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    Quote Originally Posted by The Modfather View Post
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    Why shouldn’t someone living here and paying taxes have a say in what happens here?
    Coz there foreign and all of them have zero checks which means they must be terrorists or bludgers or worse!

    I wonder how many terror attacks have been committed by migrants to the uk that are foreign nationals

    People are terrified of the most ridiculous things


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    Quote Originally Posted by Callum_62 View Post
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    Coz there foreign and all of them have zero checks which means they must be terrorists or bludgers or worse!

    I wonder how many terror attacks have been committed by migrants to the uk that are foreign nationals

    People are terrified of the most ridiculous things


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    What an idiotic response.

    I lived in the Netherlands for 8 years...Never once did I feel the fate of their country should be in my hands.

    For your information also....They recieve most taxes back.

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    I lived in the Netherlands for 8 years...Never once did I feel the fate of their country should be in my hands.

    For your information also....They recieve most taxes back.
    They do? Christ i better tell my financee then - coz shes been contributing to the NHS and governments coffers since 2 months of setting foot in the country - what can she claim back???

    Oh and Of course shaping our childrens minds by way of teaching

    She is less deserving of a say though, right?


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    The ever increasing migrant population would probably swing it also...where they shouldnt even have a vote.

    I heard Theresa May yesterday say the migrant population is 3,000,000.
    Im pretty sure every single one off them that can or should I say will be allowed with no checks....would vote remain.
    Wow, pretty big statements there.

    Can you provide evidence for:

    - "The ever increasing migrant population" - please let us know how the migrant population has changed since the Brexit vote in 2016?
    - "allowed with no checks" - what do you actually mean by this?
    - "every single one off (sic) them... would vote remain"

    I have a friend who also stayed in the Netherlands for a number of years and returned recently, but interestingly he has very different views to you. He seems more willing to treat people as people, rather than labelling them before deciding whether they meet his approval or not.

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    Quote Originally Posted by McS****y View Post
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    Wow, pretty big statements there.

    Can you provide evidence for:

    - "The ever increasing migrant population" - please let us know how the migrant population has changed since the Brexit vote in 2016?
    - "allowed with no checks" - what do you actually mean by this?
    - "every single one off (sic) them... would vote remain"

    I have a friend who also stayed in the Netherlands for a number of years and returned recently, but interestingly he has very different views to you. He seems more willing to treat people as people, rather than labelling them before deciding whether they meet his approval or not.
    What an idiotic post *




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    I'm not buying this 'resilient May' and 'new found respect' pish that is creeping into the media and social media narrative.

    She was an opportunistic spectator throughout the referendum, a vulture who waited to see how things turned out to further her own ambitions. She knew the job she took on was impossible and so it has proven. Any galvanising of support from within her party is borne from a misplaced partisan loyalty; exactly what got us into this mess in the 1st place.

    **** her and **** her party. We have the basis of actual facts now so let the people decide based on that rather than sensationalised claims and inflammatory narrative from dangerous ideologues dressed up as buffoons, self interested nobodies and utter ****s like Rees-Mogg.
    Aye all carefully stage managed including making the press conference run 20 minutes late.

    Talks about doing what's right for the country. Like the DUP deal the only purpose of it was to keep her and her rotten to the core party in power.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Callum_62 View Post
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    They do? Christ i better tell my financee then - coz shes been contributing to the NHS and governments coffers since 2 months of setting foot in the country - what can she claim back???

    Oh and Of course shaping our childrens minds by way of teaching

    She is less deserving of a say though, right?


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    Quote Originally Posted by McS****y View Post
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    Wow, pretty big statements there.

    Can you provide evidence for:

    - "The ever increasing migrant population" - please let us know how the migrant population has changed since the Brexit vote in 2016?
    - "allowed with no checks" - what do you actually mean by this?
    - "every single one off (sic) them... would vote remain"

    I have a friend who also stayed in the Netherlands for a number of years and returned recently, but interestingly he has very different views to you. He seems more willing to treat people as people, rather than labelling them before deciding whether they meet his approval or not.
    Theresa May stated that figure in her Commons speech yesterday....So blame her

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    Quote Originally Posted by Ryan69 View Post
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    What an idiotic response.

    I lived in the Netherlands for 8 years...Never once did I feel the fate of their country should be in my hands.

    For your information also....They recieve most taxes back.
    Expand on your last sentence?

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    Quote Originally Posted by Ryan69 View Post
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    Theresa May stated that figure in her Commons speech yesterday....So blame her
    Three things:

    1. We both know that's not the question I asked.
    2. Do you believe everything that comes out of Theresa May's mouth?
    3. Any answers to the three things I asked you to provide evidence for in my earlier post?

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    Quote Originally Posted by Ryan69 View Post
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    If you dont believe that...check out taxback.com.
    Cause its true.

    I got my tax back from The Netherlands.,,!,,
    The website doesnt really tell me the rules - youve done it so if you could just explain that would be good

    I notice you didnt confirm that a tax paying school teacher doesn’t deserve a say on the country she lives in- with her british partner and child


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    Quote Originally Posted by Ryan69 View Post
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    For your information also....They recieve most taxes back.
    Where do you get these ideas from?
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    Quote Originally Posted by Ryan69
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    For your information also....They recieve most taxes back.
    Really?! I'd better go tell my fiancee then, we must be ****ing rich!

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    Rees Mogg has his 48 letters, sky news reporting. Whips called back to London, it's going to be a no confidence vote. Meanwhile, nobody is doing Brexit.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Ryan69 View Post
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    The ever increasing migrant population would probably swing it also...where they shouldnt even have a vote. I heard Theresa May yesterday say the migrant population is 3,000,000. Im pretty sure every single one off them that can or should I say will be allowed with no checks....would vote remain.
    3 Million, similar to the population of NI, out of a total population of almost 67 Million. That would swing it right enough As for the tax rebates from your stay in the Netherlands, was this when you returned home, having over paid tax due to the way it is calculated? #askingforafriend
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    Quote Originally Posted by hibsbollah View Post
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    Rees Mogg has his 48 letters, sky news reporting. Whips called back to London, it's going to be a no confidence vote. Meanwhile, nobody is doing Brexit.
    Excuse my ignorance but what does that mean? Leadership election or likely to be a general election?

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    Quote Originally Posted by bingo70 View Post
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    Excuse my ignorance but what does that mean? Leadership election or likely to be a general election?
    Leadership - the tories wont want a gen elec based on recent polling


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    Quote Originally Posted by bingo70 View Post
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    Excuse my ignorance but what does that mean? Leadership election or likely to be a general election?
    It triggers a no confidence vote.

    The big question is how many will back her.

    I don't think she'd lose the vote to be honest but it's the level of backing she gets which will decide her future.

    It may trigger a leadership challenge but I think the rebels would prefer her to resign first.

    When Thatcher was challenged she actually won the first round but was gone within days.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Moulin Yarns View Post
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    3 Million, similar to the population of NI, out of a total population of almost 67 Million. That would swing it right enough As for the tax rebates from your stay in the Netherlands, was this when you returned home, having over paid tax due to the way it is calculated? #askingforafriend
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    Quote Originally Posted by Ryan69 View Post
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    The ever increasing migrant population would probably swing it also...where they shouldnt even have a vote.

    I heard Theresa May yesterday say the migrant population is 3,000,000.
    Im pretty sure every single one off them that can or should I say will be allowed with no checks....would vote remain.
    I initially assumed you were perhaps referring in your post to the Survation/C4 surveys referenced above as the "migrants" may have been polled for it, however, if by "migrants" you are in fact referring to EU migrants in the context of a referendum vote and you are claiming they would swing a referendum vote one way or the other (although "...they shouldn't get a vote") then you ought to know that they did not vote in the 2016 referendum and they "presumably" would not get a vote in a 2nd referendum either - only EU citizens from Ireland (SR), Malta & Cyprus (CW) were entitled to vote in the 2016 UK EU referendum - so how are they going to swing it?

    https://www.gov.uk/government/topica...the-referendum

    "Who can vote in the referendum?
    British, Irish and Commonwealth citizens aged 18 or over who are resident in the UK or Gibraltar will be eligible to vote. UK citizens resident overseas will also be eligible to vote, provided they have been registered to vote at a UK address in the last 15 years."

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    Quote Originally Posted by PeeJay View Post
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    I initially assumed you were perhaps referring in your post to the Survation/C4 surveys referenced above as the "migrants" may have been polled for it, however, if by "migrants" you are in fact referring to EU migrants in the context of a referendum vote and you are claiming they would swing a referendum vote one way or the other (although "...they shouldn't get a vote") then you ought to know that they did not vote in the 2016 referendum and they "presumably" would not get a vote in a 2nd referendum either - only EU citizens from Ireland (SR), Malta & Cyprus (CW) were entitled to vote in the 2016 UK EU referendum - so how are they going to swing it?

    https://www.gov.uk/government/topica...the-referendum

    "Who can vote in the referendum?
    British, Irish and Commonwealth citizens aged 18 or over who are resident in the UK or Gibraltar will be eligible to vote. UK citizens resident overseas will also be eligible to vote, provided they have been registered to vote at a UK address in the last 15 years."

    Let me know if I'm wrong!
    My take on the post was that they would swing polling done by Survation etc as these companies wouldn't check the eligibility to vote of the individual, but would have no impact on the actual referendum as they couldn't, wrongly IMO, vote in that one.

    If there is a correlation between being an immigrant and wanting to remain - which is probably a reasonable one - then it would make sense that polls across everyone would be more remain heavy than any referendum re-run.

    3.8M EU citizens in the UK wouldn't have got a vote - that's 5% of the population, and I'd imagine they might be skewed to being more likely to be over 18 and therefore an even larger % of those who would have (could have, I don't know for sure) been included in any polls.
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    Quote Originally Posted by danhibees1875 View Post
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    My take on the post was that they would swing polling done by Survation etc as these companies wouldn't check the eligibility to vote of the individual, but would have no impact on the actual referendum as they couldn't, wrongly IMO, vote in that one.

    If there is a correlation between being an immigrant and wanting to remain - which is probably a reasonable one - then it would make sense that polls across everyone would be more remain heavy than any referendum re-run.

    3.8M EU citizens in the UK wouldn't have got a vote - that's 5% of the population, and I'd imagine they might be skewed to being more likely to be over 18 and therefore an even larger % of those who would have (could have, I don't know for sure) been included in any polls.
    Fair points - just wasn't sure who the wording of the thread and post was actually aimed at ... think some of the responses showed it wasn't always taken as possibly meant?

    Yeah, they don't have to or can't check the "eligibility" of individuals and they have no way of knowing if the answers given are honest/correct or not of course ...
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