Anyone bought anything from Sports Direct?

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Seems a perfect fit for Ibrox ....

[Bishop Hibee]

Loads in the past. Best range of kids stuff with lowest prices to match. A lot of these companies make a mockery of employment law. I know from first hand accounts that too many hours worked, working without a break etc are commonplace in retail, catering, bars etc.

The government needs to tighten and enforce employment law, not rely on whistleblowers and public pressure to bring malpractice to light.

[Spudster]

Also applies to USC and Cruise as they use the same warehousing (same company)

[IrnBru22]

They've just bought the lease for the HMV unit on Princes Street, so there will be a Sports Direct opening there soon.

[Hibs Class]

The comparison with Victorian workhouses may be accurate but it seems a little dated. A better, more contemporary comparison would be with how workers in other countries are treated today, whether it is producing cheap products for supermarkets etc. or branded items which sell for grossly inflated amounts. Any analysis of the market has to look at the entire supply chain, and attach similar values to foreign workers as it does to UK workers.

[heretoday]

Apparently the BHS store is to become a hotel. They'll not have to look far for bedside lights and that.

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They've just bought the lease for the HMV unit on Princes Street, so there will be a Sports Direct opening there soon.

HMV closing then?

[Keith_M]

I bought a "Rangers Treble 2016" T-Shirt from them in May.

[hibsbollah]

The Victorians get a hard time eh? I blame Dickens.

There were plenty of reasonable employers; David Dale who founded New Lanark and Robert Owen were utopian socialists who provided paid breaks and holidays, free education, food and heating for their employers and they got a day off for their birthday! I bet they'd be furious at always being compared with genuine ****s like Ashley.

[lord bunberry]

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The Victorians get a hard time eh? I blame Dickens.

There were plenty of reasonable employers; David Dale who founded New Lanark and Robert Owen were utopian socialists who provided paid breaks and holidays, free education, food and heating for their employers and they got a day off for their birthday! I bet they'd be furious at always being compared with genuine ****s like Ashley.

New Lanark is a fantastic place to visit, the whole story surrounding it is fascinating. I'd forgotten all about it. I will definitely be taking the wee one there during the school holidays. Thanks for reminding me.

[WoreTheGreen]

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The comparison with Victorian workhouses may be accurate but it seems a little dated. A better, more contemporary comparison would be with how workers in other countries are treated today, whether it is producing cheap products for supermarkets etc. or branded items which sell for grossly inflated amounts. Any analysis of the market has to look at the entire supply chain, and attach similar values to foreign workers as it does to UK workers.

Mybe so but the groul served in the canteen is not the best!

[Pretty Boy]

The problem here is the only way this will change is if it's consumer led, the government aren't going to do anything. Tory MPs are probably in admiration of Ashley.

That places the burden on those who are shopping in Sports Direct for the value aspect. Say a family of 4 has saved to afford a foreign holiday and they can go to Sports Direct or Primark and get a T shirt for a fiver or pay £20 in another high street store; morally they may want to make 1 choice, financially it's the other.

[Callum7]

I went in to sports direct the other day. It was boiling, they have no air conditioning at all! They're losing a lot of business all because Mike Ashley's to cheap to pay for an AC.

[lord bunberry]

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The problem here is the only way this will change is if it's consumer led, the government aren't going to do anything. Tory MPs are probably in admiration of Ashley.

That places the burden on those who are shopping in Sports Direct for the value aspect. Say a family of 4 has saved to afford a foreign holiday and they can go to Sports Direct or Primark and get a T shirt for a fiver or pay £20 in another high street store; morally they may want to make 1 choice, financially it's the other.

It's never going to be consumer led for the reasons you laid out. I suppose it's the same principle as companies that avoid tax. Media pressure is what will probably lead to a change in attitude of companies like Sports Direct, government will as usual pay lip service to the issue and do nothing.

[Hibernia&Alba]

I hate Ashley and all his race to the bottom exploitation represents. Sub-human, IMHO.

[Hibernia&Alba]

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The problem here is the only way this will change is if it's consumer led, the government aren't going to do anything. Tory MPs are probably in admiration of Ashley.

That places the burden on those who are shopping in Sports Direct for the value aspect. Say a family of 4 has saved to afford a foreign holiday and they can go to Sports Direct or Primark and get a T shirt for a fiver or pay £20 in another high street store; morally they may want to make 1 choice, financially it's the other.

A false choice. The 'market' demeans all and forces false choices. Solidarity and a rejection of divide and rule prevents this dichotomy in what is an individualistic system. I will not be an atomised economic unit in a system that demands I trample others for my gain. The moment we reject the notion that the market is always right is the moment we progress. What is this 'market' and who does it serve?

[Pretty Boy]

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A false choice. The 'market' demeans all and forces false choices. Solidarity and a rejection of divide and rule prevents this dichotomy in what is an individualistic system. I will not be an atomised economic unit in a system that demands I trample others for my gain. The moment we reject the notion that the market is always right is the moment we progress. What is this 'market' and who does it serve?

I wasn't saying I agreed with my hypothetical scenario, I'm just being realistic.

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[Mcpakeisgod]

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New Lanark is a fantastic place to visit, the whole story surrounding it is fascinating. I'd forgotten all about it. I will definitely be taking the wee one there during the school holidays. Thanks for reminding me.

There's a flashback, got taken their at primary school, still remember it like it was yesterday, great place and the guides there were fantastic

[Hibernia&Alba]

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I wasn't saying I agreed with my hypothetical scenario, I'm just being realistic.

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I know that, you're a good guy; I was just putting the question out there. What an existence.

[greenginger]

I don't think MP's should be lecturing anyone about Dickensian working practices.


http://www.mirror.co.uk/news/uk-news...ocrisy-6260279

[Hibbyradge]

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It's never going to be consumer led for the reasons you laid out.

The truth is, it's already consumer led.

[Hibernia&Alba]

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The truth is, it's already consumer led.

To consume - so we define ourselves by what we use and exhaust. I'm sick and tired of this.

[lord bunberry]

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The truth is, it's already consumer led.

It is and that's why Ashley is so rich. If you want a change in workers rights it won't be consumer led. The consumer for the most part can't afford to have principles.

[monktonharp]

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A false choice. The 'market' demeans all and forces false choices. Solidarity and a rejection of divide and rule prevents this dichotomy in what is an individualistic system. I will not be an atomised economic unit in a system that demands I trample others for my gain. The moment we reject the notion that the market is always right is the moment we progress. What is this 'market' and who does it serve?

well said and well asked, comrade. some people have no values, when the only values the have is themselves

[jgl07]

I recall going into Sports Direct on Sauchiehall Street many years ago, after a colleague alerted to me that they had a sale on. The place resembled a surplus stock clearance sale. I ended up buying two pairs of trainers and some walking boots. They were all branded and very cheap. Scroll on a year or two and I wanted to replace the trainers. I went back and purchased two pairs of branded trainers. Very soon I noticed that the goods were nothing like the quality of my previous purchases.

I eventually found out from a Newcastle supporting colleague that Mike Ashley bought out the established brands concerned - Dunlop, Slazenger, etc - and produced crap with a respected brand name. They fell apart very quickly. I have not been back in since.

[tamig]

Have bought tons of stuff from them both online and in store. Great deals and decent customer service. So from a consumer perspective, absolutely no complaints from me.

[Ozyhibby]

With near full employment, why don't the sports direct employees look for jobs with other companies?


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[jgl07]

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With near full employment, why don't the sports direct employees look for jobs with other companies?

Near full employment?

What planet are you on?

The official (rather dubious) unemployment figure is 1.7 million.

Too many of the alleged 'jobs' are zero hours contracts on minimum pay.

Except that many, including Sports Direct, do not pay the minimum living wage. Security checks are not included in paid hours. Just why anyone would be so desperate to nick the crap Sports Direct sell is beyond me. A lot of care workers who have to travel from client to client are not paid for the travel time.

[Jack]

My daughter worked for SD for years.

She quite enjoyed it. I might suggest a lot of the moans she did have could be found in almost any workplace and mainly around individual managers promoted beyond their ability.

[NORTHERNHIBBY]

Levein and Neilson go there for their tactics.