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    Quote Originally Posted by southern hibby View Post
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    Not sure about the technicalities or legal aspect of what I'm about to suggest but,,,,,, could Hibs not sue the SFA for legal fees?

    If the SFA's own rules state we were not to blame as our legal team proved could we not sue them under ( let's say negligence on their part) for actually accusing and charging us with something that could never be proven guilty for under their own rules???

    Not sure if this could be done or not but I'd find it highly amusing if we did and won......

    GGTTH
    The club would incur even more legal fees if we did it and lost! Best to draw a line and instead just sit back and enjoy the hun seethe which shows no sign of abating.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Hibs Class View Post
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    The club would incur even more legal fees if we did it and lost! Best to draw a line and instead just sit back and enjoy the hun seethe which shows no sign of abating.
    Totally agree about legal fees being more expensive if we lost but I'm in the camp that we won already due to the SFA's own rules proving we were not at fault so having to then pay legal fees to prove your innocence to me is wrong.

    Also imagine the seeth if we did win lol

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    Quote Originally Posted by southern hibby View Post
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    Totally agree about legal fees being more expensive if we lost but I'm in the camp that we won already due to the SFA's own rules proving we were not at fault so having to then pay legal fees to prove your innocence to me is wrong.

    Also imagine the seeth if we did win lol

    GGTTH
    Is there not some UEFA regulation stopping you from taking legal action against governing bodies. Sure some team (maybe even TheRangers) were threatening it a few years ago

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    £20 donated, worth every penny. GGTTH
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    Leaving aside the allegations of bringing negative publicity to the crowd and the legal costs expended, I would like to speak on behalf of a large number of fans that stayed at their seats.

    To some extent, I can understand that the wave of euphoria overcame some fans and they had an unforgettable time on the pitch, but it was at the expense of others. I sang my heart out at Sunshine on Leith but it would have been so much better had the team been on the pitch parading the Cup. Being in the South Stand, I had a poor view of the presentation and desperately wanted to see a lap of honour. I have wonderful memories of 2007 but this would have been so much better and would have been unforgettable for all Hibs fans.

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    I know 2 millionaires and a Chartered Accountant who were on the pitch. Unforgetable day.

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    Leaving aside the allegations of bringing negative publicity to the crowd and the legal costs expended, I would like to speak on behalf of a large number of fans that stayed at their seats.

    To some extent, I can understand that the wave of euphoria overcame some fans and they had an unforgettable time on the pitch, but it was at the expense of others. I sang my heart out at Sunshine on Leith but it would have been so much better had the team been on the pitch parading the Cup. Being in the South Stand, I had a poor view of the presentation and desperately wanted to see a lap of honour. I have wonderful memories of 2007 but this would have been so much better and would have been unforgettable for all Hibs fans.
    What's done is done.

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    Quote Originally Posted by southsider View Post
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    I know 2 millionaires and a Chartered Accountant who were on the pitch. Unforgetable day.
    Hope you've told them to get their wallets out.


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    The company I work for are employing a top lawyers firm at the moment. I process their bills. They charge by the minute, responding to an email, took 12 minutes, cost £160. That isn't even their top rate (partner) which is £240 for 12 minutes. Now imagine the time and the team of lawyers that have worked in this for Hibs and you can maybe guess what the legal bill has cost us. It will not be insignificant.
    I regularly instruct solicitors and QCs. They don't come cheap. But it is possible to cap the amount by agreeing a fee in advance. That being said a QC costs around £600 per hour. I'm sure LD & RP will have known what our bill was going to be in advance. But again this is an unnecessary expense due to fans invading the pitch.

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    I'm not questioning their charitable generosity, I'm questioning their input to discussions, same drivel just a different day. It's like they have an inferior complex that as if somehow they are more connected to hibs than others its ridiculous
    I'll have you know that my drivel changes on a daily basis.

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    SERIOUSLY!
    Firstly .netters paid for majority of image on side of FF.
    Now this.
    As our club has not budgeted for this.
    Yet we were on the crest of a wave. Last 2 home games have been 4-5 thousand up on previous attendances £££.
    Hibs did not budget for this either. Whose taking the piss here.
    So when did we start referring to our club as 'Hibs'? Surely it's 'We'?

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    Quote Originally Posted by Wilson View Post
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    The last minute winner would have been our finest hour anyway.
    Can understand your view Wilson but not for me. The sight of grandads, lassies, mums and dads with kids on shoulders on the pitch with thousands of others that created an extra special memory. For those of you that stayed in your seats, I totally respect what you did. But I also respect those who celebrated on the field of play. They spoiled nothing.
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    Quote Originally Posted by RIP View Post
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    Can understand your view Wilson but not for me. The sight of grandads, lassies, mums and dads with kids on shoulders on the pitch with thousands of others that created an extra special memory. For those of you that stayed in your seats, I totally respect what you did. But I also respect those who celebrated on the field of play. They spoiled nothing.
    It stopped the Cup being paraded, and has cost the Club a shedload in legal fees.......Nothing clever about the invasion in my view
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    The GFA stopped the cup being paraded stop rounding on your own fans. We were all off the pitch when the cup was lifted. There was no reason but soor grapes they never got to do a lap of honour.
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    Quote Originally Posted by hibee_nation View Post
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    The GFA stopped the cup being paraded stop rounding on your own fans. We were all off the pitch when the cup was lifted. There was no reason but soor grapes they never got to do a lap of honour.
    ok then
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    It stopped the Cup being paraded, and has cost the Club a shedload in legal fees.......Nothing clever about the invasion in my view
    Don't disagree but got to accept it has generated media coverage and daily reminders way, way beyond what we'd have had without it. By now, our historic cup win would have been consigned to history and swept under the carpet by the reluctant media and embarrassed football authorities.

    21 May 2016 was a perfect day. In 20, 30 years time history will recall Sir David Gray's amazing winner, Anthony Stokes destroying The Rangers defence and 25000 Hibs fans celebrating their heads off.

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    I have been pretty vocal on this topic in the past, but it is now well past time to move on IMO.

    There are 2 different points of view on the topic and I don't think anyone from either camp will be changing their's at this stage.

    We can either put that difference behind us and move on or we can continue to bicker over our different views for eternity.

    I am delighted that the matter is officially dealt with and now that the worry of official sanctions is behind us, IMO it is time to focus solely on the cup win and put this division behind us.

    I think it is churlish to carry this on any longer and arguing for arguing's sake.

    I have spent much of the day reviewing the posts relating to the Cup win in the vault and I am as happy and tearful over it now as I was then.

    One of the greatest days of my life and nothing will ever change that.

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    Don't really get the fuss over the lack of a lap of honour. The spontaneous outpouring of emotion that surrounded the pitch invasion was far more powerful than any stage managed players' walkabout could have been. Beyond 'oooohhh, but it didn't look as good on tv' I don't see the issue.

    It was our day. Not the SFA's, or the TV cameras'.

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    Don't really get the fuss over the lack of a lap of honour. The spontaneous outpouring of emotion that surrounded the pitch invasion was far more powerful than any stage managed players' walkabout could have been. Beyond 'oooohhh, but it didn't look as good on tv' I don't see the issue.

    It was our day. Not the SFA's, or the TV cameras'.


    I didn't go on the pitch but the scenes were absolutely fantastic. It was an outpouring of joyous emotion. It's just a pity the hun thugs came on looking for a brawl or the cup could still have been paraded once the pitch had been cleared peacefully.


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    Quote Originally Posted by SunshineOnLeith View Post
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    Don't really get the fuss over the lack of a lap of honour. The spontaneous outpouring of emotion that surrounded the pitch invasion was far more powerful than any stage managed players' walkabout could have been. Beyond 'oooohhh, but it didn't look as good on tv' I don't see the issue.

    It was our day. Not the SFA's, or the TV cameras'.
    Couldnt agree more mate!

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    Has the appeal raised the money required yet? £5 grand isn't much between the 2-3,000 that were on the pitch?

    The thing I've noticed, is that watching YouTube videos of our cup wins I still much prefer watching the aftermath of the league cup. That was such a special occasion seeing the players and John Collins soaking up the adulation of the crowd.

    I tend not to watch the Scottish cup videos beyond the final whistle which is a shame

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    Trying to donate, but when I click on 'donate' the page comes up and then shoots away in a second ... could just be my computer, anybody else getting that?

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    Has the appeal raised the money required yet? £5 grand isn't much between the 2-3,000 that were on the pitch?

    The thing I've noticed, is that watching YouTube videos of our cup wins I still much prefer watching the aftermath of the league cup. That was such a special occasion seeing the players and John Collins soaking up the adulation of the crowd.

    I tend not to watch the Scottish cup videos beyond the final whistle which is a shame


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    If it's any consolation scoopy, I heard from someone at work who knows Mr petri that we were expecting to get hammered and that weeks worth of work had been thrown into our defence, often at the detriment of other

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    Quote Originally Posted by SunshineOnLeith View Post
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    Don't really get the fuss over the lack of a lap of honour. The spontaneous outpouring of emotion that surrounded the pitch invasion was far more powerful than any stage managed players' walkabout could have been. Beyond 'oooohhh, but it didn't look as good on tv' I don't see the issue.

    It was our day. Not the SFA's, or the TV cameras'.
    Disagree. Maybe 5,000 people (at a push) were on the pitch, but deprived 15,000 of seeing it paraded and have cost the club a fortune.

    Did it spoil my day? No, it didn't. Would I have liked to have seen the trophy taken round? Yes absolutely.

    I fully understand why people went on the pitch, but the lack of thought for other people which continues is staggering.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Onceinawhile View Post
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    If it's any consolation scoopy, I heard from someone at work who knows Mr petri that we were expecting to get hammered and that weeks worth of work had been thrown into our defence, often at the detriment of other
    It was from within Easter Road that I got the info that we had expected a dull one and that the legal costs were high already.

    I'm more than comfortable that we have escaped with a legal bill and the repair bill to be footed.

    As others have pointed out the money raised from the Scottish Cup pictures and increased attendances at our League matches will have easily taken care of the legal bill.

    If we had lost the final we wouldn't have sold nearly 11,000 seasons, made a whack from the photos and wouldn't have had as many walk ups to League matches which has seen us average 15,000.

    Therefore I calculate we are in front. The most pleasing thing from my point of view with the pitch invasion is that we have upset the cream buns no end and their seethe is most enjoyable.

    Most important thing of all of course in all this is the fact we won the Scottish Cup.

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    Did 'financially crippling' come from within Easter Road or was that your own flourish?

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    Quote Originally Posted by NAE NOOKIE View Post
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    Trying to donate, but when I click on 'donate' the page comes up and then shoots away in a second ... could just be my computer, anybody else getting that?
    So far only107 fans have contributed on the just giving site and we have only reached 34 % of our total target I make a contribution after the Club had paid the bill so it was working fine then

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    I can only take it that folk giving it the "I told you so" about the final outcome of all this were aware from the start about the inconsistency between Rule 28 and Article 28? I admire that knowledge, but I'm not so impressed that they weren't shouting this out weeks ago. We could have avoided loads of admin hassle if they had.
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