Cup final disciplinary outcome

[marinello59]

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Unfortunately our representatives at Holyrood are now sticking their snouts in:

http://m.heraldscotland.com/news/147...up_final_riot/

I wish they'd stop calling it a riot, it was nothing of the sort.

[Bostonhibby]

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I wish they'd stop calling it a riot, it was nothing of the sort.

If they'd acted on existing sectarian hate legislation maybe there'd have been a good few huns less at hampden to really riot that day

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[Onion]

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Unfortunately our representatives at Holyrood are now sticking their snouts in:

http://m.heraldscotland.com/news/147...up_final_riot/

IMO we should welcome that. It's too late for them to do anything about the events of last May but is a serious shot across the bows of Regan and the SFA who not fit for purpose. What role DO they actually play in the running of the game these days if they're unable to even organise a match at Hampden without it collapsing into farce ? If politicians start to interfere, the main losers will be Celtic and Sevco. Gets more ironic by the day

[NORTHERNHIBBY]

Guessing think tank, gravy train, hand wringing, furrowed brows and tutting and then a down with this sort of thing initiative that will go nowhere.

[number9dream]

The Uefa fines for Celtic and Legia Warsaw today are examples of strict liability.

They are also examples of how it's not working as a deterrent since both clubs get these kind of fines all the time. Uefa hit Celtic all the time for the Green Brigade banners and Lawwell always condemns them and they just do it again and again.

[jax67]

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I love the pronouncements from The Rangers and their fans group representatives. When I read them I'm hearing a loud Ulster accent a la Rev Ian Paisley. It's hilarious.

Just tried that. Hilarious!!👌👏

[jax67]

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From the Evening Times, a response to the SFA's lack of action against Hibs.




IBROX fan chiefs have blasted the Scottish FA for failing to provide a deterrent against future pitch invasions after they closed the case on the Hampden riots.

Rangers and Hibernian were last night cleared by a Judicial Panel that was reviewing the aftermath of May’s Scottish Cup final that saw thousands of supporters storm the park at the full-time whistle.

More than 70 arrests have been made in recent months after damage was caused to goalposts, advertising boards and the pitch and fights broke out before mounted Police were able to restore order.

Several Rangers players and staff were caught up in the ugly scenes and the Gers board have been highly critical of the SFA for their handling of the situation.

Both clubs were charged under Disciplinary Rule 311 but the case against Rangers was thrown out after it was determined that Hibs would face no further action.

A vote three years ago ruled out the prospect of ‘strict liability’ legislation being introduced but the Light Blue legions have hit out at the SFA’s stance.

Club 1872 spokesman Craig Houston told SportTimes: “The fact that none of the charges mentioned attacking Rangers supporters and players is odd because that would suggest that the SFA don’t see that to be an issue. That is unbelievable.

“The fact that the Vice President of the SFA, Mr Rod Petrie, who is also the chairman of Hibs, commented after the game that it was no more than ‘over-exuberance’ seems to be backed up by these findings.

“Basically the SFA have stated that the behaviour at Hampden that day is unpunishable and the fear is that the floodgates have now opened in terms of what is actually acceptable at a football match.

“There is absolutely nothing to make fans think twice now about running onto the park during a game that the SFA are governing. If there is no punishment to their club, there is nothing to prevent repeats of this going forward.

“Nobody would think that what happened after the cup final is acceptable but the SFA have put nothing in place to prevent it and to deter people going forward.

“People across the world will find it quite astonishing that the investigation found nothing wrong with the reactions of the Hibernian supporters."

And all from a club that are no strangers to pitch invasion, stadia wrecking, and a bit of City pillaging to boot. The The Rangers definitely spawn of Attilla.

[ancient hibee]

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And all from a club that are no strangers to pitch invasion, stadia wrecking, and a bit of City pillaging to boot. The The Rangers definitely spawn of Attilla.

It's not from the club.They've said nothing.

[Baldy Foghorn]

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It's not from the club.They've said nothing.

Supporter's Group Ancient, still the same though, thinking they are whiter than white, when every man and his dog, knows the real truth about them.....

[jax67]

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It's not from the club.They've said nothing.

Ok, supporter of The The Rangers.

[CallumLaidlaw]

Aaaand there it is


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[CallumLaidlaw]

http://rangers.co.uk/news/headlines/...0BMqAI.twitter


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[Bostonhibby]

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Aaaand there it is


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Does it include evidence of the assaults? They really are stoopid. FA just need to send them another copy of the decision and get someone to read it to them.

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[Ants]

Thursday, 29 September 2016, 18:30
by Rangers Football Club

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FOLLOWING yesterday’s Judicial Panel decision Rangers will be demanding urgent clarification from the Scottish FA over how they intend ensuring the safety of players and officials participating in this season’s Scottish Cup. The Club has been left shocked by the SFA’s approach to this vital safety issue and by the decision not to seek sanctions in respect of the assaults by Hibernian supporters on Rangers players and officials at the end of the Cup Final last May.

The Scottish FA must have a basic duty of care to ensure the safety of players and officials in matches played in their competitions and at Hampden.

Rangers were surprised and disappointed by the nature of the charges brought by the association believing them fundamentally flawed from the outset and cannot understand why the focus seemed to be on compensating the association for damage to Hampden Stadium and items such as advertising hoardings and LED panels rather than ensuring the safety of players and officials. Rangers are concerned that adopting this approach will not dissuade supporters of other Clubs from coming onto the field of play and/or assaulting players and officials.

Rangers were also astonished by the fact Hibernian, whose Chairman Rod Petrie is Vice-president of the Scottish FA, were permitted to engage the SPFL’s solicitor to fight the charges being brought by the SFA. Using the legal adviser to one of Scottish Football’s two governing bodies to defend charges brought by the other is worrying enough for those concerned with the good governance and integrity of Scottish Football, but it is even more disturbing when the party at the centre of the conflict also has a foot in both camps and is scheduled to become the SFA’s President. Rangers are also extremely disappointed at Mr Petrie’s continued failure to issue an apology in respect of the assaults on our players and officials.

At the time of the Cup Final Rangers shared the outrage and concern expressed by the Scottish FA Chief Executive Stewart Regan. He was very clear: ‘It was appalling. In the UK this is one of the worst incidents of its kind I’ve seen.’

However, four months on from the Final, the Scottish FA have still not held a formal de-brief. Sheriff Bowen has prepared and issued a report. Rangers were pleased to provide evidence to Sheriff Bowen and offered guidance from our own very experienced security team on the failings in policing and stewarding at the match. Rangers remain disappointed and concerned that the report did not address many of the issues raised by our security team. The concerns were raised not to attack individuals for what had happened but with a view to avoiding any repetition of these issues. Rangers would hope all of Scottish Football would be united in agreeing this is paramount.

The continued failure to deal properly and promptly with issues surrounding the Cup Final is alarming and a stain on Scottish football. The SFA must confront and learn from the issues that arose. Rangers owe it to our players and supporters to ensure that the Scottish FA’s duty of care is upheld and that those with authority in Scottish Football create a safe environment for the game.

It should be understood Rangers will not tolerate any of their employees being attacked with impunity.

There is only one stain on Scottish Football with their continued ignorant inept statements and also their barred party songs.

[johnbc70]

Fairly tame by their standards.

[MartinfaePorty]

And they now love Stewart Regan, apparently!

[Bishop Hibee]

It's like a mad dog barking at the moon We are all Rod Petrie

[BroxburnHibee]

Please please please let them boycott this year's cup

[Bostonhibby]

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Thursday, 29 September 2016, 18:30
by Rangers Football Club

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FOLLOWING yesterday’s Judicial Panel decision Rangers will be demanding urgent clarification from the Scottish FA over how they intend ensuring the safety of players and officials participating in this season’s Scottish Cup. The Club has been left shocked by the SFA’s approach to this vital safety issue and by the decision not to seek sanctions in respect of the assaults by Hibernian supporters on Rangers players and officials at the end of the Cup Final last May.

The Scottish FA must have a basic duty of care to ensure the safety of players and officials in matches played in their competitions and at Hampden.

Rangers were surprised and disappointed by the nature of the charges brought by the association believing them fundamentally flawed from the outset and cannot understand why the focus seemed to be on compensating the association for damage to Hampden Stadium and items such as advertising hoardings and LED panels rather than ensuring the safety of players and officials. Rangers are concerned that adopting this approach will not dissuade supporters of other Clubs from coming onto the field of play and/or assaulting players and officials.

Rangers were also astonished by the fact Hibernian, whose Chairman Rod Petrie is Vice-president of the Scottish FA, were permitted to engage the SPFL’s solicitor to fight the charges being brought by the SFA. Using the legal adviser to one of Scottish Football’s two governing bodies to defend charges brought by the other is worrying enough for those concerned with the good governance and integrity of Scottish Football, but it is even more disturbing when the party at the centre of the conflict also has a foot in both camps and is scheduled to become the SFA’s President. Rangers are also extremely disappointed at Mr Petrie’s continued failure to issue an apology in respect of the assaults on our players and officials.

At the time of the Cup Final Rangers shared the outrage and concern expressed by the Scottish FA Chief Executive Stewart Regan. He was very clear: ‘It was appalling. In the UK this is one of the worst incidents of its kind I’ve seen.’

However, four months on from the Final, the Scottish FA have still not held a formal de-brief. Sheriff Bowen has prepared and issued a report. Rangers were pleased to provide evidence to Sheriff Bowen and offered guidance from our own very experienced security team on the failings in policing and stewarding at the match. Rangers remain disappointed and concerned that the report did not address many of the issues raised by our security team. The concerns were raised not to attack individuals for what had happened but with a view to avoiding any repetition of these issues. Rangers would hope all of Scottish Football would be united in agreeing this is paramount.

The continued failure to deal properly and promptly with issues surrounding the Cup Final is alarming and a stain on Scottish football. The SFA must confront and learn from the issues that arose. Rangers owe it to our players and supporters to ensure that the Scottish FA’s duty of care is upheld and that those with authority in Scottish Football create a safe environment for the game.

It should be understood Rangers will not tolerate any of their employees being attacked with impunity.

There is only one stain on Scottish Football with their continued ignorant inept statements and also their barred party songs.

They're silly billies but amusing when they are trying to be self righteous.

If only they didn't have all that previous

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[Northernhibee]

3-2 ya roasters

[Dunbar Hibee]

They are seriously making a fool of themselves.

Again.

[Kato]

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Guessing think tank, gravy train, hand wringing, furrowed brows and tutting and then a down with this sort of thing initiative that will go nowhere.

...at best.

[Kato]

Maybe The Rangers should show us the footage of all 6?/11?/48? players being assaulted. Then the PoPo would at least have an inkling as to what happened, can take steps, learn lessons and never let this happen again, as they say.

[Haymaker]

The next Hibs v The Rangers game is going to be ****ing mental.

[Springbank]

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Maybe The Rangers should show us the footage of all 6?/11?/48? players being assaulted. Then the PoPo would at least have an inkling as to what happened, can take steps, learn lessons and never let this happen again, as they say.

Serious question : between 1648 and 1705 hours on 21 May 2016, was there anywhere in Scotland during that 17 minute period that had more cameras trained on it, switched on, recording? I suspect not. And yet none of those cameras, operated by experienced skilful cameramen, captured these alleged rangers player assaults, that rangers official statements keep mentioning? Ok then..

[Real Emerald]

They're stirring up a hornets nest with this and at some point they will step over the line and I hope Hibs and their lawyers are ready to pounce. Talk about drama queens, and the irony of it all just makes you laugh. I hope they keep on stirring because they stand to lose so much more than everyone else if they really want teams to be hammered for the actions of their fans.

A real case of turkey's voting for Christmas, why can't they see this? Oh, I forgot

[Mr White]

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Serious question : between 1648 and 1705 hours on 21 May 2016, was there anywhere in Scotland during that 17 minute period that had more cameras trained on it, switched on, recording? I suspect not. And yet none of those cameras, operated by experienced skilful cameramen, captured these alleged rangers player assaults, that rangers official statements keep mentioning? Ok then..

Indeed. Lots of them captured fans of the rangers committing assault on the pitch but they'd prefer not to acknowledge that. At least not since they claimed these assaults were part of a valiant attempt to defend the new club's players and staff.

[Bostonhibby]

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Serious question : between 1648 and 1705 hours on 21 May 2016, was there anywhere in Scotland during that 17 minute period that had more cameras trained on it, switched on, recording? I suspect not. And yet none of those cameras, operated by experienced skilful cameramen, captured these alleged rangers player assaults, that rangers official statements keep mentioning? Ok then..

Good point, it's a bit like saying to King show us the over investing and untold wealth, there's a trend over there, through several recent owners, where if they say something often enough the orcs will swallow it.

They are doing a controlled exercise to distract away from the reality of the current regime and the results on the park. Its a question of how long before the orcs stop swallow swallowing and start questioning.

[spikeymike]

Rangers were pleased to provide evidence to Sheriff Bowen and offered guidance from our own very experienced security team on the failings in policing and stewarding at the match. Rangers remain disappointed and concerned that the report did not address many of the issues raised by our security team.

Is that the same security team who oversees the safety of the away fans at ibrox!!

[Onion]

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Serious question : between 1648 and 1705 hours on 21 May 2016, was there anywhere in Scotland during that 17 minute period that had more cameras trained on it, switched on, recording? I suspect not. And yet none of those cameras, operated by experienced skilful cameramen, captured these alleged rangers player assaults, that rangers official statements keep mentioning? Ok then..

If assaults had been carried out as claimed by The Rangers, then the Police have a duty to investigate - plain and simple. It goes way beyond simply fining a football club (Hibs) for the transgressions of its fans. Which all suggests that The Rangers accusations are hot air and false.

These Huns are without credibility and an embarrassment to themselves. Pathetic stuff, but entertaining.