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    #Persevered
    Scotland can be a beacon, within these islands and beyond, for a socially just and sustainable society. Whilst there are many priorities which will require independence, there is also much that can and must be done now by the Scottish Parliament and the Scottish Government.


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    Some sense in the middle of the Theresa Mayhem

    https://twitter.com/ChrisMasonBBC/st...487066624?s=19
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    Scotland can be a beacon, within these islands and beyond, for a socially just and sustainable society. Whilst there are many priorities which will require independence, there is also much that can and must be done now by the Scottish Parliament and the Scottish Government.

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    Every politician has a part to play in this mess. Having someone leading the negotiations who doesn't believe in the principle is simply bonkers. The fact that people in this country are doing all they can to make sure we get a ***** deal is a disgrace.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Ozyhibby View Post
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    I think if there is another vote then the type of leave we are asked to vote on should be on the ballot paper.
    If it’s a hard brexit then say so.
    Many were seduced by the thought that we would have an amazing trade deal while getting rid of the democratic deficit that exists with the EU. That no longer exists and it should be made clear what we are voting on next time.


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    That's what I think might end up happening. The vote on the deal will lose, the government won't have a second option prepared within the time frame after failing to get any concessions from Europe and we'll then have a "no deal or no Brexit" referendum.

    What happens afterwards is anyone's guess, but I can't see it being amicable regardless. In fact, the only positive I can think of in favour of Brexit is that the only way out of this mess would be to try it and it actually working out okay.
    Mon the Hibs.

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    Quote Originally Posted by beensaidbefore View Post
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    The fact that people in this country are doing all they can to make sure we get a ***** deal is a disgrace.
    Perhaps a ***** deal is all that's available.

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    Perhaps a ***** deal is all that's available.
    If we had pulled together from the start I think we would have been in a far better position now. If my auntie and all that, but I'm just saddened by the whole thing. It seems that party politics and point scoring is more important than getting our heads together and doing the best for everyone.

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    Quote Originally Posted by beensaidbefore View Post
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    If we had pulled together from the start I think we would have been in a far better position now.
    There's no way I'm going to lift a finger to assist the country commit economic suicide.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Colr View Post
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    What are the chances of Labour making ground in Scotland against the SNP given their stance on Brexit and general performance?


    SCOTTISH Labour will be wiped out at the next election if Jeremy Corbynfails to oppose Brexit, a new poll has revealed.
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    The YouGov survey of 2196 Scots, carried out for the People’s Vote campaign, suggests support for Richard Leonard and colleagues would plummet to just 15%, with a quarter of Labour voters switching to the SNP.
    One Labour MP described the shock news as a “real wake up call” for Corbyn.
    The poll, carried out as part of a UK-wide survey of 25000 people, found that currently, the SNP have the support of 40% of voters, while the Tories are on 25%, Labour on 21% and the LibDems on 8%.
    But the poll suggested that if Labour voted “with the Tories to bring about Brexit,” their share of the vote would slump 6 points to 15%, 28 points behind the SNP, who would move up to 43%, And even if Corbyn gives his MPs a free vote on Theresa May’s Brexit deal, support would still collapse to around 16%.
    In both situations the Tory vote share remains roughly the same.
    Labour’s Ged Killen, who narrowly won Rutherglen and Hamilton West from the SNP in 2017, said his party would be punished if they failed to oppose Brexit: “This poll is a real wake-up call for the Labour leadership and is a warning not to appease the Government over Brexit.



    personally, i'm disgusted Slab would even get in to double figures




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    Quote Originally Posted by cabbageandribs1875 View Post
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    SCOTTISH Labour will be wiped out at the next election if Jeremy Corbynfails to oppose Brexit, a new poll has revealed.
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    The YouGov survey of 2196 Scots, carried out for the People’s Vote campaign, suggests support for Richard Leonard and colleagues would plummet to just 15%, with a quarter of Labour voters switching to the SNP.
    One Labour MP described the shock news as a “real wake up call” for Corbyn.
    The poll, carried out as part of a UK-wide survey of 25000 people, found that currently, the SNP have the support of 40% of voters, while the Tories are on 25%, Labour on 21% and the LibDems on 8%.
    But the poll suggested that if Labour voted “with the Tories to bring about Brexit,” their share of the vote would slump 6 points to 15%, 28 points behind the SNP, who would move up to 43%, And even if Corbyn gives his MPs a free vote on Theresa May’s Brexit deal, support would still collapse to around 16%.
    In both situations the Tory vote share remains roughly the same.
    Labour’s Ged Killen, who narrowly won Rutherglen and Hamilton West from the SNP in 2017, said his party would be punished if they failed to oppose Brexit: “This poll is a real wake-up call for the Labour leadership and is a warning not to appease the Government over Brexit.



    personally, i'm disgusted Slab would even get in to double figures




    I can't comment on the precise figures, but it seems clear that Labour will suffer a heavy loss of support, and not just in Scotland, if they don't oppose Brexit.

    I can't imagine that the party will allow that to happen.
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    I can't comment on the precise figures, but it seems clear that Labour will suffer a heavy loss of support, and not just in Scotland, if they don't oppose Brexit.

    I can't imagine that the party will allow that to happen.
    Vacancy:

    Political party desperately seeks leader.
    The successful candidate will not only be the leader of the opposition, he/she will also act on what the large majority of party members want etc etc.

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    Get a new leader (Yvette Cooper?), oppose brexit and offer to revoke article 50 and labour wins a landslide victory in GE.
    Don’t and suffer a humiliating defeat to this Tory govt.
    Seems mad that they are going for the latter but that’s the Labour Party. Happy in opposition.


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    Quote Originally Posted by cabbageandribs1875 View Post
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    SCOTTISH Labour will be wiped out at the next election if Jeremy Corbynfails to oppose Brexit, a new poll has revealed.
    50 comments
    The YouGov survey of 2196 Scots, carried out for the People’s Vote campaign, suggests support for Richard Leonard and colleagues would plummet to just 15%, with a quarter of Labour voters switching to the SNP.
    One Labour MP described the shock news as a “real wake up call” for Corbyn.
    The poll, carried out as part of a UK-wide survey of 25000 people, found that currently, the SNP have the support of 40% of voters, while the Tories are on 25%, Labour on 21% and the LibDems on 8%.
    But the poll suggested that if Labour voted “with the Tories to bring about Brexit,” their share of the vote would slump 6 points to 15%, 28 points behind the SNP, who would move up to 43%, And even if Corbyn gives his MPs a free vote on Theresa May’s Brexit deal, support would still collapse to around 16%.
    In both situations the Tory vote share remains roughly the same.
    Labour’s Ged Killen, who narrowly won Rutherglen and Hamilton West from the SNP in 2017, said his party would be punished if they failed to oppose Brexit: “This poll is a real wake-up call for the Labour leadership and is a warning not to appease the Government over Brexit.



    personally, i'm disgusted Slab would even get in to double figures




    Why would Labour pander to a couple of seats in Scotland when there's more to lose in England if they do so?

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    Quote Originally Posted by Hibrandenburg View Post
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    Why would Labour pander to a couple of seats in Scotland when there's more to lose in England if they do so?
    Because if Scotland gains Independence they lose their traditional Scottish power base in parliament forever?

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    Quote Originally Posted by 1875godsgift View Post
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    Because if Scotland gains Independence they lose their traditional Scottish power base in parliament forever?
    So what? Regardless of which partly holds the majority in Scotland it makes no meaningful difference to the outcome at Westminster.
    This is arguably the most important reason why Scotland should be free to make its own decisions - like most normal countries.

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    Quote Originally Posted by 1875godsgift View Post
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    Because if Scotland gains Independence they lose their traditional Scottish power base in parliament forever?
    Labour need to plan not to have Scottish MPS anyway.

    They only have 7 out of 59 MPs. In 2015 they had 1!

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    Quote Originally Posted by Moulin Yarns View Post
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    This, for me, is another big sign that the traditional Tory vs Labour political divide is becoming less and less relevant to the British people. It won't surprise me at all if both of those parties break up and new, more relevant, blocs form over the next decade.

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    And now they have cancelled pancake day.
    #Persevered
    Scotland can be a beacon, within these islands and beyond, for a socially just and sustainable society. Whilst there are many priorities which will require independence, there is also much that can and must be done now by the Scottish Parliament and the Scottish Government.

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    As for that self-styled Frodo, David Cameron, we are still unable to quantify how wrong his plan to destroy the ring has gone, other than to say the Shire is now primarily a vast Orc brothel.
    https://www.theguardian.com/commenti...ow-car-sticker

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    Quote Originally Posted by beensaidbefore View Post
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    If we had pulled together from the start I think we would have been in a far better position now. If my auntie and all that, but I'm just saddened by the whole thing. It seems that party politics and point scoring is more important than getting our heads together and doing the best for everyone.
    How would that have made any difference? Government with a miniscule majority backed by DUP, there was alwaus going to be huge scrutiny on the deal she came back with.

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    Quote Originally Posted by JeMeSouviens View Post
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    I can't believe Marina Hyde has stolen my thing of making Brexit into Tolkein metaphors ****in' plagiarism

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    I can't believe Marina Hyde has stolen my thing of making Brexit into Tolkein metaphors ****in' plagiarism
    Wonder what her username is?

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    Quote Originally Posted by HomeTeam View Post
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    Yes your type underneath their surface are all about rounding up the perceived outsiders or anyone who doesn't agree with you should be rounded up and expelled.

    How very progressive and inclusive off you.

    We reach out to our yellow vest brothers and sisters in France and across Europe! Mon the European spring!

    Viva La vest!!!


    Some of the things these yellow vest brothers of yours stand for are really quite disgusting.



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    Quote Originally Posted by Ozyhibby View Post
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    Some of the things these yellow vest brothers of yours stand for are really quite disgusting.



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    Who pays into a Pention?

    Some getting arrested now.

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    #Persevered
    Scotland can be a beacon, within these islands and beyond, for a socially just and sustainable society. Whilst there are many priorities which will require independence, there is also much that can and must be done now by the Scottish Parliament and the Scottish Government.

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    Some of the things these yellow vest brothers of yours stand for are really quite disgusting.



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    They need a wee bit help with their marketing I'll give you that!

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    Quote Originally Posted by HomeTeam View Post
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    They need a wee bit help with their marketing I'll give you that!
    And their spelling.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Ozyhibby View Post
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    Some of the things these yellow vest brothers of yours stand for are really quite disgusting.



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    It's hard to get any more populist than that.

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    Quote Originally Posted by HomeTeam View Post
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    They need a wee bit help with their marketing I'll give you that!
    I can't disagree with that. Your pals need to be educated, that's obvious. Where was it printed? Need a better proof reader.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Ozyhibby View Post
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    Some of the things these yellow vest brothers of yours stand for are really quite disgusting.



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    The highlight of that for me is "fake laws". :-)

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    I can't disagree with that. Your pals need to be educated, that's obvious. Where was it printed? Need a better proof reader.
    I dinnae Ken where it was printed. How do I Ken that it was not you or one of your pals who done it to try and dirty the vests image in public?

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    Quote Originally Posted by Ozyhibby View Post
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    Some of the things these yellow vest brothers of yours stand for are really quite disgusting.



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    Wow.

    Somebody needs to teach them the difference between for and against

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