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    Quote Originally Posted by Sir David Gray View Post
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    I'll back this motion.

    Could they withdraw from the league as well while they're at it?

    That would be splendid.
    Any chance of the male of this particular sub species giving withdrawal a go?

    They are a dying breed anyway as society moves on, but any form of contraception has got to help

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    Quote Originally Posted by Fuzzywuzzy View Post
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    The one guy speaking sense and pointing out to them what the reality of the SFA punishing Hibs would have meant for Sevco is subjected to sectarian abuse and the others are talking about boycotting the Scottish cup and even away games coz that'll hurt the other clubs, forgetting that for the last 4 years they got by just fine without a visit from the knuckle draggers and having their seats ripped up and bogs vandalised.

    I used to think the old joke ..... Q ... 'what's red white and blue and has an IQ of 150? ... A .... 'a hundred and fifty Rangers supporters' was just a joke, but now I'm not so sure

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    Quote Originally Posted by NAE NOOKIE View Post
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    The one guy speaking sense and pointing out to them what the reality of the SFA punishing Hibs would have meant for Sevco is subjected to sectarian abuse and the others are talking about boycotting the Scottish cup and even away games coz that'll hurt the other clubs, forgetting that for the last 4 years they got by just fine without a visit from the knuckle draggers and having their seats ripped up and bogs vandalised.

    I used to think the old joke ..... Q ... 'what's red white and blue and has an IQ of 150? ... A .... 'a hundred and fifty Rangers supporters' was just a joke, but now I'm not so sure
    Don't know if you seen his latest posts but he's went off on one. Can't argue much with his original post but it's all so pleasing...

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    Quote Originally Posted by CentreLine View Post
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    I think we will see this ramped up more and more by The Rangers Football Club. IIRC there was a clear statement from the new club, when it was formed and refused access to the top league, along the lines that they would take revenge on those they considered responsible for not allowing the new club an unfair advantage. As I see it any little thing is going to be pounced upon as they try to bring down Scottish football.

    The dignified thing to have done, IMHO, would have been to accept the situation, be grateful that the rules were bent to allow a new club direct access to the leagues and to quietly repay a little of their debt to Scottish football as they played their way towards the premier division. The fans of Rangers FC should have the same right as any other football supporter to have a team to follow. It would have been so much better for them and for Scottish football if the club they now follow had shown some dignity in all of this. I also believe they should be allowed to call the new club anything they want and to claim descent from 1872. The new club may not be Rangers football club but it cannot be denied that it is son of Rangers Football Club. However it seems that this club wants to kick out at everyone and sadly they have carried more than a minority of their fans with them. They cannot accept that this is a problem of their own making

    Perhaps someone could find that quote from 2012 but in the meantime I suspect Level 5 wish the current scandal in English football was happening here.

    Sadly I believe their intent is, at the very least, to bring down the SFA and SPFL hence their focus on RP's position in this instance. The SFA have not helped themselves mind you as they fail at every turn to deal with the constant disrepute piled on the game by releases from in and around Ibrox.
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    Quote Originally Posted by JAY-ESS GREEN View Post
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    Had it wrong all these years apparently it's the Vatican that runs the media in our "wee sh$@hole country".
    Let's all sign that petition!!

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    Quote Originally Posted by Fuzzywuzzy View Post
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    We should help them out and sign it too.
    http://YouTube.be/P8ciVBQixpU
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    Just gets funnier and funnier

    http://www.scotzine.com/2016/10/rang...tish-football/

    Very true though

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    Quote Originally Posted by Fuzzywuzzy View Post
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    Just gets funnier and funnier

    http://www.scotzine.com/2016/10/rang...tish-football/

    Very true though
    He could even also have mentioned the appalling destruction in Manchester in 2008, old firm match violence, their own pitch invasion at Easter Road (of all places) in 2005...

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    Quote Originally Posted by Fuzzywuzzy View Post
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    I think that's a very good article. Says a lot of the things I've been thinking since the final.

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    Excellent article. Isn't it amazing that this is what very single fan of very single club in Scotland thinks yet the piss poor scottish main stream media still pander to the lowest common denominator within the Hun fanbase. Both the media and the Huns are an embarrasment

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    According to the BBC (in the middle of an article, no headlines) there was fighting on the pitch after the Hull v Salford Rugby League match. Wonder how much press coverage that will get?

    http://www.bbc.co.uk/sport/rugby-league/37488691

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    Quote Originally Posted by Fuzzywuzzy View Post
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    Just gets funnier and funnier

    http://www.scotzine.com/2016/10/rang...tish-football/

    Very true though
    That article depressed me.
    In the sense that it's some guy's page online and that it's not the commonplace, accepted, consensus view of all the national media.

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    Quote Originally Posted by PatHead View Post
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    According to the BBC (in the middle of an article, no headlines) there was fighting on the pitch after the Hull v Salford Rugby League match. Wonder how much press coverage that will get?

    http://www.bbc.co.uk/sport/rugby-league/37488691
    Thought the same thing. Can you see enquiries and government comment?

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    Quote Originally Posted by Andy74 View Post
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    Thought the same thing. Can you see enquiries and government comment?
    4 wee lines compared to the coverage we got from the Scottish press. Says it all.


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    Quote Originally Posted by CallumLaidlaw View Post
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    Surely the SFA would be in front of us and the huns for legal action no? Security was their concern, they hired the equipment from TFC and since they themselves have failed to implement strict liability I can't see any claim against the clubs making it to court tbh.

    There's no way Glasgow City Council should have to pick up the bill though.
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    Quote Originally Posted by hibsbollah View Post
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    That article depressed me.
    In the sense that it's some guy's page online and that it's not the commonplace, accepted, consensus view of all the national media.
    Even more depressing, as I previously confirmed in response to what was a rhetorical enquiry, is that - more-or-less - that is the view of the national media, but woe betide any reporter who files anything along those lines. Would just get spiked.

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    Surely the SFA would be in front of us and the huns for legal action no? Security was their concern, they hired the equipment from TFC and since they themselves have failed to implement strict liability I can't see any claim against the clubs making it to court tbh.

    There's no way Glasgow City Council should have to pick up the bill though.
    Who does?

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    Quote Originally Posted by GlasgowHibee View Post
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    Who does?
    Given that the company (TFC Scotland) have had their insurance claim rejected on the grounds that the damage was caused by a "riot" then I would say the SFA are liable instead of the clubs since strict liability was rejected. If the only reason that the council has been mentioned at all is because of some archaic 200 year old legislation then that's wrong imo. Why should the council be held liable for an event organised and hosted by the SFA?
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    Given that the company (TFC Scotland) have had their insurance claim rejected on the grounds that the damage was caused by a "riot" then I would say the SFA are liable instead of the clubs since strict liability was rejected. If the only reason that the council has been mentioned at all is because of some archaic 200 year old legislation then that's wrong imo. Why should the council be held liable for an event organised and hosted by the SFA?
    I think the only chance of successfully seeking compensation for damage done to their equipment would be to sue Co-Defenders the SFA and Police Scotland.

    They would have no chance of winning a claim against an individual club at a match played at Hampden.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Sham69 View Post
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    I think the only chance of successfully seeking compensation for damage done to their equipment would be to sue Co-Defenders the SFA and Police Scotland.

    They would have no chance of winning a claim against an individual club at a match played at Hampden.

    GGTTH
    Glasgow Council are considering suing Hibs and Rangers to cover the cost of the LED Advertising Things £800,000

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    The claim against the council from the company that supplied the led boards looks pretty flimsy (not unlike their hardware) but any case by the council against the clubs is even weaker imo.

    It raises the question of why TFC would consider raising action against the council (on the grounds of ancient bylaws) rather than the organisation that contracted them in the first place and ultimately failed to ensure the hardware survived the event they organised. Maybe to protect future contracts perhaps? Or maybe the wording of the contract that the SFA signed protects them from any liability for damage caused by supporters?

    Either way, this weeks outcome of disciplinary action against the clubs leaves the SFA more exposed than Hibs are. I hope

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    Glasgow Council are considering suing Hibs and Rangers to cover the cost of the LED Advertising Things £800,000
    I am certain the court of session would not in a million years hold either individual club liable for fans entering the field of play and damaging equipment.

    Liability for securing the perimeter of the pitch and field of play will most probably rest with the SFA and Police Scotland.

    Both individual clubs would have been required to hire their own security to police the perimeter of the pitch if liability for securing the perimeter of the pitch had fallen upon them.

    I put it the SFA private security and Police Scotland were liable for securing the perimeter of the pitch and field of play and any proceedings would name them both as Co-Defenders.


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    Maybe someone in the Council just wants to noise The Rangers up

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    A piece by Brodies the lawyers following the riots in England a while ago and how that would work in Scotland.

    http://www.brodies.com/node/1668
    Space to let

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    Quote Originally Posted by Jack View Post
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    A piece by Brodies the lawyers following the riots in England a while ago and how that would work in Scotland.

    http://www.brodies.com/node/1668

    That explains the claim against Glasgow City Council.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Fuzzywuzzy View Post
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    Just gets funnier and funnier

    http://www.scotzine.com/2016/10/rang...tish-football/

    Very true though
    "you do know that your club voted against strict liability and that Hibernian voted in favour of it"

    Is this true?

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    Quote Originally Posted by lapsedhibee View Post
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    "you do know that your club voted against strict liability and that Hibernian voted in favour of it"

    Is this true?
    Pretty sure we voted against it.

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    It was a secret vote and only a handful of clubs were in favour. I would guess these 'for' clubs are lower league.

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    Quote Originally Posted by lapsedhibee View Post
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    "you do know that your club voted against strict liability and that Hibernian voted in favour of it"

    Is this true?
    I was always of the understanding we were one of 5 clubs voting for it.
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