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    Scotty Allan

    Seen Scott Allan has been punted back to Celtic after another underwhelming year. What is wrong with this guy?? On his day with us he was unplayable - one of the brightest talents in Scotland. Even when he did (rarely) play for Celtic he seemed to do okay. Where will he end up next?? Something tells me he could end up at Hearts.

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    He should have stayed with Hibs, picked up a Scottish cup medal and moved south for big money through the summer.

    Let him rot.

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    I'd take him back, the lad is different class.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Hermit Crab View Post
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    I'd take him back, the lad is different class.
    This.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Hermit Crab View Post
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    I'd take him back, the lad is different class.
    I absolutely would not. He's done zero since leaving to convince me he'd improve our team.

    Would much rather sign Henderson instead, even if we have to wait until summer.

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    He's a quality player but a grade A "Clem Fandango".

    I reckon he's about the most gifted Scottish player around at the moment and should be a regular in the national side as well as playing for a top club.

    Unfortunately he doesn't know what is good for him and will make poor career decision after poor career decision.

    It's a real shame as I've probably enjoyed watching an on-form Scott Allan play as much as I've enjoyed watching any player play.

    I'm not sure he'd be Lennon's cup of tea, but there's a bit of me that would always want to see us take a punt on him.

    Hopefully he finds a manager who will do as much for him as Stubbs did, and if he's lucky enough to get that chance that he repays that with what he's capable of repaying it with.

    In my heart of hearts, I see him squeezing as much cash out of Celtic as he can over the period of his contract there without remotely troubling the first team, before stumbling on a downwards trajectory through the English and Scottish leagues whilst making some bizarre stop-offs on whichever country has more money than sense and sees fit to offer him a decent contract once he's clearly not capable of making a sporting contribution any more.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Hermit Crab View Post
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    I'd take him back, the lad is different class.
    Hes not proved it since leaving Hibs tbh

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    Quote Originally Posted by Hermit Crab View Post
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    I'd take him back, the lad is different class.
    He won't come back until his agent can confirm that the benches have been thoroughly sanded and varnished.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Hermit Crab View Post
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    I'd take him back, the lad is different class.
    I find this difficult to square with your apparent loathing and constant denigration of Jason Cummings.

    Of the two there is absolutely no doubt in my mind as is to who is more deserving of our support.

    I find the Scott Allan love in a bit strange in general terms.

    His history points to him being nothing but trouble for the majority of his career.

    Rather than viewing his troubles before and after Hibs as the aberration, it would probably be more representative to view his time at Hibs as the aberration from the norm.

    On that basis I wouldn't have him back

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    I find this difficult to square with your apparent loathing and constant denigration of Jason Cummings.

    Of the two there is absolutely no doubt in my mind as is to who is more deserving of our support.

    I find the Scott Allan love in a bit strange in general terms.

    His history points to him being nothing but trouble for the majority of his career.

    Rather than viewing his troubles before and after Hibs as the aberration, it would probably be more representative to view his time at Hibs as the aberration from the norm.

    On that basis I wouldn't have him back
    Do you know of any trouble he's caused at Celtic or perhaps just not good enough, burned his bridges with us, knew it after the diddy cup game and went for more money as we wouldn't sell to newhun? God knows what is wrong with Scott Allen but he's got a bit of a Hartley thing going on about him and when it clicks at the right club they will benefit big time if he screws the but. (Hartley was a cocky prick at us too)

    Off topic but imagine in some kind of disturbed universe Allan having the game of his life beside his pal "****ed it up" Halliday and us losing the final. No henderson there to deliver, no Stokes on 🔥. Thank god our board and Leanne Dempster held firm and told they ********s to bolt.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Hermit Crab View Post
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    I'd take him back, the lad is different class.
    Me too, in a heart beat.

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    I don't like Scott Allan, but I don't hate him as much as some people seem to. Hibs did pretty well out of his "betrayal" - £300k, Dylan McGeouch and Liam Henderson on loan for a season. If he'd left us completely high and dry, I'd have a lot more animosity towards him.

    I think Scott Allan was great at Hibs, but I don't think he was quite as great as some people remember him. He was certainly a fantastic player to have in the big games with his spark of creativity - particularly that 4-0 against Rangers.

    Overall, I'd say that if Lennon's thinking of going after Scott Allan, he'd be better holding off until the summer. Hopefully we'll have Premiership football back at Easter Road and if Scott Allan wants to use Hibs as a stepping stone, he's welcome to it if he can produce a similar season at the top flight level as he did last time. Personally wouldn't let my personal dislike of Allan get in the way of success on the field for Hibs, and a player of his quality would surely help us out.

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    No thanks. He's wasted his talent.

    We got Dylan and Hendo as part of the deal and what a contribution they made.

    I'd go as far as saying, if we had Allan on the corners at Hampden, it would have been a half arsed attempt to cross into the box and fail to beat first man.

    He can rot.

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    He should have stayed with Hibs, picked up a Scottish cup medal and moved south for big money through the summer.

    Let him rot.
    This.

    Simply never should be allowed to enter ER ever again. He embarrassed the club with his antics of throwing the toys out of the pram unless he got his move away from us.

    Glory Glory

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    This.

    Simply never should be allowed to enter ER ever again. He embarrassed the club with his antics of throwing the toys out of the pram unless he got his move away from us.

    Glory Glory
    By doing what exactly? Handing in a transfer request because he was apparently told we wouldn't step in his way if a bigger club came in for him and that was the condition he signed in the first place? He couldn't have been that much a problem for Stubbs to take him again. He didn't like Rotherham, who would? Saying that I can't see us signing him again, he will go to the likes of Dundee on loan, be brilliant and stall again going back to Celtic before eventually signing for a club on a perm then ultimately moving to rangers.

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    By doing what exactly? Handing in a transfer request because he was apparently told we wouldn't step in his way if a bigger club came in for him and that was the condition he signed in the first place? He couldn't have been that much a problem for Stubbs to take him again. He didn't like Rotherham, who would? Saying that I can't see us signing him again, he will go to the likes of Dundee on loan, be brilliant and stall again going back to Celtic before eventually signing for a club on a perm then ultimately moving to rangers.
    Just proves how unprofessional he is. Didn't want to stay and prove himself at Rotherham because he didn't like it there ah diddums. Hope he rots. He was all set to sign for our rivals through the Daily Ranger. He's a footballing embarrassment the way he uses football clubs without a backward glance.

    Glory Glory

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    Quote Originally Posted by Jones28 View Post
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    He should have stayed with Hibs, picked up a Scottish cup medal and moved south for big money through the summer.

    Let him rot.
    The world doesn't work like that. If he'd stayed at Hibs we might not have won the cup, and we categorically would not have won it in the manner in which we did. It was perfect in every way.

    Wee 'Scotty' Allan can rot
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    The world doesn't work like that. If he'd stayed at Hibs we might not have won the cup, and we categorically would not have won it in the manner in which we did. It was perfect in every way.

    Wee 'Scotty' Allan can rot
    The papers would've had a field day in the run up to the final. Probably with some photoshopped pictures of SA on the Sevco cup winners bus the day before the match.

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    Quote Originally Posted by high bee View Post
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    The papers would've had a field day in the run up to the final. Probably with some photoshopped pictures of SA on the Sevco cup winners bus the day before the match.
    Hibs might not have even been playing in the final nevermind playing Rangers, had Allan still been at the club we could've been pumped out first round.
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    Is there still a rule that prevents someone playing for more than 2 teams in one season?

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    Quote Originally Posted by Tom Hart RIP View Post
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    Is there still a rule that prevents someone playing for more than 2 teams in one season?
    I believe that it is now 3 teams.

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    Everyone always talks about his attitude problem blah blah..

    Is there any actual evidence of him having a poor attitude?

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    Everyone always talks about his attitude problem blah blah..

    Is there any actual evidence of him having a poor attitude?
    Stubbs was quoted in the paper while at Rotherham basically saying he wasn't trying a leg.

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    We've got McGinn.

    End of.

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    Quote Originally Posted by ancient hibee View Post
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    Stubbs was quoted in the paper while at Rotherham basically saying he wasn't trying a leg.
    Yep he made it clear he had dropped him as he wasnt giving his all so he clearly wasnt trying to keep himself in the first team Obviously this hasnt changed and he has been punted back He wont get a game for Veltic oether so he must know he will have to go out on loan again
    Is in danger of wasting his talent if he cant make go of next move

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    Quote Originally Posted by Unseen work View Post
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    Everyone always talks about his attitude problem blah blah..

    Is there any actual evidence of him having a poor attitude?
    Did Stubbs not refer to his attitude problems while at Rotherham or have I invented that?

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    Such a waste.

    Look at John McGinn - three years younger and less natural talent but already he's played about twice as many first team games, with 2 Scotland caps to boot. Scott Allan should ask himself why that is the case.

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    Such a waste.

    Look at John McGinn - three years younger and less natural talent but already he's played about twice as many first team games, with 2 Scotland caps to boot. Scott Allan should ask himself why that is the case.
    In a nutshell..

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    Quote Originally Posted by Unseen work View Post
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    Everyone always talks about his attitude problem blah blah..

    Is there any actual evidence of him having a poor attitude?
    We stopped his career continuing on a spiraling downwards trajectory but the second another team came sniffing he handed in his transfer request and bolted.

    Happened at Dundee Utd as well although that was with Houston so you could see why he'd want to bail.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Unseen work View Post
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    Everyone always talks about his attitude problem blah blah..

    Is there any actual evidence of him having a poor attitude?
    Over and above Stubbs' comments about his time at Rotherham.......

    The low number of first team games he's played in a career that started so promisingly, so early and with so much talent.

    The atmosphere surrounding his departure from nearly every club he's been at.

    His conduct during the fiasco when he tried to manufacture his move to Sevco.

    His consistent poor performance and lack of impact when on loan at a number of clubs throughout his career.

    His obvious dislike of tracking back and doing any sort of defending - most midfielders have to do some.

    His quickness to want to bail on a manager who seemed to understand him and who built a team to compensate for his defensive frailties.

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