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  1. 03-05-2019 12:20 PM #391
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    Liverpool gave him a new contract in January, in part I imagine, to prevent losing him for a fee as low as that....
    Lol @ as low as that. You are right of course ! Just mad..
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  2. 03-05-2019 12:48 PM #392
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    Quote Originally Posted by bigwheel View Post
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    Lol @ as low as that. You are right of course ! Just mad..
    Oh the ethics of these fees are another discussion no doubt about that.....
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    Personally, I don’t think he has the defensive level to at that very elite level...(Alba, Mendy of Lyon , perhaps even Digne from Everton I’d say is better ) everything else though is top class..he was outstanding the other night.

    He must be easily a 40M+ player in the current market ...
    You are joking.
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    You are joking.
    No. I’d say he is one of the top in that position in the world at the moment....
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    Quote Originally Posted by HoboHarry View Post
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    Oh the ethics of these fees are another discussion no doubt about that.....
    Ha. Truth !
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  6. 03-05-2019 03:13 PM #396
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    Quote Originally Posted by JimBHibees View Post
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    You are joking.
    Digne's good. Not quite Robertson though.
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    Good friend is a Dundee United fanatic. When they signed AR from Queens Park he ranted about them signing ******* amateurs. He said it took all of 15 minutes of his first game to Realise why they did

    And I think he played for QP against Sevco in the 3rd division. Super Ally obviously didn't rate him compared to Lee Wallace 😀
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    Quote Originally Posted by bigwheel View Post
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    No. I’d say he is one of the top in that position in the world at the moment....
    Dont see it to be honest, no where near it. Dont think he has particularly excelled at Everton in what I have seen.
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    Good friend is a Dundee United fanatic. When they signed AR from Queens Park he ranted about them signing ******* amateurs. He said it took all of 15 minutes of his first game to Realise why they did

    And I think he played for QP against Sevco in the 3rd division. Super Ally obviously didn't rate him compared to Lee Wallace 😀

    Nope. Robertson signed for Dundee Utd in summer 2013. Same time Sevco were about to begin their campaign in League 2 after just being founded.
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    Quote Originally Posted by hfc rd View Post
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    Nope. Robertson signed for Dundee Utd in summer 2013. Same time Sevco had just started their campaign in League 2.
    Sure they played in a cup match?
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    Quote Originally Posted by JimBHibees View Post
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    Dont see it to be honest, no where near it. Dont think he has particularly excelled at Everton in what I have seen.
    Ah well. Remember where you heard it first
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    Quote Originally Posted by hfc rd View Post
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    Nope. Robertson signed for Dundee Utd in summer 2013. Same time Sevco were about to begin their campaign in League 2 after just being founded.
    Was he not also a reject of the Celtic academy as a youth ?
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    Sure they played in a cup match?

    They did and the Sevco fans apparently boycotted the fixture because they were one the Premiership clubs that voted not to allow them to start in the top flight. Earn the right like every other club in Scotland to get promoted to the Scottish Premiership.

    Utd spanked them that day! 😊
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    Was he not also a reject of the Celtic academy as a youth ?

    He was, which I only just found out.

    Reason for being released was because he was “too small”. 😂 Scottish mentality right there!
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    He was, which I only just found out.

    Reason for being released was because he was “too small”. Scottish mentality right there!
    Well said ! Exactly.
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    Well said ! Exactly.

    Pathetic how that is even a factor. As I said, Scottish mentality right there.

    If the boy is a very good player and has a lot of potential but isn’t exactly tall, his height should never be a factor. It’s how he does on the park that should be all that matters.
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    Quote Originally Posted by hfc rd View Post
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    Pathetic how that is even a factor. As I said, Scottish mentality right there.

    If the boy is a very good player and has a lot of potential but isn’t exactly tall, his height should never be a factor. It’s how he does on the park that should be all that matters.
    You have to suspect that If Iniesta and xavi were Scottish they would have got emptied about 15 years old and ended up playing east of Scotland league ....

    So many talents must have been lost to our game through “too small” decisions
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    Quote Originally Posted by hfc rd View Post
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    Nope. Robertson signed for Dundee Utd in summer 2013. Same time Sevco were about to begin their campaign in League 2 after just being founded.
    Sevco started in the 3rd division in aug 2012. They did meet in the Scottish 3rd division that season .
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    You have to suspect that If Iniesta and xavi were Scottish they would have got emptied about 15 years old and ended up playing east of Scotland league ....

    So many talents must have been lost to our game through “too small” decisions


    Exactly. Lionel Messi would have had no chance here to make it if his teammates were Peter Crouch & Andy Carroll.

    Was thinking this the other day there, how many very good young players must have been released from clubs for this reason and just ended up giving up thinking their is no hope because they’ve been emptied with a very stupid reason that is not football related or their attitude.
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    Sevco started in the 3rd division in aug 2012. They did meet in the Scottish 3rd division that season .

    Me bad, you are in fact correct! Thanks for rectifying!
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    what about Bardsley from Burnley, regularly playing in the premier league
    Correct!

    Time to give the young guys their chance...!!
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    Quote Originally Posted by hfc rd View Post
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    Me bad, you are in fact correct! Thanks for rectifying!
    I was sure I'd heard that he'd played against Sevco 4 times that season without anyone at Ibrox twigging that he was a bit of a player?
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    Quote Originally Posted by hfc rd View Post
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    He was, which I only just found out.

    Reason for being released was because he was “too small”. 😂 Scottish mentality right there!
    Pretty sure that was the same reason Pat Nevin left Celtic too.

    On a side note, happened to me when I was nine and the local football coach said I was too small to play. At nine!
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    My DU mate did also mention that he subsequently found out Celtic had released him for the reasons stated above. Said it gave him a warm glow!

    His view was that the best 2 to breakthrough for them for a long time were AR and Scott Allan. He had mixed feelings when SA did so well for us, pleased for the player but sick he wasn't wearing tangerine! In the spirit of friendship I hope he's even sicker next season 😂
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    Quote Originally Posted by hfc rd View Post
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    They did and the Sevco fans apparently boycotted the fixture because they were one the Premiership clubs that voted not to allow them to start in the top flight. Earn the right like every other club in Scotland to get promoted to the Scottish Premiership.

    Utd spanked them that day! 😊
    Oh aye remember that now, was glorious 😁
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  26. 04-05-2019 10:16 AM #416
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    Pretty sure that was the same reason Pat Nevin left Celtic too.

    On a side note, happened to me when I was nine and the local football coach said I was too small to play. At nine!

    That’s ridiculous!

    As already mentioned, height shouldn’t be a factor to determine if a player is good enough or not. It’s all about what he does on the pitch for that should counts. Not if he’s 5ft2 or 6ft5.
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    Ah well. Remember where you heard it first
    Some people have obviously not watched Everton much.

    Well I do and I can say that Digne is a very good player but has to tighten up his defensive duties. Last night he was posted missing on a couple of occasions. He has a long throw which is a real skill in this day and age so he's an asset for the Toffees in that alone.

    He also has a powerful shot. Witness the second goal.
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    Andy Robertson is a elite player at top of his game. Didn't look out of place against Barca and week in out EPL a top performer. If only we had more as good.
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    Also Liam Cooper from Leeds Utd is Scottish and most of all is a CB. Our problem position for years!
    I'm a Leeds fan (born and bred, live near the City) as well as supporting Hibs who my granddad supported. Cooper has been insane this year and one of the best defenders in the league. He's a real ball playing defender, able to ping 30-40 yard passes out wide and he's pivotal to the footballing style that we have. Prior to this season he was remarkably average though and I worry whether his form will continue if Bielsa leaves.
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    Personally, I don’t think he has the defensive level to at that very elite level...(Alba, Mendy of Lyon , perhaps even Digne from Everton I’d say is better ) everything else though is top class..he was outstanding the other night.

    He must be easily a 40M+ player in the current market ...
    He's the best LB in the league by a country mile. Digne isn't close to Robertson.
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