Commons - any update?

[Dr Jimmy]

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It must be tough dropping from £18k down to £10k nevermind £2k. Football players have a short window for earning by playing.

Never understand when agents and players say they only have a short career so they need to earn as much as possible. They are not barred from working after football.

[snooky]

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Never understand when agents and players say they only have a short career so they need to earn as much as possible. They are not barred from working after football.

Plus if you play for the OF you get a shoe-in to chat on all BBC & ITV fitbaw progs + get your pockets lined to boot .... and no education required.

[Allant1981]

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Never understand when agents and players say they only have a short career so they need to earn as much as possible. They are not barred from working after football.

exactly, and even if he does sign for us on 2k a week thats a hundred grand a year, not to be sniffed at

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United now heavily interested in Commons.

Got a sell on % with Robertson so if his deal goes through it could free up quite a bit of money for them.

Apologies if already been mentioned.

[GreenLake]

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Never understand when agents and players say they only have a short career so they need to earn as much as possible. They are not barred from working after football.

It isn't easy for an ex-football player to find a different job paying £2k a week never mind £18k.

[Jim44]

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Tam McManus tweeting 'Dundee United very interested in Kris Commons along with a host of Premiership clubs but again wages a huge stumbling block. Can't afford him'

Then responded to someone who tweeted that with Dundee United due to get in a million from Andrew Robertson's transfer there could be something in it by saying 'That's why I think they are in for him could put some of that towards his wages in a loan deal? Again can't see him leaving Celtic though.'

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I've come to the conclusion that Tam McManus talks pish.

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Can't see Commons doing that to Lennon but I suppose you can never say never

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What is there for Commons at Celtic at this stage in his career? His whole demeanour before he returned to Celtic suggested he was happy at ER, so I'm slightly bemused that Dundee United have entered the scenario. Hibs or Dundee United? The amount of cash each might contribute to his wages is irrelevant to him but might be to Celtic but at the end of the day it's up to him. I've got to say that if he ends up at Tannadice, I'll be disappointed in the guy.

[snooky]

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It isn't easy for an ex-football player to find a different job paying £2k a week never mind £18k.

In the old days retired players used their high profile by either taking over pubs or getting hired as a salesman.
Not fantastic money I grant you but hey, probably a lot more than the poor punters were on who coughed up every week to cover the said player's wages.

[Heisenberg]

Commons wouldn't go to United. Wouldn't do that to Lennon.

[ancient hibee]

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What is there for Commons at Celtic at this stage in his career? His whole demeanour before he returned to Celtic suggested he was happy at ER, so I'm slightly bemused that Dundee United have entered the scenario. Hibs or Dundee United? The amount of cash each might contribute to his wages is irrelevant to him but might be to Celtic but at the end of the day it's up to him. I've got to say that if he ends up at Tannadice, I'll be disappointed in the guy.

Why? He owes Hibs nothing. He'll naturally take what's the best deal for him.

[Peevemor]

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In the old days retired players used their high profile by either taking over pubs or getting hired as a salesman.
Not fantastic money I grant you but hey, probably a lot more than the poor punters were on who coughed up every week to cover the said player's wages.

Except now the pub industry is screwed and there are far less sales jobs. On the other hand, players (even at the likes of Hibs) are better paid than 25± years ago.

[Jim44]

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Why? He owes Hibs nothing. He'll naturally take what's the best deal for him.

But in terms of his wages, no matter what club he goes to, he won't get more than his present Celtic wage. What are the elements of the better deal you refer to? Are you thinking, for example, of a new contract next season or a coaching post, maybe?

[snooky]

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Except now the pub industry is screwed and there are far less sales jobs. On the other hand, players (even at the likes of Hibs) are better paid than 25± years ago.

I agree Peevemor. The money that even the average players get these days should allow them to set themselves up with a mortgage-free home and a decent bank account by the time the quit playing.
That's a much better start than your average Joe gets.

[HoboHarry]

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Never understand when agents and players say they only have a short career so they need to earn as much as possible. They are not barred from working after football.

No one said they were but that's not really the point. They only have a short time to earn the big money which will allow them and their families to live in comfort for the rest of their lives and any player with a modicum of intellect should be aiming for that. I certainly would have done had I been given the opportunity.......

[ancient hibee]

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But in terms of his wages, no matter what club he goes to, he won't get more than his present Celtic wage. What are the elements of the better deal you refer to? Are you thinking, for example, of a new contract next season or a coaching post, maybe?

I'm purely commenting on your being disappointed in him f he goes to DU and saying that if it's a better deal he'll accept it and rightly so.

[Brightside]

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I agree Peevemor. The money that even the average players get these days should allow them to set themselves up with a mortgage-free home and a decent bank account by the time the quit playing.
That's a much better start than your average Joe gets.

Pay off a mortgage as an average player in scotland? You'd probably still be living at your mum and dads!

[givescotlandfreedom]

The stadium lights are on which isn't normally the case. New signing being paraded or utter guff.

[Jim44]

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I'm purely commenting on your being disappointed in him f he goes to DU and saying that if it's a better deal he'll accept it and rightly so.

I understand and agree with you about him going elsewhere if he can get a better deal. But my point is that in terms of his wages, he will only get what his contract with Celtic is. I'm saying that I would be disappointed in him because I don't think that any deal 'add-ons' from us or D Utd would be significantly different. He's got good connections with us, we're in a better place than them and I can't see the attraction for him to in going to Tannadice. That being the case, I would be disappointed if he chose them.

[scoopyboy]

He will either stay at Celtic until his contract runs out or come to Hibs.

It could well go right to the wire.

If Celtic/Commons can't agree a severance package then it will come down to if we can agree a loan fee with Celtic.

Trouble is if it gets too close to the deadline do Hibs turn their attention elsewhere?

[21.05.2016]

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Never understand when agents and players say they only have a short career so they need to earn as much as possible. They are not barred from working after football.

Exactly, they might not being getting the same money as playing but there is still plenty for them to do, coaching, management, punditry gig, journalism etc. and thats just if they want to stay involved in football, nothing to keep them from getting a "normal job" to pay their bills.

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United now heavily interested in Commons.

Got a sell on % with Robertson so if his deal goes through it could free up quite a bit of money for them.

Apologies if already been mentioned.

I would be very surprised if Commons chose United over hibs tbh. We have a far better team to play in, favourites to win the league, better stadium and training facilities and he has ties with Lennon.

[Eyrie]

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It isn't easy for an ex-football player to find a different job paying £2k a week never mind £18k.

That's called the real world.

I always laugh when they talk about footballers being on "only £2k" or whatever, when most of us will be on a third of that at best.

[J-C]

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Never understand when agents and players say they only have a short career so they need to earn as much as possible. They are not barred from working after football.

They can't all go into coaching/management or tv puditry.

[21.05.2016]

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That's called the real world.

I always laugh when they talk about footballers being on "only £2k" or whatever, when most of us will be on a third of that at best.

Exactly. Bless the poor wee lambs only being on £100k+ a year, it's a tough life

[Thecat23]

Roll on tomorrow, busy day for Mr Lennon!!!! One player heading to Hibs from down south.

[AlbertK86]

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Roll on tomorrow, busy day for Mr Lennon!!!! One player heading to Hibs from down south.

Tease !!!

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[Thecat23]

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Tease !!!

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Haha if I knew his name I'd fire it up bud. I'll keep digging!

[snooky]

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Pay off a mortgage as an average player in scotland? You'd probably still be living at your mum and dads!

Actually underscore, I kinda am - in a way.

[Baw187]

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Exactly. Bless the poor wee lambs only being on £100k+ a year, it's a tough life

I don't disagree but when you're a guy like Commons who has been earning 9 times that then you have to be prepared for the adjustment when it comes. He seems a switched on guy so reckon he will be but many aren't quite as clever and end up bankrupt!

It's all relative.

[mjhibby]

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He will either stay at Celtic until his contract runs out or come to Hibs.

It could well go right to the wire.

If Celtic/Commons can't agree a severance package then it will come down to if we can agree a loan fee with Celtic.

Trouble is if it gets too close to the deadline do Hibs turn their attention elsewhere?

Call it a loan fee or whatever the jargon is that is all hibs and Celtic are discussing. Celtic don't need the money with the millions from the champions league so really are just playing games. That's their choice as he is their player.

[21.05.2016]

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I don't disagree but when you're a guy like Commons who has been earning 9 times that then you have to be prepared for the adjustment when it comes. He seems a switched on guy so reckon he will be but many aren't quite as clever and end up bankrupt!

It's all relative.

True, it's a big lifestyle change but nevertheless, they'll still be far better off than most. Christ i'd kill to be earning £100k+ a year lol! Your right in what your saying though, it's all relative and players in that position obviously have to learn to live a bit less lavishly than they once did and as you say, some don't adapt to that well and end up in bother. O'Conner probably a classic example of that, lived the high life during his hayday, flash cars, big houses, plenty bling etc. but after his career went tits up I think by what I hear he was keen to still hold onto that lifestyle but couldn't afford to do so anymore and ended up in trouble.

Commons however has played for celtic and seems a well spoken guy who knows the game well, i'm sure once his football playing days are over he'll manage to bag himself a punditry role or the like which may not bring in the same earning as being a player but he certainly wont be badly off.

[scoopyboy]

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Call it a loan fee or whatever the jargon is that is all hibs and Celtic are discussing. Celtic don't need the money with the millions from the champions league so really are just playing games. That's their choice as he is their player.

Celtic playing games is my take as well, no need in their position.