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28-01-2017 01:47 PM #121
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28-01-2017 01:52 PM #122This quote is hidden because you are ignoring this member. Show Quote
He's always a bit unsteady after a race so think everyone just assumed he needed his usual water and space to cool down. Obviously something deeper though.
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28-01-2017 02:30 PM #123This quote is hidden because you are ignoring this member. Show Quote
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28-01-2017 04:42 PM #124
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On another note, desperate news about Many Clouds. Always horrible to hear of a horse passing but the circumstances here make it so much worse. A live GC contender after that win and feel so sorry for Oliver Sherwood after he made a brave decision in taking Thistlecrack on.
In other news, another good win for Wholestone although I think he's better over further, and Unowhatimeanharry wins again. I would love to see Vroum Vroum Mag take him on in the stayers after she struggled in a poor mares race over 2m.
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28-01-2017 05:16 PM #125This quote is hidden because you are ignoring this member. Show Quote
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29-01-2017 02:15 PM #126
Impressive run by the much hyped Melon today. Put himself right in the Supreme picture.
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29-01-2017 04:27 PM #127This quote is hidden because you are ignoring this member. Show Quote
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29-01-2017 05:20 PM #128
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29-01-2017 07:06 PM #129
As I posted a few weeks ago I am a member of a small Facebook (and Whatsapp) group that has Oliver Sherwood as a member.
This morning he sent us all a message of thanks for the messages we sent him after yeaterdays events at Cheltenham. It included a few nice anecdotes about Many Clouds and also a word of thanks from CJ (one of his yardmen who looked after Many Clouds on a day to day basis). As is tradition the travelling lass was given the bridle of the horse and apparently it all got a bit emptional when this was passed on to CJ, who has looked after him since he came to the yard as a 4 year old.
Perhaps inevitably Animal Aid have reared their heads and have publicly stated (in the Daily Mail and Huffington Post) their intention to take legal action against both the BHA and Oliver. This is based on a letter the repugnant Dene Stansall wrote to the BHA last year stating Many Clouds was unfit to run in the National (with no veterinary evidence to back the claim up I would add). This has obviously caused a bit distress at the yard as the implication is that they wilfully ran a horse that was unfit to run which they obviously deny. They had Many Clouds looked over in the summer and the only issue found was a small wind problem which was operated on.
It's a shame racing is going to be in the press for all the wrong reasons again. The work that has been done over the last decade or so with the RSPCA, World Horse Welfare, Retraining of Racehorses, Greatwood and so on has seen fatalities in NH racing fall to an all time low of about 0.4% and in 17 years it's about 0.02% who have died in a similar way to Many Clouds (who's cause of death still hasn't been confirmed as there was a necropsy planned for today). There has also been unprecedented improvements in birth to death care of NH horses. Sadly the extremists and hypocrites make the better story though.PM Awards General Poster of The Year 2015, 2016, 2017. Probably robbed in other years
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29-01-2017 07:26 PM #130This quote is hidden because you are ignoring this member. Show Quote
Totally agree with you re. Death Duty, he'll have to be on his A game to win the Albert Bartlett. A good each way bet might be Messire Des Obeaux, but you'd have to think Jacob would choose Wholestone first. Wholestone seems a bit of a character, he's really gutsy, but he continually makes mistakes although he normally gets away with it. I've backed him in every race this season and would love to see him win at the festival, but it's his jumping I'm still concerned about.
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30-01-2017 09:25 AM #131This quote is hidden because you are ignoring this member. Show Quote
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30-01-2017 11:14 AM #132This quote is hidden because you are ignoring this member. Show QuotePM Awards General Poster of The Year 2015, 2016, 2017. Probably robbed in other years
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30-01-2017 04:22 PM #133
So the PM results are out on Many Clouds and he died of a pulmanory haemorrhage. NO UNDERLYING HEALTH ISSUES WERE FOUND. The horse had worn a heart monitor in training prior to his comeback at Aintree in November and his heart function was normal.
He also showed no signs of post race ataxia (known as 'the wobbles') either at Aintree or prior to his collapse at Cheltenham on Saturday. THE PM RESULTS CATEGORICALLY PROVE THAT THE SYMPTOMS EXHIBITED BY MANY CLOUDS IN THE PAST WERE IN NO WAY PRESENT OR ASSOCIATED WITH HIS SAD DEATH AT CHELTENHAM ON SATURDAY.PM Awards General Poster of The Year 2015, 2016, 2017. Probably robbed in other years
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30-01-2017 05:12 PM #134
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31-01-2017 06:37 PM #135
So JP McManus has put Jezki and Uknowwatimeanharry in the stayers and Yanworth, and most interestingly, Buveur D'Air in the Champion.
The Champion looks wide open imo. Even if Faugheen does run it's a huge ask to win the Champion in his first start of the season.PM Awards General Poster of The Year 2015, 2016, 2017. Probably robbed in other years
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31-01-2017 07:59 PM #136
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06-02-2017 03:16 PM #138
Faugheen and Min both out of Cheltenham now.
Should open up a chance for a few decent priced winners and Altior surely the NAP of the meeting in the Arkle now with no Min around.PM Awards General Poster of The Year 2015, 2016, 2017. Probably robbed in other years
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06-02-2017 06:32 PM #140
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With Faugheen coming out of CH now I wonder if Henderson regrets putting Buvear D'air in instead of Altior. Altior clearly the better horse and would be clear favorite for that race.
Was he told by JP McMannus? I don't think BD beats Yanworth but Altior certainly would. Strange one.
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11-02-2017 03:00 PM #142
Just watched Altior at Newbury. Okay, so he was 30/100, but he was really impressive. Really good round of jumping, and stretched clear at the end.
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12-02-2017 03:29 PM #144
Good run by Sizing John at Leopardstown, putting down a marker for a Gold Cup place. Saw this in Twitter about him:
'When there is no Douvan, Sizing John's form line over hurdles and fences reads 1131111. In races with Douvan 2322232. Heck of a horse.'PM Awards General Poster of The Year 2015, 2016, 2017. Probably robbed in other years
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13-02-2017 01:12 AM #146
Altior's been impressive this season, no doubt. Comparisons with Sprinter Sacre might be a bit premature, but he's certainly going the right way. He probably will win the Arkle, but if Yorkhill's in that race I don't see Altior winning on the bridle. Just my opinion but I think Yorkhill would be a very dangerous horse to dismiss.
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13-02-2017 06:52 PM #147
Was sad to read that Fame And Glory has passed away at stud. In the shadow of Sea The Stars most of the time, but still a dam good racehorse. RIP.
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14-02-2017 07:17 PM #148
Grand National weights are out at 9 tonight.
Rule The World looking quite the celebrity on the red carpet.PM Awards General Poster of The Year 2015, 2016, 2017. Probably robbed in other years
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14-02-2017 08:17 PM #149
Outlander top weight.
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Outlander
Champagne West
Empire of Dirt
Don Poli
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14-02-2017 10:42 PM #150
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