The SNP didn't give the Scottish voter a clear plan either apart from it will be alright trust us... oil will trade at $133 a barrel.
You won't agree with this but the Scottish government white paper on independence, errors and all, makes the leave/Tory govt look like the Trumpton town council. No plans, no idea and nonsense rhetoric, £350m per week to the NHS anyone, totally embarrassing that folk in this country were taken in by this bunch of twats who still believe that there is an empire all falling over themselves to trade with the mother country and that the centre of the world is England.
It's clear the "Hard Brexiteers" are pushing their own agenda on this. The UK as a whole voted 52% for, 48% against so to my mind the combined population voted for a "Soft Brexit".
That's not taking into account that the leave side had illegal extra spending on the campaign... I wonder what the split would have been without that extra push from the leave side?
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Well who knows really as the vote didnít clarifying what Brexit was in the question that was asked.
However I honestly think that in general the vote should be considered at its simplest of terms...to leave the EU and therefore by implication most of its rules and restrictions.
So to some degree I see the hard Brexit point. Thatís not to say I see it as correct but just as valid a position as the softies and even more valid than those who want to cancel or abandon as very clearly that wasnít the decision of the vote.
It is however hilarious how pathetic all sides have been in the negotiations so far and the Tories most so. May has been waaay out of her depth the moment she took the job and is almost unbelievably incapable of managing any situation no matter one this grand!
Finally Brexit has woken up and we should see some fun and games now. Iím sure all sides think itís still all to play for..
We should all be slightly worried tonight. What is unfolding before us has nothing to do with whatís good for any of us. Itís about whatís politically acceptable to a select few with a vested interest.
We should all be slightly worried tonight. What is unfolding before us has nothing to do with what’s good for any of us. It’s about what’s politically acceptable to a select few with a vested interest.
This is so very true.
Under every scenario of the Government's own impact assessments, the country will be worse off after Brexit.
The only question is how much worse off will we be?
Which reminds me - Davis should have been sacked after he lied to the parliament and to the country over the impact assessments.
It's appalling that he neither resigned nor was sacked over that episode.
I hope David Cameron feels guilty as sin right now. He caused this with his weakness, his panic about UKIP and gambling the countries future on a party dispute. From the other side the whole thing was about getting Gove or Johnson into number 10 from the outset. They were terrified when they realised they had won as they never really thought they would.
I've really no idea where we go from here. The only opposition to Brexit is from minority parties, a few erseholes who will be sheltered from the worst effects are going to force through a disastrous hard Brexit. Crazy.
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It's a complete shambles, the Tories are self-serving ********s and the whole thing came about from Cameron trying to appease some vocal and influential Tories and stop them defecting to UKIP. He gambled, it backfired, and we're all facing the consequences - even now we're at the mercy of some Etonian pricks' game playing to meet their own ends.
Corbyn had the opportunity to stick it to the Tories but his pro-Brexit stance has ****ed that up for them.
For a lot of folk, there are very few areas to notably differentiate between the parties, and with the leader of the opposition going along with the Brexit shambles it leaves folk with nowhere to go.
I see 2 Tory "vice chairs" have also resigned, I think it's quite telling that almost every quote mentions the the deal is bad for the party.... they do also mention "country" but not quite as much that I've read across the various news outlets.
The whole thing is a shameful farce, but I can't help but feel that May is actually stronger now, that she has faced them down and called their bluff about a leadership election.
It seems, as someone pointed out above, that there is no majority in parliament for a 'hard Brexit and so their only way of getting that is to force a GE and hope their vision wins a mandate, which would be hugely risky.
Also, the mood music coming from EU leaders seems to be softening a tad too- maybe May will come out of all this latest round of shenanigans stronger to deliver a fairly soft Brexit?