Different formation today - Martin giving chance - Cummings back in team etc
But same problems for me..we don't play with width and are persistent on this total football style which is slow and narrow (and easy to defend against).
We should have been 5-0 by half time..
2nd half we were terrible and only with Keatings and Boyle trying to make something happen did we look decent.
Dundee Utd aren't winning this league but we are throwing it away dropping silly points.
We must win the next 2 or going to be like the last 2 seasons and the gap will start to grow between top and others.
Any players brought in this January must be able to beat a player, have speed and be able to play wide right or left.
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Thread: Width - Pace - Urgency
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24-12-2016 02:54 PM #1
Width - Pace - Urgency
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24-12-2016 03:12 PM #2This quote is hidden because you are ignoring this member. Show Quote
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24-12-2016 03:23 PM #3
For 75 minutes there was a complete lack of pace or urgency in our play.simply unacceptable.
We should be cruising this league but simply don't put anywhere near enough pressure on the opposition.
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24-12-2016 03:29 PM #4This quote is hidden because you are ignoring this member. Show Quote
I have no idea what can fix this because its been years we've been watching this but it's really dire stuff to watch, if we don't get promoted again the season tickets will fall off a cliff with no cup win propping them up.
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24-12-2016 03:35 PM #5This quote is hidden because you are ignoring this member. Show Quote
We play the width of the penalty box and oppositions back 4 are rarely stretched.
Our width comes from Cummings running into areas he doesn't want to go into or Gray or Stevenson expected to beat a man and deliver - rarely happens.
How many successful dribbles today? We don't go past opposition players enough and any half decent coach can set up against us.
It's been years since we had a decent left winger.
Needs to be addressed in January and he's going to need to drop some big names to make it work.Last edited by GreenCastle; 24-12-2016 at 03:49 PM.
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24-12-2016 03:45 PM #6
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We have to sign players that will work in an overall team made to stretch and outrun the opposition upfront, playing down the middle 90% of the time is just asking for results like today.
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24-12-2016 03:53 PM #7This quote is hidden because you are ignoring this member. Show Quote
Holt was dropping to the half way line at times..
Cummings getting passes wide right (when it's obvious he wants it on his left foot).
Boyle and Keatings must start for me - movement and pace.
Cummings must start too.
For me Holt - who I thought was important drops out and we go with pace and movement up front.
But even in the middle we need more width.
So either 4-1-3-2 or 4-4-2 or 4-3-3 with a wide front 3.
4-4-2 Diamond
Narrow 4-1-2-1-2 (4-3-3) isn't going to work.
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24-12-2016 04:03 PM #8
I'd advocate playing 3 up front. Keeping 3 forward would stop teams pressing us high up the pitch and allow us more forward passing options.
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24-12-2016 04:07 PM #9
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We have got to get 3 up front with movement within them.
Standing next to a centre half is not a centre forwards job, its to pull him out of position so he is in the wrong position for the other forwards to take advantage, Keatings is really good at this!
Even if it gives the other forwards a split second more time, it can be enough and the difference between a goal or past the post!
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24-12-2016 04:11 PM #10
I said last week we need players who can score goals on the pitch.
We also need movement and trickery - we are so predictable and Holt needs to drop out and he just doesn't make the runs and I can't even remember him having a shot on goal today.
Keatings / Cummings / Boyle are all unpredictable and will run in behind.
We don't need Liam Henderson - we need wingers - even the Raith wide players looked dangerous today.
Harris and Boyle are our only wide players - both on the right. Find someone on the left and get the balance right in the team.Last edited by GreenCastle; 24-12-2016 at 04:42 PM.
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24-12-2016 04:36 PM #12
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Today wasn't long ball or hoofball - quite the opposite but it was too much football.
Trying to play like Barcelona without dribblers and creativity.
Play like that today and Falkirk and Utd will beat us.
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24-12-2016 04:49 PM #14This quote is hidden because you are ignoring this member. Show Quote
Maybe he is trying to hard or maybe its more than that? Not the same bright spark as last year.
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24-12-2016 04:56 PM #15This quote is hidden because you are ignoring this member. Show Quote
Cummings is busy...drops in...moves about and tries to link up play.
Holt - I've been a fan of but I am getting more frustrated and think he's becoming too easy to play against and not scoring enough.
Annoyingly we are at Xmas and still don't know our best strike partnership and formation.
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24-12-2016 04:58 PM #16
Hibs Players Mantra
1. Receive ball.
2. Pass to nearest player who will hold till challenged by opposition player.
3. Receive pass back from same player.
4. Look to the side and pass to player nearest.
5. Wait till player nearest is challenged by opposition player.
6. Receive ball back from said player.
7. Pass ball to first player.
8. Repeat ad nauseam.
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24-12-2016 05:05 PM #17This quote is hidden because you are ignoring this member. Show Quote
Players playing without confidence and under pressure from the crowd.
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24-12-2016 05:10 PM #18
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The main point in your post is we should have been 5 up at half time
The rest follows because we weren't
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24-12-2016 05:10 PM #19
We do try and play with width, the number of times Dylan and Shinnie were looking to play a diagonal ball through to gray or Stevenson but they were hesitant in making the run was unreal.
Second half Shinnie pretty much forced Stevenson to the byline with a pass which is what should have been happening all game.
I hate to say it but the area I would improve is left and right back for some more aggressive players. We don't need defenders to we need players that can break down the 11 players planted in front of them.
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Even at 1-0 Raith we struggled.
Better width and we could have turned that round to make it 2-1
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24-12-2016 05:32 PM #21
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24-12-2016 05:33 PM #22This quote is hidden because you are ignoring this member. Show Quote
It's not happening.
Lost count the number of times we attacked onlyusing half tenptch.
Lost count the number of times Stevenson or Gray passed inside rather than down the line as no options down the line on the ground or air.
I do agree that when these 2 attack with one we look dangerous but ideally we would have proper wide players who can do this on a consistent basis.
The top teams have attacking / fast wide players. We have a slow attack which can easily be defended !
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The number 10 who links the play - first half yes.
2nd half no and Raith adapted but we played straight passes into players who had no confidence / quality or option but to pass it backwards.
Just think how many times did we switch the play? Very rarely.
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24-12-2016 06:20 PM #25
Slow motion football, no pace no urgency very little pressing. Easy to play against. Thats why poor teams like RR are leaving ER with points.
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24-12-2016 08:38 PM #26
It amazes me the way players play when they need a goal in the last 2 mins like today. Direct - running to quick free kicks etc.
Why can't they show more urgency during the game rather than the last few mins ?
Odd.
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24-12-2016 08:47 PM #27
We would be fine if we had pace and urgency. Play the ball quicker. Not overly fussed for width. We create plenty but that extra touch (all over the park but particularly in front of goal) is killing us.
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24-12-2016 08:48 PM #28
Imo Hanlon is worst culprit. He frequently gets the ball to feet but there is no tempo set by him. Often it will be a slow, trundling ball to McGregor or Stevenson. No zip. No urgency.
Very frustrating to watch.
And he has lost yards of any pace he had due to bulking up. Again imo. I watched him chasing back last week and this. And he was miles off the pace.
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