Do you think St Mirren are now finished? (NHC)

**where'stheslope** · 09-01-2017 06:47 PM

Looking at the Championship table St Mirren are now 7 points adrift at the bottom of the league, will they go into free fall after this season if they don't arrest their form?
As the season is already over half way through it does not look good for them.
Having moved into a new stadium and looked like they were on the up, but if I remember correctly, did Rangers not try to buy them as a way back into the Scottish League after Liquidation?
It just seems a long time ago when my dad worked in Paisley and I would go along to Wednesday night games when I was through visiting, and they had not a bad support back then around 1965.
Their fans seem to have deserted them in droves, and if they fall another division it could be one downward step to far!

**dchibs** · 09-01-2017 06:55 PM

Originally Posted by where'stheslope

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Looking at the Championship table St Mirren are now 7 points adrift at the bottom of the league, will they go into free fall after this season if they don't arrest their form?
As the season is already over half way through it does not look good for them.
Having moved into a new stadium and looked like they were on the up, but if I remember correctly, did Rangers not try to buy them as a way back into the Scottish League after Liquidation?
It just seems a long time ago when my dad worked in Paisley and I would go along to Wednesday night games when I was through visiting, and they had not a bad support back then around 1965.
Their fans seem to have deserted them in droves, and if they fall another division it could be one downward step to far!

Made a big mistake getting rid off Danny Lennon.

**inglisavhibs** · 09-01-2017 06:59 PM

Originally Posted by where'stheslope

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Looking at the Championship table St Mirren are now 7 points adrift at the bottom of the league, will they go into free fall after this season if they don't arrest their form?
As the season is already over half way through it does not look good for them.
Having moved into a new stadium and looked like they were on the up, but if I remember correctly, did Rangers not try to buy them as a way back into the Scottish League after Liquidation?
It just seems a long time ago when my dad worked in Paisley and I would go along to Wednesday night games when I was through visiting, and they had not a bad support back then around 1965.
Their fans seem to have deserted them in droves, and if they fall another division it could be one downward step to far!

May take a while but they will be back one day. Dunfermline are another club who have had a hard time but they are gradually getting back to where they should be.

***HibbyAndy*** · 09-01-2017 07:00 PM

New stadium ? When did they move away ?

***hibee_nation*** · 09-01-2017 07:09 PM

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New stadium ? When did they move away ?

Moved from Love St in 2009

**Waxy** · 09-01-2017 07:16 PM

Big mistake moving from love st. The new ground looks a bit "bottom of the championship".

**Waxy** · 09-01-2017 07:22 PM

Big mistake moving from love st. The new ground looks a bit "bottom of the championship".

**Roxyhibee** · 09-01-2017 07:22 PM

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Looking at the Championship table St Mirren are now 7 points adrift at the bottom of the league, will they go into free fall after this season if they don't arrest their form?
As the season is already over half way through it does not look good for them.
Having moved into a new stadium and looked like they were on the up, but if I remember correctly, did Rangers not try to buy them as a way back into the Scottish League after Liquidation?
It just seems a long time ago when my dad worked in Paisley and I would go along to Wednesday night games when I was through visiting, and they had not a bad support back then around 1965.
Their fans seem to have deserted them in droves, and if they fall another division it could be one downward step to far!

No. Not even remotely close. They'll go through a bad season or two or three but they'll surface again - and if much smaller clubs like Ross Co, ICT, etc can exist in the SPL, then there's no reason why they can't be back up there at some point in the future.

***hibee_nation*** · 09-01-2017 07:24 PM

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Big mistake moving from love st. The new ground looks a bit "bottom of the championship".

At least they did it the correct way to clear their debt by moving instead of the huns and yams method of stiffing everyone so fair play to them. They also had a hand in the yams great league adventure of 86 so are alright by me. 😁

**Glory Lurker** · 09-01-2017 07:28 PM

It must be hard enough for them to get youngsters to support them, being so close to Glasgow. I hope they arrest the slide, or that task will become even more difficult. Good luck to them.

***HibbyAndy*** · 09-01-2017 07:28 PM

I'd rather see St.mirren in the spl than shight like ross county ict hamilton partick st.johnstone dundee...Infact how those teams are in there and Hibs are below them seriously depresses me

***lord bunberry*** · 09-01-2017 07:29 PM

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Made a big mistake getting rid off Danny Lennon.

And replacing him with Tommy Craig. That was the beginning of the end for them. They will see a decent wedge of cash when sjm gets sold and that could be what brings them back up again.

***stantonhibby*** · 09-01-2017 07:31 PM

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And replacing him with Tommy Craig. That was the beginning of the end for them. They will see a decent wedge of cash when sjm gets sold and that could be what brings them back up again.

Indeed.....You would think that any manager winning a cup for them would have been given more leeway.

**HUTCHYHIBBY** · 09-01-2017 07:31 PM

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At least they did it the correct way to clear their debt by moving instead of the huns and yams method of stiffing everyone so fair play to them. They also had a hand in the yams great league adventure of 86 so are alright by me. 😁

That 5-1 probably did them more harm than the one that was meant to finish us as a club.

**Sammy7nil** · 09-01-2017 07:34 PM

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No. Not even remotely close. They'll go through a bad season or two or three but they'll surface again - and if much smaller clubs like Ross Co, ICT, etc can exist in the SPL, then there's no reason why they can't be back up there at some point in the future.

It will be a very very long time before they return to the top league if they ever do. Their best chance is league reconstruction. I really fear for the few fans they have left.

***Bristolhibby*** · 09-01-2017 07:36 PM

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I'd rather see St.mirren in the spl than shight like ross county ict hamilton partick st.johnstone dundee...Infact how those teams are in there and Hibs are below them seriously depresses me

Quite frankly it's the one up, one down. With a playoff system stacked against changing the SPL.

Turkeys for Christmas. Two up, two down for me.

J

**MWHIBBIES** · 09-01-2017 07:40 PM

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It will be a very very long time before they return to the top league if they ever do. Their best chance is league reconstruction. I really fear for the few fans they have left.

They are one good appointment away from being just fine.

**Andy74** · 09-01-2017 07:40 PM

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Big mistake moving from love st. The new ground looks a bit "bottom of the championship".

They won the league cup and were doing alright since moving. Ditching Lennon because they expected better was their problem.

***Diclonius*** · 09-01-2017 07:43 PM

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And replacing him with Tommy Craig. That was the beginning of the end for them. They will see a decent wedge of cash when sjm gets sold and that could be what brings them back up again.

I still don't understand the thought process of them sacking Lennon and hiring Tommy Craig. His managerial failings aside, why sack the manager and then decide his assistant is the man to take the club forward?

***Hibernia&Alba*** · 09-01-2017 07:44 PM

I hope they'll be okay. It's so difficult for clubs in that area to get support, due to the Old Firm, so I always like to see teams like St Mirren, Partick, Clyde etc get a wee break. I draw the line at Airdrie, however

***stantonhibby*** · 09-01-2017 07:45 PM

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They won the league cup and were doing alright since moving. Ditching Lennon because they expected better was their problem.

Yep....Did they not go for Ian Murray at that point who turned them down (I know he did eventually end up there) ? No plan B so gave the job to Tommy Craig.

***blackpoolhibs*** · 09-01-2017 07:46 PM

They must have money problems, my mate Bolton was talking to their last manager who's name escapes me. And he told him if he could make a marquee signing he'd pay him the princely sum of £600 a week.

The ones who are not so good get much less.

**Dashing Bob S** · 09-01-2017 07:47 PM

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At least they did it the correct way to clear their debt by moving instead of the huns and yams method of stiffing everyone so fair play to them. They also had a hand in the yams great league adventure of 86 so are alright by me. 😁

The also kept those stinking fish-scented, sister-fisting Jambo mitts off the League Cup, so I will retain a soft spot for them for all time.

***stantonhibby*** · 09-01-2017 07:47 PM

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They must have money problems, my mate Bolton was talking to their last manager who's name escapes me. And he told him if he could make a marquee signing he'd pay him the princely sum of £600 a week.

The ones who are not so good get much less.

Alex Rae?

***blackpoolhibs*** · 09-01-2017 07:49 PM

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Alex Rae?

Thats the one.

**Dashing Bob S** · 09-01-2017 07:50 PM

If you want to advertise that your club is totally ****ed, and you've completely run out of ideas as how to save it- just pick up the phone for Tommy Craig. You don't even have to waste time preparing a press release. They'll get it.

***blackpoolhibs*** · 09-01-2017 07:51 PM

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If you want to advertise that your club is totally ****ed, and you've completely run out of ideas as how to save it- just pick up the phone for Tommy Craig. You don't even have to waste time preparing a press release. They'll get it.

**Ronniekirk** · 09-01-2017 08:08 PM

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I still don't understand the thought process of them sacking Lennon and hiring Tommy Craig. His managerial failings aside, why sack the manager and then decide his assistant is the man to take the club forward?

They had ideas above thier Station
Lennon fullfilled his brief Keep them in the Top Division and blood youngsters as they have a decent youth set up in the Community
But they won the League Cup and got greedy and have got into the spiral we did hiring and firing managers but never picking the right man for the job
Unless they pull a couple of Rabbits put the January Transfer hat i isnt looking good for them at present and the 3 0 defeat to Queen of the South at home when Q of T S hadnt won for a while was a shoker

***Winston Ingram*** · 09-01-2017 08:14 PM

I'll always have a soft spot for the way they bent over in 1986 and pumping the Jambo's in the league cup.

I hope they stay up. They're a bigger club than the likes of Hamilton & Ross County