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    Quote Originally Posted by HIBERNIAN-0762 View Post
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    Tin hat on.

    Seriously. Do you think they would have a minutes applause or silence if it was one of our supporters?

    Think before you jump on me.

    While I disagree with a minutes applause, I think the decision should be ours, and not based on the warped views of supporters of T'Rangers. I refuse to stoop to their level.


    I'm happy to say that, going by the other thread reporting the incident, lots of Hibs Fans have risen above everything else and shown their real humanity.


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    Quote Originally Posted by HIBERNIAN-0762 View Post
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    Tin hat on.

    Seriously. Do you think they would have a minutes applause or silence if it was one of our supporters?

    Think before you jump on me.
    Of course they wouldn't and neither would celtic, hearts, Aberdeen etc.

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    Anderlecht away?
    Yes, on the train to London with the old door locks...

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    Quote Originally Posted by scoopyboy View Post
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    Anderlecht away?
    Correct, the 24 year anniversary was a couple of days ago.
    There was a silence pre-match at our game in Brussels, but in those days there was no suggestion that it would be appropriate at any other game.
    These sort of tributes were rare, and therefore actually meant something back then.

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    I think we should extend a hand of friendship towards them after the cup final and offering a minutes silence today is a fitting way to do it.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Keekaboo View Post
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    While I disagree with a minutes applause, I think the decision should be ours, and not based on the warped views of supporters of T'Rangers. I refuse to stoop to their level.


    I'm happy to say that, going by the other thread reporting the incident, lots of Hibs Fans have risen above everything else and shown their real humanity.
    I'm fairly sure most are unaware about the individual.

    As you still refer to humanity can you honestly tell me that I should take some time to show respect to the death of someone who amongst other things has posted celebrating the deaths of innocent men, women and children due to them being Catholics and suggesting that asylum seekers at Calais should be burned to death. Not reposting or innocently sharing something but actually personally expressing these views.

    I'd be pretty disgusted if we went ahead with anything today.

    This is the danger of getting involved in pushing for tributes for people we know nothing about.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Ozyhibby View Post
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    One of these days a real club legend is going to pass away and all we are going to be able to do for him is the same as we do every week for some random whose death was reported on the news or was mentioned on Hibs.net.
    They have become meaningless empty gestures. There is no reflection whatsoever.
    Most times they start and people start to join in while not even knowing why or who it's for. You can hear people asking around you at the game and rarely do you hear an answer that clarifies beyond a vague description. It's really sad.



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    Needed said

    An official statement offering condolences to the bereaved family and good wishes to the injured. Anything more is just faux grief.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Andy74 View Post
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    I'd be pretty disgusted if we went ahead with anything today.
    Agree 100%. The guy held some absolutely vile views and I want our club to have nothing to do with it.

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    Agree 100%. The guy held some absolutely vile views and I want our club to have nothing to do with it.
    Neat summary, and I'm out too.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Andy74 View Post
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    I'm fairly sure most are unaware about the individual.

    As you still refer to humanity can you honestly tell me that I should take some time to show respect to the death of someone who amongst other things has posted celebrating the deaths of innocent men, women and children due to them being Catholics and suggesting that asylum seekers at Calais should be burned to death. Not reposting or innocently sharing something but actually personally expressing these views.

    I'd be pretty disgusted if we went ahead with anything today.

    This is the danger of getting involved in pushing for tributes for people we know nothing about.
    I was unaware Andy, thanks for posting that.

    Makes my mind up.

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    Quote Originally Posted by SkintHibby View Post
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    I think we should extend a hand of friendship towards them after the cup final and offering a minutes silence today is a fitting way to do it.
    So it has taken the death of someone to extend a hand of friendship. Na no thanks. Remember were the pantomime baddies for everything that happened that day. Certainly not Hibs Class.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Andy74 View Post
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    I'm fairly sure most are unaware about the individual.

    As you still refer to humanity can you honestly tell me that I should take some time to show respect to the death of someone who amongst other things has posted celebrating the deaths of innocent men, women and children due to them being Catholics and suggesting that asylum seekers at Calais should be burned to death. Not reposting or innocently sharing something but actually personally expressing these views.

    I'd be pretty disgusted if we went ahead with anything today.

    This is the danger of getting involved in pushing for tributes for people we know nothing about.
    Sometimes it is good to be the bigger man.

    Everybody's got views that others might find objectionable.

    I find it hard to believe that people find it so hard to button their lip for a minute for somebody who at the end of the day, was a football fan going to watch their team.

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    Quote Originally Posted by WhileTheChief.. View Post
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    Agree 100%. The guy held some absolutely vile views and I want our club to have nothing to do with it.
    Yep, I do regret a fan dying and the accident happening, that's the human factor for me.

    I can identify with most fans of football teams and it's generally the only thing or the main thing we have in common.

    Respect for me comes from what you know of them in life and your own values so on this one I can see where Andy74 and others of a similar mind are coming from.



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    I worked hard during the week and have the usual stresses of family life to contend with.

    Going to the football is my escape from it all. I don't see why I should have to spend any part of it showing faux grief mourning the passing of someone who I didn't know (and glad I never did going by what I've heard about him).

    Getting a bit fed up with football having to host these things when it never happens at any other form of entertainment. Its getting out of hand.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Andy74 View Post
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    I'm fairly sure most are unaware about the individual.

    As you still refer to humanity can you honestly tell me that I should take some time to show respect to the death of someone who amongst other things has posted celebrating the deaths of innocent men, women and children due to them being Catholics and suggesting that asylum seekers at Calais should be burned to death. Not reposting or innocently sharing something but actually personally expressing these views.

    I'd be pretty disgusted if we went ahead with anything today.

    This is the danger of getting involved in pushing for tributes for people we know nothing about.
    I had to have a look on social media to see what you were talking about and totally agree, we shouldn't be having one anyway but after seeing what I've saw I'm even more against it.

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    Let's not do it. I'm sick of these empty gestures.

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    Despite what the victim of this accident may or may not have posted on social media, it's maybe worth remembering that there were 36 other people on board the bus and 2 are seriously ill in hospital afaik. I understand that people feel it's inappropriate for a minutes applause. It's equally inappropriate to pick apart a man's character a few hours after he's passed away imo.

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    A fellow football supporter has died today on his way to support his team as we do on a regular basis.

    A minutes appulase at the start game is the least we can do as it could have been one of our own.
    By all means a tragedy but nothing to do with Hibs so no thanks.

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    Despite what the victim of this accident may or may not have posted on social media, it's maybe worth remembering that there were 36 other people on board the bus and 2 are seriously ill in hospital afaik. I understand that people feel it's inappropriate for a minutes applause. It's equally inappropriate to pick apart a man's character a few hours after he's passed away imo.
    ...someone forced him to post that the people at the 'jungle' should be burned alive?

    It's not really picking 'apart a man's character' when he's put such revolting views into the public domain.

    His family have my sympathies. Time to move on.

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    Quote Originally Posted by magpie1892 View Post
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    ...someone forced him to post that the people at the 'jungle' should be burned alive?
    No of course not. It's just not relevant imo.

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    No of course not. It's just not relevant imo.
    Fair enough. We'll agree to differ on this one.

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    Quote Originally Posted by magpie1892 View Post
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    ...someone forced him to post that the people at the 'jungle' should be burned alive?

    It's not really picking 'apart a man's character' when he's put such revolting views into the public domain.

    His family have my sympathies. Time to move on.
    I've since seen the vile poison he's posted. Definitely no applause from me though if people choose to have a silence then I will be quiet for a minute.

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