be questioned - no doubt - but he did nit over perform .. what he gave is what he is capable of.
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12-01-2017 05:46 PM #156This quote is hidden because you are ignoring this member. Show Quote
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12-01-2017 05:51 PM #157This quote is hidden because you are ignoring this member. Show Quote
As you rightly state his motivation / professionalism should be questioned.
His ability, character and numerous other factors determine his ongoing capabilities or lack thereof
Probably poorly expressed on my part but what I was alluding to was that IMO he delivered far more here than he has consistently before or for that matter is ever likely to do again.
I wouldn't want us to take on that baggage or risk and for all that purple patch he had, we were never promoted or won the cup.
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12-01-2017 06:07 PM #158This quote is hidden because you are ignoring this member. Show Quote
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12-01-2017 08:07 PM #159
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12-01-2017 08:10 PM #160
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Hope he rots in their reserves and ends up playing junior football
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12-01-2017 08:10 PM #161
We have a settled squad and the guy is a Grade A knob. Don't think he'd be a good dressing room influence at a time when we need everyone pulling together in the same direction.
Quality player but no thanks.
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12-01-2017 08:30 PM #162
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12-01-2017 08:38 PM #163
So you have a wife who on her day is a fantastic ride, not a bad cook and pretty good looking. After a year of this she then makes advances to your best mate, starts to be a moody bitch and basically upsets the rest of your family. You then get rid of her for a better model that also comes along with a huge wedge of cash and you have a great time. The old wife then has a string of disastrous relationships where she is well known to have a real attitude problem that no amount of counselling can help. She then may become available again. Do you take her back because she might still be great in bed but will probably still come with all of the problems from before? I certainly wouldn't
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I always use the example of Ross Caldwell when it comes to this. Obviously Caldwell was absolutely nowhere near the talent level of Scott Allan but nevertheless his career still spiralled down the toilet and I really believe that had a lot to do with his attitude. Good young talent who I believe could have and should have achieved a lot more but after his goal at tynecastle he seemed to think that was it, that he had made it and that he desereved a starting place in the team every week. He tweeted later on down the line a picture of him scoring with the caption "throwback to when I gave a ****". Pretty much says it all. I mean who knows maybe he simply just was never going to make it and would have still ended up on the scrapheap but for me I just sensed a huffy attitude that ultimately led to him not living up to the early expectation. Often the problem with some young players the moment they get themselves a bit of glory or positive headlines, starts going to their head and they suddenly think their the next Messi.Last edited by 21.05.2016; 12-01-2017 at 08:49 PM.
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12-01-2017 08:53 PM #165
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12-01-2017 08:56 PM #166
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Stubbs is the only person to get a run of game out of him. He has a medical issue which means he has to be super careful in his diet to ensure he can see out multiple games. Hibs were strict on that. Without having that support group he has massively struggled.
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12-01-2017 09:09 PM #168
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12-01-2017 09:15 PM #170
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No. But I don't want to **** Scott Allan. I just think he's a very gifted footballer.
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12-01-2017 09:24 PM #171
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For the majority (including me) it's got nothing to do with bitterness.
Just don't fancy him as a player anymore. He's not the first and won't be the last highly talented player to fail because of questionable attitude.
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13-01-2017 09:18 AM #174
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13-01-2017 09:23 AM #175
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He was only one year into a contract, it was the first year he had any sort of run of games, he knew the level of competition between us and Rangers at that point and the pay back for getting his career on track was to try and put our club at risk.
I'm always happy for players to be ambitious but it wouldn't have hurt to buckle down and do what he wanted the next year. It's not as if he had been held here a long time and it was time to go. He was basically just in the door and decided to go again.
No danger he should be back here at any stage, he had the chance to play here and make a real career for himself and he decided that wasn't for him.
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13-01-2017 09:32 AM #176
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It would seem that some on here would rather that we toiled to win this league rather than take back a player who might just guarantee we won it, utterly bizarre !
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13-01-2017 09:47 AM #178
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He was brill for us, he ain't coming back to er, time to move on
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13-01-2017 09:49 AM #179This quote is hidden because you are ignoring this member. Show Quote
" I spent some of the happiest days of my football playing life at Easter Road" - Sir Matt Busby
"I did not need any persuasion to play for such a great club, the Hibs result is still one of the first I look for"
Sir Matt Busby
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13-01-2017 09:54 AM #180
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