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    Of all the weird, unsubstantiated posts you've come out with recently, this may well be the weirdest.

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    He obviously missed Corbyn's "performance" at PMQs last week.


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    Quote Originally Posted by JeMeSouviens View Post
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    More speculation the 48 Tory letters of no confidence in May are in.
    Speculation ends. 48 letters reached.

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    Vote of no confidence on Wednesday. Breaking news

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    Quote Originally Posted by Tornadoes70 View Post
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    Nonsense. The snp are very largely irrelevant bit players as is normal.
    Ah.. So you do agree then that independence for Scotland is a good thing, glad. That's now cleared up.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Callum_62 View Post
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    Its Boris time *


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    Boris won’t win any leadership contest. The Tory Party is a nest of vipers, there is going to be a political bloodbath if May is dumped tonight. Self indulgent tossers, the lot of them.
    Every gimmick hungry yob,
    Digging gold from rock and roll
    Grabs the mic to tell us,
    He'll die before he's sold.

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    Frightening thought that Boris could be our PM very soon

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    This could backfire massively

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    And if May wins - what then?

    Her deal still wont get thro the house

    Its a frightning thought to think we could end up with a Boris or JRM type of character




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    Gove has the perfect Brexit coupon.

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    So this is a vote of confidence by the Tories in May, not a vote of confidence in the Government voted for by all MPs?

    I thought Blackford said they had until the end of yesterday for the vote of no confidence, so now that's past what they doing about it?

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    Quote Originally Posted by James310 View Post
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    So this is a vote of confidence by the Tories in May, not a vote of confidence in the Government voted for by all MPs?

    I thought Blackford said they had until the end of yesterday for the vote of no confidence, so now that's past what they doing about it?
    Yes this is the tories reaching the 48 letter threshold


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    Quote Originally Posted by Tornadoes70 View Post
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    Nonsense. The snp are very largely irrelevant bit players as is normal.
    Unlike Labour who were Frightened to table a motion of no confidence in the government. Get your head out of the sand and stop trolling.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Moulin Yarns View Post
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    Unlike Labour who were Frightened to table a motion of no confidence in the government. Get your head out of the sand and stop trolling.
    The opposition front benches decision not to call for a no confidence vote has been absolutely borne out by the events of the last few hours. The 'give the Tories enough rope and they will hang themselves' strategy has been Labours policy, quite consistently, for months now, and it shouldn't come as any surprise to anyone.

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    May will win the confidence vote.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Since90+2 View Post
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    May will win the confidence vote.
    I think you may be right

    How many weeks or months will this take if she loses though?

    Surely as soon as she loses Article 50 must be looked at


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    Quote Originally Posted by hibsbollah View Post
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    The opposition front benches decision not to call for a no confidence vote has been absolutely borne out by the events of the last few hours. The 'give the Tories enough rope and they will hang themselves' strategy has been Labours policy, quite consistently, for months now, and it shouldn't come as any surprise to anyone.
    I get that, but this way the government remain in place, albeit possibly with a new leader. An opposition call would have meant the house as a whole vote on the whether there is confidence in the government, not just the Prime Minister. It would most likely have failed, the last time it a no confidence vote won was Jim Callachan
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    The opposition front benches decision not to call for a no confidence vote has been absolutely borne out by the events of the last few hours. The 'give the Tories enough rope and they will hang themselves' strategy has been Labours policy, quite consistently, for months now, and it shouldn't come as any surprise to anyone.
    Spot on . Sturgeon could learn a thing or 2 from old Jezza , instead of flying off the handle all the time with her knee jerk reactions .. stop , think and for a minute .
    Corbyn has played a blinder

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    Quote Originally Posted by makaveli1875 View Post
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    Spot on . Sturgeon could learn a thing or 2 from old Jezza , instead of flying off the handle all the time with her knee jerk reactions .. stop , think and for a minute .
    Corbyn has played a blinder
    But what will it achieve at the end of the day?

    May wins....carry on

    May loses.....then what is the plan?


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    Quote Originally Posted by Callum_62 View Post
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    I think you may be right

    How many weeks or months will this take if she loses though?

    Surely as soon as she loses Article 50 must be looked at


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    She effectively said if she loses article 50 would need to be extended. I know it's an overused phrase but the UK really is a complete and utter laughing stock at the minute.

    The whole Brexit idea is absolute madness however people who voted for it don't seem to realise it yet. Perhaps the electorate gets the politicians it deserves.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Callum_62 View Post
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    But what will it achieve at the end of the day?

    May wins....carry on

    May loses.....then what is the plan?


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    Correct!

    I think Labour have been honking throughout this, and continue to be so.

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    But what will it achieve at the end of the day?

    May wins....carry on

    May loses.....then what is the plan?


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    May wins - the current level of chaos.

    May loses - probably a whole new level of chaos. There's no way anybody but a suicide squad no deal Brexit ultra will get elected by the Tory party grass roots at large. Rather than threatening no deal, they may actually try and run the clock out to achieve no deal. This is actually quite scary.

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    The opposition front benches decision not to call for a no confidence vote has been absolutely borne out by the events of the last few hours. The 'give the Tories enough rope and they will hang themselves' strategy has been Labours policy, quite consistently, for months now, and it shouldn't come as any surprise to anyone.
    It depends what your priorities are. If you want to gamble on a GE at any cost, even if that's after a no deal Brexit, then this is a winning strategy. Avoiding Brexit, or at the very least avoiding a hard Tory style Brexit should be Lab's priority, imo.

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    Quote Originally Posted by hibsbollah View Post
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    The opposition front benches decision not to call for a no confidence vote has been absolutely borne out by the events of the last few hours. The 'give the Tories enough rope and they will hang themselves' strategy has been Labours policy, quite consistently, for months now, and it shouldn't come as any surprise to anyone.
    I'm not sure that during his leadership Jeremy Corbyn has shown enough to suggest that this is any sort of deliberate strategy more than the accidental outcome of months and years of dithering.

    Whether you like her policies or not, Sturgeon has consistently shown leadership skills not seen in the Labour Party for decades. She chose a position, got people in her party to stand behind her and fought her corner.

    If we'd had any sort of leadership or direction within our opposition over the past decade, the Tories would not have been allowed to lead us to this current shambles.

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    Quote Originally Posted by hibsbollah View Post
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    The opposition front benches decision not to call for a no confidence vote has been absolutely borne out by the events of the last few hours. The 'give the Tories enough rope and they will hang themselves' strategy has been Labours policy, quite consistently, for months now, and it shouldn't come as any surprise to anyone.
    Its no surprise but Corbyn could have at least shown some fight over the past few months. Or even acted like a leader. He's had ample opportunity to show her up and fails at every turn.
    And if he's deliberately waited until now then he's as accountable as the tories for dragging the country through this steaming pile of ****

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    Who do the Tories go for if they dump May?

    Of the arch Brexiteers you have Gove who has recently declared himself 'loyal' to May and thus the deal. Boris doesn't bear thinking about. Rees-Mogg raises a whole host of constitutional questions. It wouldn't shock me to see someone like Raab sneak in the back door.

    I reckon strong and stable might just about cling on though.
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    Quote Originally Posted by jonty View Post
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    Its no surprise but Corbyn could have at least shown some fight over the past few months. Or even acted like a leader. He's had ample opportunity to show her up and fails at every turn.
    And if he's deliberately waited until now then he's as accountable as the tories for dragging the country through this steaming pile of ****
    'Accountable as the Tories'?? Really? I understand lots of people don't like the new Labour party, or can disagree with the tactical direction, or even deny they have one, but you have to examine this sort of hyperbole and decide if it stands up to scrutiny. Or logic. It just doesn't. Brexit is a Tory toley sandwich. Pretending Corbyn is culpable for anything except not doing enough to wrestle the mustard from the sweaty palms of Cameron, Rabb, May, Johnson, Gove and the rest of them is playing into the hands of the Tory apologists. They don't have to eat the Tory toley, after all.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Pretty Boy View Post
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    Who do the Tories go for if they dump May?

    Of the arch Brexiteers you have Gove who has recently declared himself 'loyal' to May and thus the deal. Boris doesn't bear thinking about. Rees-Mogg raises a whole host of constitutional questions. It wouldn't shock me to see someone like Raab sneak in the back door.

    I reckon strong and stable might just about cling on though.
    Remember Yes Minister, when they gave the job to Jim Hacker, on the basis that he was so incompetent and without any supporters that it made further internecine civil war less likely?

    Thats why it will be a colourless unknown like David Liddington.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Smartie View Post
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    I'm not sure that during his leadership Jeremy Corbyn has shown enough to suggest that this is any sort of deliberate strategy more than the accidental outcome of months and years of dithering.

    Whether you like her policies or not, Sturgeon has consistently shown leadership skills not seen in the Labour Party for decades. She chose a position, got people in her party to stand behind her and fought her corner.

    If we'd had any sort of leadership or direction within our opposition over the past decade, the Tories would not have been allowed to lead us to this current shambles.
    If I was Nicola, I would have called for a NC vote.
    If I was Jeremy, I wouldn't have.

    Both sensible political decisions based on party self interest. National interest is a myth pedalled by the powerful and swallowed by the hard of thinking.

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