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    'The War on Christmas'

    It's that time of year again when we learn than Muslamics and Hindihists want to ban Christmas. So post your examples here:

    Number 1 is, shock horror, Starbucks have released a green cup instead of a red one.

    https://www.buzzfeed.com/juliareinstein/put-the-christ-back-in-coffee?utm_term=.rum544oa1#.poPo77Oy6

    What an affront to the baby Santa so near his birthday.


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    Quote Originally Posted by Pretty Boy View Post
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    It's that time of year again when we learn than Muslamics and Hindihists want to ban Christmas. So post your examples here:

    Number 1 is, shock horror, Starbucks have released a green cup instead of a red one.

    https://www.buzzfeed.com/juliareinst...oa1#.poPo77Oy6

    What an affront to the baby Santa so near his birthday.
    Was Santa not green until Coca Cola got their grubby mitts on him

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    If a multi-national company like starbucks has stopped bothering to milk the **** out of Christmas then maybe it's days are numbered. I hope so

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    Quote Originally Posted by Mr White View Post
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    If a multi-national company like starbucks has stopped bothering to milk the **** out of Christmas then maybe it's days are numbered. I hope so
    While I'm sure there ARE valid cases around, generally the submission these days to a few petty people from minorities is unbelievable, be it religious, political, commuting, & all the rest.
    There's so many minority groups nowadays that the majority has become the minority - if you get my drift.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Mr White View Post
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    If a multi-national company like starbucks has stopped bothering to milk the **** out of Christmas then maybe it's days are numbered. I hope so
    Starbucks or Christmas?

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    Quote Originally Posted by CropleyWasGod View Post
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    Starbucks or Christmas?
    Both. In no particular order
    Last edited by Mr White; 02-11-2016 at 11:45 AM.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Mr White View Post
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    Both. In no particular order
    Perfect.

    The sooner we can get back to pagan rituals on the 21st of December, the better in my book.


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    I've never encountered anyone of any minority who has had any objection to Christmas.

    Whilst most people I know who aren't Christians obviously don't celebrate the religious aspect of Christmas, they tend to acknowledge and recognise the holiday and the festival. Their kids tend to get drawn into the commercial festival and all I know are happy to go along with it to a certain extent. People who have chosen this country as their home almost entirely respect the dominant religion and the views of the people who live there.

    I strongly object to the Daily Mail, Britain First kind of mentality that is hell bent on dividing people and creating problems that simply don't exist. It is very harmful and is driving the world into a position it needn't be in.

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    Quote Originally Posted by CropleyWasGod View Post
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    Perfect.

    The sooner we can get back to pagan rituals on the 21st of December, the better in my book.

    I believe this was first proposed by Turkey at recent UN conference.

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    We're gonna have to win the war on poppies before we can move on to the Christmas offensive.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Hibrandenburg View Post
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    We're gonna have to win the war on poppies before we can move on to the Christmas offensive.

    Would I be right in saying they don't do poppies in Germany for armistice day?
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    Quote Originally Posted by snooky View Post
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    While I'm sure there ARE valid cases around, generally the submission these days to a few petty people from minorities is unbelievable, be it religious, political, commuting, & all the rest.
    There's so many minority groups nowadays that the majority has become the minority - if you get my drift.
    Hard to think of too many genuine examples of any significance of "submission to minorities" that has an effect on the majority to be honest.

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    For clarity my original post was meant to be light hearted.

    Happy Winterval to one and all.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Golden Fleece View Post
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    Would I be right in saying they don't do poppies in Germany for armistice day?
    No, the 11th of November is the beginning of Carnival.

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    I've never encountered anyone of any minority who has had any objection to Christmas.

    Whilst most people I know who aren't Christians obviously don't celebrate the religious aspect of Christmas, they tend to acknowledge and recognise the holiday and the festival. Their kids tend to get drawn into the commercial festival and all I know are happy to go along with it to a certain extent. People who have chosen this country as their home almost entirely respect the dominant religion and the views of the people who live there.

    I strongly object to the Daily Mail, Britain First kind of mentality that is hell bent on dividing people and creating problems that simply don't exist. It is very harmful and is driving the world into a position it needn't be in.

    Think you some this up very well better than I could.

    Always seems to be a lot media outlets always looking to sensationalise(sp?) when Alot of these problems don't actually
    Exist

    As an aside I love Xmas and Xmas time don't like the fact the build up has already started so early think it kills the magic a little bit

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    I've never encountered anyone of any minority who has had any objection to Christmas.

    Whilst most people I know who aren't Christians obviously don't celebrate the religious aspect of Christmas, they tend to acknowledge and recognise the holiday and the festival. Their kids tend to get drawn into the commercial festival and all I know are happy to go along with it to a certain extent. People who have chosen this country as their home almost entirely respect the dominant religion and the views of the people who live there.

    I strongly object to the Daily Mail, Britain First kind of mentality that is hell bent on dividing people and creating problems that simply don't exist. It is very harmful and is driving the world into a position it needn't be in.
    The majority of people from ethnic minorities who follow different religions generally embrace Christmas, even if they do not fully celebrate it.

    The biggest problem comes from the atheist community who seem to want to take any sort of religious meaning out of Christmas, apparently in fear of offending the aforementioned people of ethnic minorities, when the truth is they are actually happy to enjoy the Christmas period with their friends.

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    The majority of people from ethnic minorities who follow different religions generally embrace Christmas, even if they do not fully celebrate it.

    The biggest problem comes from the atheist community who seem to want to take any sort of religious meaning out of Christmas, apparently in fear of offending the aforementioned people of ethnic minorities, when the truth is they are actually happy to enjoy the Christmas period with their friends.
    That is quite possibly the biggest load of bollocks I've ever read on this forum-congratulations!

    Firstly I didn't even realise not believing in imaginary characters made me part of a community.

    And secondly why would atheists give a toss about which god it is they don't believe in? If you really believe atheists believe LESS in a Christian god than say a Muslim one then I'm afraid you're away with the fairies
    *who also don't exist.

    Anyhow, as the OP was indeed meant to be a light hearted observation I'll bow out now - hopefully you've been nice rather than naughty this year, that way Santa will bring you gifts.....

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    Quote Originally Posted by Sir David Gray View Post
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    The majority of people from ethnic minorities who follow different religions generally embrace Christmas, even if they do not fully celebrate it.

    The biggest problem comes from the atheist community who seem to want to take any sort of religious meaning out of Christmas, apparently in fear of offending the aforementioned people of ethnic minorities, when the truth is they are actually happy to enjoy the Christmas period with their friends.
    Aye right, so it's the atheists who are the racists and bigots. Suppose they're at fault for brexit too?

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    Quote Originally Posted by Sir David Gray View Post
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    The majority of people from ethnic minorities who follow different religions generally embrace Christmas, even if they do not fully celebrate it.

    The biggest problem comes from the atheist community who seem to want to take any sort of religious meaning out of Christmas, apparently in fear of offending the aforementioned people of ethnic minorities, when the truth is they are actually happy to enjoy the Christmas period with their friends.

    Speaking as someone who has nothing but contempt for any organised religion...I love Xmas. And the more who do, the merrier!
    No big(gest) problem whatsoever. Anti-theists may no invest in ethereal nothingnesses or daft sky-wizards but we dinnae spend our times sucking the joy from our societal festivals and celebrations, particularly because of a non-belief. It's the believers that divide, no the sensible folks...Jesus!

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    Quote Originally Posted by Greentinted View Post
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    Speaking as someone who has nothing but contempt for any organised religion...I love Xmas. And the more who do, the merrier!
    No big(gest) problem whatsoever. Anti-theists may no invest in ethereal nothingnesses or daft sky-wizards but we dinnae spend our times sucking the joy from our societal festivals and celebrations, particularly because of a non-belief. It's the believers that divide, no the sensible folks...Jesus!
    You better believe it.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Greentinted View Post
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    Oi. That's my best Christmas gear

    I got this in Costa this morning......

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    Quote Originally Posted by Mikey View Post
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    Oi. That's my best Christmas gear

    I got this in Costa this morning......

    Humbug.jpg
    I'd have asked for a plain cup. We've not had Bonfire Night or St Andrew's Day yet.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Mikey View Post
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    Oi. That's my best Christmas gear

    I got this in Costa this morning......

    Humbug.jpg
    Did you not get a hot cross bun and an Easter egg with it?

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    Quote Originally Posted by Sir David Gray View Post
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    The majority of people from ethnic minorities who follow different religions generally embrace Christmas, even if they do not fully celebrate it.

    The biggest problem comes from the atheist community who seem to want to take any sort of religious meaning out of Christmas, apparently in fear of offending the aforementioned people of ethnic minorities, when the truth is they are actually happy to enjoy the Christmas period with their friends.
    Can you give me an example which backs up either of those two statements?

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    Quote Originally Posted by Hibee87 View Post
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    Was Santa not green until Coca Cola got their grubby mitts on him
    Yes, he was.
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    Quote Originally Posted by The Green Goblin View Post
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    Can you give me an example which backs up either of those two statements?
    I'm not sure the comment about athiests hokds eater, but I agree that most people embrace Christmas to some degree.

    Christmas trees in Indian restaurants, Christmas menus in Halal restaurants and decorations on asian shop windows attest to that.

    They certainly embrace it more than Christians do with other religious festvals like Diwali or Hanukkah.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Hibbyradge View Post
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    I'm not sure the comment about athiests hokds eater, but I agree that most people embrace Christmas to some degree.

    Christmas trees in Indian restaurants, Christmas menus in Halal restaurants and decorations on asian shop windows attest to that.

    They certainly embrace it more than Christians do with other religious festvals like Diwali or Hanukkah.
    I think that's probably about right. Cheers Mr. Radge. Have to say I also disagree with the other point.

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    You better believe it.
    Nice...

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    They might also have to rename Hogmanay to Lambmanay.

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    I'd like to declare war on Christmas (yes, I'm an atheist). Matt Haig's recent article is a good example of why.

    https://www.theguardian.com/society/...P=share_btn_tw

    Christmas, I realised, could be a nightmare. It could intensify what depression already, to some extent, made you feel: that the world was having fun while you definitely weren’t. Christmas intensifies the chiaroscuro (to use the pretentious kind of art-history terms I had in my head at the time): the contrast between light and shade. The light around you seems brighter, so the dark feels darker.
    As someone who suffers from pretty intense anxiety, all Christmas does for me is make me feel like I should be on point, I should be happy, and I should be jovial at every thought of spending time with my family and loved ones. The songs that 'exude happiness', are a constant message of how happy everyone should be - the chaotic shopping experience, and commercial expectations that you flourish people with gifts or 'don't care'. As un-religious as I am, I've much more respect for those who observe it as a religious holiday than those who go overboard with greed, overindulgence and utter twee decorations/dreadfully cliched celebrations.

    But to each, their own. I just realised I shouldn't feel compelled to join in with the charade. And that was liberating.
    Madness, as you know, is a lot like gravity. All it takes is a little push.

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