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    McGeough injured again

    As much I like DM when he actually plays butvI'm reaching the conclusion that he's not worth a wage. I've said in other threads that being the best player in the stand is no use. I think it's time we moved him on if we can find someone to take him.
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    Give away our best player.

    Brilliant strategy my man.

    Straight from the Jambo football school of footballing philosophy of sacking George Burley and replacing him with a convicted sex offender.

    I can just see it now, 'and it's Adam Johnson to deliiiiiiiiiiver'
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    DM playing 15 games every season makes him worth the wage. I'd be quite happy if we never get rid of him.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Ergye View Post
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    Give away our best player.

    Brilliant strategy my man.

    Straight from the Jambo football school of footballing philosophy of sacking George Burley and replacing him with a convicted sex offender.

    I can just see it now, 'and it's Adam Johnson to deliiiiiiiiiiver
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    You certainly don't want to be on the receiving end of anything he delivers.

    As for Dylan, I agree with everyone else. One of our best players, not as injury-prone as people make out and it would be madness to just give him away.

    Oh, and he's a legend.

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    There's no denying the guy has his injury problems, but letting him go would be madness. He is arguably the best player we have and if we can find a way to get him past all these niggling injuries we would be able to ask north of a million quid for him if anybody came calling.

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    He's quite simply one of our best players. Against St Midden he controlled the game and was his usual influential self. Yes, he appears to have some injury faults, but suggesting to get rid of him is unjustifiable. The damage he can do to opposing teams is one of the primary reasons we will win the league. Lennon has brought in cover in the more than capable Mr Shinnie. Sit back and enjoy.................

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    As much I like DM when actually plays I'm reaching the conclusion that he's not worth a wage. I've said in other threads that being the best player in the stand is no use. I think it's time we moved him on if we can find someone to take him.
    He's played in sixty-odd games for us in the last two seasons.

    There's no denying he picks up injuries and there's also no denying that the way he plays makes him probably the most fouled player we have.

    Nevertheless, the injury thing is at risk of becoming overstated and I fear the perception is getting in the way of the facts. If you are averaging thirty appearances a season, then you're not exactly sitting in the stand.

    No player is irreplaceable but Dylan is the heartbeat of the team - on his game, he brings everyone else in and allows us to be our best.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Mibbes Aye View Post
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    He's played in sixty-odd games for us in the last two seasons.

    There's no denying he picks up injuries and there's also no denying that the way he plays makes him probably the most fouled player we have.

    Nevertheless, the injury thing is at risk of becoming overstated and I fear the perception is getting in the way of the facts. If you are averaging thirty appearances a season, then you're not exactly sitting in the stand.

    No player is irreplaceable but Dylan is the heartbeat of the team - on his game, he brings everyone else in and allows us to be our best.

    I think you've misread Wiki here Mibbes, Dylan has played 39 league games for Hibs in the last 2 seasons plus 17 in various cups. Even at 56 games over 2 seasons is worth the wage for a player of his influence, yes we only get around half a season out of him but is that not what you have a squad for.

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    Quote Originally Posted by J-C View Post
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    I think you've misread Wiki here Mibbes, Dylan has played 39 league games for Hibs in the last 2 seasons plus 17 in various cups. Even at 56 games over 2 seasons is worth the wage for a player of his influence, yes we only get around half a season out of him but is that not what you have a squad for.
    This, 100%

    Injuries are part of the game and - maybe for the first time yesterday - I didnt think we really missed DM. Which is a great problem to have !

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    Quote Originally Posted by green day View Post
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    This, 100%

    Injuries are part of the game and - maybe for the first time yesterday - I didnt think we really missed DM. Which is a great problem to have !
    That's the amazing thing, we didn't and I'd be happy with that defence again. Mcgeouch is class though and I'm still hoping he can put these problems behind him. If he does, we have a hell of a side

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    Quote Originally Posted by J-C View Post
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    I think you've misread Wiki here Mibbes, Dylan has played 39 league games for Hibs in the last 2 seasons plus 17 in various cups. Even at 56 games over 2 seasons is worth the wage for a player of his influence, yes we only get around half a season out of him but is that not what you have a squad for.
    I'm a big fan of Dylan's but based on those stats he's missed around half our league games over the past 2 years and it's questionable how many of those he's played at 100% fitness. I recall him having to come of numerous times early and/or playing with a niggle. Lets hope yesterday was precautionary as a fully fit Mcgeouch is a very valuable asset!

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    He's played in sixty-odd games for us in the last two seasons.

    There's no denying he picks up injuries and there's also no denying that the way he plays makes him probably the most fouled player we have.

    Nevertheless, the injury thing is at risk of becoming overstated and I fear the perception is getting in the way of the facts. If you are averaging thirty appearances a season, then you're not exactly sitting in the stand.

    No player is irreplaceable but Dylan is the heartbeat of the team - on his game, he brings everyone else in and allows us to be our best.
    Excellent post.

    There's a distinct lack of actual debate on here right now with witty retorts like "That's sh**te" and no attempt to argue the point at hand.
    Refreshing to see a calmly put difference of opinion with some actual facts in it :)

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    He's played in 39 league games in 2 seasons, some as a sub and some not completed. When he is fit and playing he links the play up brilliantly but the point I'm making is there better out there for his wage who could play more than 50% of the league matches. Previously he played 8 league games at Coventry and 20 games for Celtic's 1st team. So in his career he's only played 67 league games since 2011.

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    He's played in sixty-odd games for us in the last two seasons.

    There's no denying he picks up injuries and there's also no denying that the way he plays makes him probably the most fouled player we have.

    Nevertheless, the injury thing is at risk of becoming overstated and I fear the perception is getting in the way of the facts. If you are averaging thirty appearances a season, then you're not exactly sitting in the stand.

    No player is irreplaceable but Dylan is the heartbeat of the team - on his game, he brings everyone else in and allows us to be our best.
    In how many of those games did he play 90 mins my guess is not many. Great player but he needs to play more often. I wonder if a lot his injuries are mental scars.
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    In how many of those games did he play 90 mins my guess is not many. Great player but he needs to play more often. I wonder if a lot his injuries are mental scars.
    They're not.They are all caused by the same thing.

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    Quote Originally Posted by ancient hibee View Post
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    They're not.They are all caused by the same thing.
    The media have previously reported that he has had groin strain issue. You might as well say what you've heard given that you are all but naming a chronic condition?

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    The media have previously reported that he has had groin strain issue. You might as well say what you've heard given that you are all but naming a chronic condition?

    Some form of pelvic alignment problem.

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    I said in the original post there's no point in being the best player in the stand. As has been pointed out by other posters, guys like Shinnie are more than capable of filling the void. I just think it's time to cut our losses and move him on

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    I said in the original post there's no point in being the best player in the stand. As has been pointed out by other posters, guys like Shinnie are more than capable of filling the void. I just think it's time to cut our losses and move him on
    What losses are those? He has been worth every penny we've ever paid him.

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    Quote Originally Posted by lucky View Post
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    I said in the original post there's no point in being the best player in the stand. As has been pointed out by other posters, guys like Shinnie are more than capable of filling the void. I just think it's time to cut our losses and move him on
    But as has also been pointed out within this thread he is playing more often than not. Take last season where he played 30 games for us, Fyvie only played in 32 and was here right from the get go whereas McGeouch didn't arrive until we were 4 games into the season. Already this season Fyvie has missed more games through injury than McGeouch so would you also be keen to get rid of Fyvie due to his injury troubles?

    I understand the frustration surrounding McGeouch's injury problems but think the issue is exacerbated due to the manner in which he misses games where he seems as if he's fine for a short period then is suddenly missing from the team once more. However, we look a better team with him in it, in my opinion, and if he can make us a better team for 30 games a season then I'm more than happy to put up with his injury-proneness and I think it would be madness to get rid of a player that has such undoubted quality

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    McGeough is a class player that we need to try and keep. I'd rest him up for games like today in order to keep him fit for when we need him.

    United we stand here....

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    Quote Originally Posted by lord bunberry View Post
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    McGeough is a class player that we need to try and keep. I'd rest him up for games like today in order to keep him fit for when we need him.
    This. Carefully managed McGeouch is a wonderful asset to Hibs. If anything his tendency to miss the odd game (as has been pointed out its nowhere near as bad as perceived) may be a blessing in disguise for Hibs, if not DM himself. The large English Championship club (say a Wolves or a Brighton) that should in theory be his next destination will be less keen than they otherwise would, meaning Hibs should hold onto him for longer.

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    We have unearthed a real diamond of our own and there is a wee chip on one of the edges. The rest of it must be valueless too then. Aye right.....

    Jeezo, some folk just need to complain about something. Anything in fact......

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    Quote Originally Posted by lucky View Post
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    As much I like DM when he actually plays butvI'm reaching the conclusion that he's not worth a wage. I've said in other threads that being the best player in the stand is no use. I think it's time we moved him on if we can find someone to take him.

    Delete your account and never come back.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Salt N Sauzee View Post
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    Delete your account and never come back.
    Why would I do that? Really my opinion is just that but yours is what? Try to bully people of a fans forum for having an opinion. You not like what I've posted but using your style of debate is anyone who differs from you must never post again.

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    Quote Originally Posted by lucky View Post
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    Why would I do that? Really my opinion is just that but yours is what? Try to bully people of a fans forum for having an opinion. You not like what I've posted but using your style of debate is anyone who differs from you must never post again.
    Well said. I also disagree with what you originally said, but you are allowed an opinion.

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    Quote Originally Posted by lucky View Post
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    Why would I do that? Really my opinion is just that but yours is what? Try to bully people of a fans forum for having an opinion. You not like what I've posted but using your style of debate is anyone who differs from you must never post again.
    Haha hardly bullying mate. I actually thought you were trolling initially. Just strongly disagree with punting arguably one of our best players because he's been unfortunate with injuries. Think it's wrong whenever fans turn on players for things like that.

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    Delete your account and never come back.
    Playing the man and not the ball there.
    Far too much of that on here.

    He's entitled to an opinion so why not tell him why you think it's wrong?

    For what it's worth I agree with what I assume your position is: it would be a bad decision to move him on - McGeogh is a class player and his time injured is not as bad as folk maybe perceive.

    That said, it's annoyingly regular time out with a few games here and a few there and it stops him putting together a run in the team which is disruptive not just to the player but the squad itself - we don't want a replacement who is an obvious lower level understudy but it's hard to imagine any good quality replacement responding well to yo-yoing in and out of the starting XI due to McGeogh's little niggles.

    Arguments boths sides but we badly need to get beyond the idea on here that "Shut up, you know nothing about football" is a reasonable comeback.

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    what a ridiculous thread to start...dearie me. our best player who wouldnt be with us if he didnt have these wee niggles...and a cup winning legend. According to EEN he had a MINOR knock yesterday...perhaps Lennon is managing it properly and rested him yesterday

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    A few grumpy folk on here this morning!!

    The OP just offered his thoughts and wasn't complaining or slating Dylan. Lighten up

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