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    Nissan

    Good news for the North East of England.

    Fundamentally, as I understand it, and as it was explained to me last week, what's happened is that they've agreed with the government that the UK taxpayer will pick up any tariffs which may be imposed on their exports because of Brexit.

    So, in effect, we'll still be paying the EU to trade with it.

    And there was me hoping an extra 350m a week would go to the NHS.

    http://www.bbc.co.uk/news/business-37787890


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    Quote Originally Posted by Hibbyradge View Post
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    Good news for the North East of England.

    Fundamentally, as I understand it, and as it was explained to me last week, what's happened is that they've agreed with the government that the UK taxpayer will pick up any tariffs which may be imposed on their exports because of Brexit.

    So, in effect, we'll still be paying the EU to trade with it.

    And there was me hoping an extra 350m a week would go to the NHS.

    http://www.bbc.co.uk/news/business-37787890
    This never going to happen. If they pay Nissan they'd have to pay everyone. Mundell said that they'd pay all Scottish businesses that lose out when asked by Dave Anderson at Scottish Ministers questions at Westminster.

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    Quote Originally Posted by lucky View Post
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    This never going to happen. If they pay Nissan they'd have to pay everyone. Mundell said that they'd pay all Scottish businesses that lose out when asked by Dave Anderson at Scottish Ministers questions at Westminster.
    Seriously?

    So if I lose a few Polish clients because they're being asked to leave the UK, or because they choose to leave, I can claim off the Government?

    Where do i sign up?

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    Quote Originally Posted by lucky View Post
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    This never going to happen. If they pay Nissan they'd have to pay everyone. Mundell said that they'd pay all Scottish businesses that lose out when asked by Dave Anderson at Scottish Ministers questions at Westminster.
    It is going to happen.

    Nissan were in London for talks with the government soon after the result.

    Of course, not everyone will be compensated. Only those who are powerful politically and economically. Like Nissan in the NE of England.

    Oh, and the City of London.
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    It is going to happen.

    Nissan were in London for talks with the government soon after the result.

    Of course, not everyone will be compensated. Only those who are powerful politically and economically. Like Nissan in the NE of England.

    Oh, and the City of London.
    The compensation package ensures Nissan can't lose out which ensures that they will continue to operate in the NE of England and allows WM to crow about how brexit isn't having any effect on britain. It's all smoke and mirrors although the fact that it means 9000 workers dont lose their jobs so that has to be a good thing.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Dub View Post
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    The compensation package ensures Nissan can't lose out which ensures that they will continue to operate in the NE of England and allows WM to crow about how brexit isn't having any effect on britain. It's all smoke and mirrors although the fact that it means 9000 workers dont lose their jobs so that has to be a good thing.
    It is a good thing.

    Let's hope every firm affected by tariffs get the same deal.

    But of course, they can't, unless we stay in the single market ...
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    Quote Originally Posted by CropleyWasGod View Post
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    Seriously?

    So if I lose a few Polish clients because they're being asked to leave the UK, or because they choose to leave, I can claim off the Government?

    Where do i sign up?
    Taxpayer underwritten sweetheart deals are no biggie.

    Meanwhile in Scotland...https://t.co/tjQoKnevDk
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    New X Trail looks OK

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    Quote Originally Posted by Hibbyradge View Post
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    Good news for the North East of England.

    Fundamentally, as I understand it, and as it was explained to me last week, what's happened is that they've agreed with the government that the UK taxpayer will pick up any tariffs which may be imposed on their exports because of Brexit.

    So, in effect, we'll still be paying the EU to trade with it.

    And there was me hoping an extra 350m a week would go to the NHS.

    http://www.bbc.co.uk/news/business-37787890
    Not sure anyone knows the 'deal'...although clearly some assurances have been given.

    It was though a bit of a bluff from Nissan and I'm sure the UK government knew that. The cost of moving production would have been enormous so it was always likely that Nissan would continue to build and invest in a plant that has been extremely successful for them.

    Again though I'm struck at how people turn things to their own agenda (not aimed at the Op btw). People have demanded governments intervene to save steel works etc for years and now when a government does take steps to secure a large inward investment and secure jobs it's now a bad thing or at the very least underhand or preferential.

    Most on here will know my thoughts on government intervention so I'm not singing any praises at the thought of it but surely there will be some on here that will welcome the removal of EU state aid rules (routinely flaunted when it suited the French of course) and the freedom the UK will have to do such deals when it wants to in the future?

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    Quote Originally Posted by SiMar View Post
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    Not sure anyone knows the 'deal'...although clearly some assurances have been given.

    It was though a bit of a bluff from Nissan and I'm sure the UK government knew that. The cost of moving production would have been enormous so it was always likely that Nissan would continue to build and invest in a plant that has been extremely successful for them.

    Again though I'm struck at how people turn things to their own agenda (not aimed at the Op btw). People have demanded governments intervene to save steel works etc for years and now when a government does take steps to secure a large inward investment and secure jobs it's now a bad thing or at the very least underhand or preferential.

    Most on here will know my thoughts on government intervention so I'm not singing any praises at the thought of it but surely there will be some on here that will welcome the removal of EU state aid rules (routinely flaunted when it suited the French of course) and the freedom the UK will have to do such deals when it wants to in the future?
    The people in that area of the North East were amongst the most feverish brexit supporters. If anyone should be made to live with the consequences of their decision it should be them. Instead the tories being tories are only interested in gaining their votes and to hell with the rest.

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    The people in that area of the North East were amongst the most feverish brexit supporters. If anyone should be made to live with the consequences of their decision it should be them. Instead the tories being tories are only interested in gaining their votes and to hell with the rest.
    Tory gains in Sunderland? Unlikely.

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    Quote Originally Posted by ballengeich View Post
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    Tory gains in Sunderland? Unlikely.
    I agree, they'll probably stay with UKIP.

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    It is a good thing.

    Let's hope every firm affected by tariffs get the same deal.

    But of course, they can't, unless we stay in the single market ...

    You're right, they won't because ultimately it's tax payers who will foot the bill and there isn't enough to go round. I want to stay in the EU and in the single market but I'm pretty sure that it isn't going to happen in the UK and all the bluster from Theresa May that she is going to get "The best deal possible" means absolutely nothing because that best deal might be complete rubbish.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Hibrandenburg View Post
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    The people in that area of the North East were amongst the most feverish brexit supporters. If anyone should be made to live with the consequences of their decision it should be them. Instead the tories being tories are only interested in gaining their votes and to hell with the rest.
    Ha ha "feverish"...really?

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    Quote Originally Posted by SiMar View Post
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    Ha ha "feverish"...really?
    Really. A study made by a few universities a couple of years back showed that the north east was about 50 years behind the rest of the UK in attitudes towards immigration and foreigners.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Hibrandenburg View Post
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    Really. A study made by a few universities a couple of years back showed that the north east was about 50 years behind the rest of the UK in attitudes towards immigration and foreigners.
    It seems ironic given that Yorkshire and the Humber, Tyne and Wear and the rest of the North East has the lowest migration in the UK. Indeed, Tyne and Wear is the only place where migration has fallen over the past 5 years.

    http://www.migrationobservatory.ox.ac.uk/resources/briefings/migrants-in-the-uk-an-overview/

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    Quote Originally Posted by steakbake View Post
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    It seems ironic given that Yorkshire and the Humber, Tyne and Wear and the rest of the North East has the lowest migration in the UK. Indeed, Tyne and Wear is the only place where migration has fallen over the past 5 years.

    http://www.migrationobservatory.ox.ac.uk/resources/briefings/migrants-in-the-uk-an-overview/
    It's the same over here in Germany. The areas where there are the least migrants are the ones that make the biggest fuss about migration. The word ignorance describes it perfectly.
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