Roberto Neilson the Magician

[iwasthere1972]

Who was the last person at Tynecastle who had big plans (not including the ones in cardboard boxes) to make Hearts champions of Scotland? For a bonus point whatever happened to him?

5 years eh. He genuinely thinks he'll be there that long. Deluded windae licker.

[greenginger]

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He must be doing it on the sly then - they're not on sale yet

Is there a reason for the delay ?

[MWHIBBIES]

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Thing is, I believe it is possible for, certainly Aberdeen, Hearts and Hibs (once we get promotion) to challenge for the title.

I wouldn't expect us to challenge but I'd be disappointed if the people running our club didn't at least recognise the possibility. Celtic and Rangers aren't competing in the group stages of the Champ league any more and it's been a couple of years since there has been any mega bucks sales to the Premiership.

Their budget is obviously still bigger but the gap has now closed to a point where sound management, player recruitment and financial planning could allow another club to win the title.

No it hasn't. Celtic have sold Van Dijk and Forster for over 20 million to Southampton in the last 2 years.

[hibsmad]

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No it hasn't. Celtic have sold Van Dijk and Forster for over 20 million to Southampton in the last 2 years.

Okay its been almost two years since they sold Forster for big money. I had forgotten about van Dijk.

Over the last six years or so they have sold van Dijk, Forster, Wanyama, Hooper, Sung-Yeung Ki, McGeady all for big money. An average of one big sale per season. It's been almost a year since the van Dijk sale. Can you see the next one? The point was that the big sales are are drying up and I don't see any other 10M+ players in their current squad.

I think you probably knew that was my point though, but well done for pointing out the error

[greenginger]

Also drying up will be the Foundation of Hearts debits to the football club.

I think from next season the payments will be gathered for the purchase of the Club from Mrs Budge.

[Thecat23]

Still makes me laugh that folk think Robbie Neilson calls the shots. He's the face of hearts but he's not the brains. He's also the dullest man on the planet but that's irrelevant just thought I'd add that.

Hearts are *****, I don't really care enough about them or the team, I worry about Hibs and that's enough for me.

[MWHIBBIES]

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Okay its been almost two years since they sold Forster for big money. I had forgotten about van Dijk.

Over the last six years or so they have sold van Dijk, Forster, Wanyama, Hooper, Sung-Yeung Ki, McGeady all for big money. An average of one big sale per season. It's been almost a year since the van Dijk sale. Can you see the next one? The point was that the big sales are are drying up and I don't see any other 10M+ players in their current squad.

I think you probably knew that was my point though, but well done for pointing out the error

You are right in saying that they don't have a 10 million pound player now but I'd hardly say its unlikely they could sign someone this summer that could go for big money in a few years, they have done okay in recent years when it comes to selling guys for big money after getting them cheap. Probably law of averages stuff, they have certainly signed enough guff as well.

[Bostonhibby]

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Is there a reason for the delay ?

Printing 400,000 season tickets takes a while, and they have to be bigger than average ones as well.

[hibsmad]

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You are right in saying that they don't have a 10 million pound player now but I'd hardly say its unlikely they could sign someone this summer that could go for big money in a few years, they have done okay in recent years when it comes to selling guys for big money after getting them cheap. Probably law of averages stuff, they have certainly signed enough guff as well.

Fair enough.

I like to think (maybe hope) that they went through a bit of a purple patch with signings and that they have sold an above average amount of big money players over the past six years. Couple this with the fact that they are finding it more difficult to qualify for the Champions League and you have a club with, although bigger than the rest, a much reduced budget compared to recent years.

Remember that a lot of these players were sold for big money because they performed well in the Champions League. If Celtic aren't qualifying for it then the players can't prove to other clubs that they are up to that level. Which results in reduced transfer fees.

[son of haggart]

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Is there a reason for the delay ?

They went on sale today - the same day as last year.

[SJM]

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They went on sale today - the same day as last year.

Im gathering this will be the last season sitting in the ****hole deathtrap part of the stadium?

[son of haggart]

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Im gathering this will be the last season sitting in the ****hole deathtrap part of the stadium?

If you mean our magnificent Archibald Leitch designed main stand , then yes

I'll miss the old dear - my grandfather was in the enclosure there all the way through the 20s to the early 70s

[greenlex]

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Why not? Vision and mission. Being Scottish champions is within the reach of several clubs, barring a rigged TV contract that ploughs money into one specific fixture or daft voting rights that maintain a duopoly. Every club is beatable on any given match day.

Anyone know where we plan to be in the next 5 years?

I.l can't see anyone other than the old firm wining the league as long as we are playing each other four times. You can beat them both once or maybe even twice but not come out on top over four games. Then it's down to how you do against everyone else.

[Aldo]

If I'm being honest I don't give a flying F what that grade a yam roaster fud has to say.

In fact they can all go and do one, especially the bottle merchant Potter.

[Phil MaGlass]

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head coach robbie neilson firmly believes that hearts can finally erase the pain of 1986, when they lost the scottish title to celtic on the final day of the season, by challenging the glasgow club for the title next season. (the herald)

hearts head coach robbie neilson has five-year plan to make the edinburgh club scottish champions.(the scotsman)

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[Deansy]

Ach, give them a season or two to settle down and they'll be back to their usual target - finishing 3rd !. I've never understood that years-old mantra of theirs 'We're Scotland's 3rd Club' - who the **** wants their to continually finish 3rd ??. Unless they mean the 3rd biggest religiously-bigoted support ??

[madabouthibs]

Not even close to the poorest celtic side for many years. He's a zoomer!

[emerald green]

How did Neilson / Levein's team get on today? I heard Griffiths scored yet another goal at Tynecastle today.

I wonder how many that must be for Griffiths at that particular ground?

[Jack Hackett]

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How did Neilson / Levein's team get on today? I heard Griffiths scored yet another goal at Tynecastle today.

I wonder how many that must be for Griffiths at that particular ground?

Officially one less than it should be.

[21.05.2016]

Its ambitious but if you've just finished 3rd then surely you have to aim to better that.

Unfortunately for hearts, celtic will strengthen and I reckon so will the huns.

[greenlex]

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Officially one less than it should be.

How so?

[Pete]

Neilsen the Phoodle out!!

Hire a plane with one click: sorted!

[SJM]

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How so?

Mixing up the goal well over the line at Easter Road with Forsters well onside equaliser at their dump I think.

[Waxy]

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How did Neilson / Levein's team get on today? I heard Griffiths scored yet another goal at Tynecastle today.

I wonder how many that must be for Griffiths at that particular ground?

Jambos played eye bleeding football today.They should contemplate building their new stand facing Mcleod st.

[Col2]

Really poor hoof ball team full of tall physical foreign players with little skill.

Celtic nothing special but comfortable in 2nd gear.

Season finished in Feb after yet another derby defeat.

[green day]

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magnificent Archibald Leitch designed main stand

Is that the one you have such an attachment to that you are about to knock down (sorry, I know you will save the odd brick/window)?

"Famous (sic) Archibald Leitch Designed stand" has been a poncey byline in every fawning Budge interview to date, only for her to dump it when it becomes surplus to requirements.

How's it being paid for, by the way?

[Dr Jimmy]

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Still makes me laugh that folk think Robbie Neilson calls the shots. He's the face of hearts but he's not the brains. He's also the dullest man on the planet but that's irrelevant just thought I'd add that.

Hearts are *****, I don't really care enough about them or the team, I worry about Hibs and that's enough for me.

Think the fact that he has not been linked to any clubs down south, despite winning the championship last year and getting 3rd in the SPL, tells you all you need to know. People in football clearly believe he is Potters puppet.

[Libby Hibby]

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Think the fact that he has not been linked to any clubs down south, despite winning the championship last year and getting 3rd in the SPL, tells you all you need to know. People in football clearly believe he is Potters puppet.

He's potters puppet as potter still getting paid from SFA I believe until he finds a 'managers' role or a 'head coach' position at a club...hence his current title at Tincastle.

Potter needs a patsy to keep up the pretence to the SFA.

What I've been told anyway.

[Pete]

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If you mean our magnificent Archibald Leitch designed main stand , then yes

I'll miss the old dear - my grandfather was in the enclosure there all the way through the 20s to the early 70s

Looking at old pictures, it did indeed look magnificent in its original form with its terraced enclosures (including the now infamous style of crush barriers). It was also half decent when you initially made the enclosures seated.

Looking at it now, it is anything but a magnificent example of Archibald Leitch architecture. The lower tiers have been become unrecognisable, half populated wastes of space incorporating laughable attempts at prime facilities.

Clubs all over the British Isles have managed to maintain the essence of their original building but it's as if you guys have desecrated yours. Maybe it's your desire to do things on the cheap or the instinct to act now and think about the consequences later that have resulted in this.

Either way it's been allowed to become an outdated, ugly mess and shouldn't be missed by anyone.

[Sammy7nil]

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Ach, give them a season or two to settle down and they'll be back to their usual target - finishing 3rd !. I've never understood that years-old mantra of theirs 'We're Scotland's 3rd Club' - who the **** wants their to continually finish 3rd ??. Unless they mean the 3rd biggest religiously-bigoted support ??

I think most teams in Scotland would like to consistently finish third, I think most fans know realistically that is what can be achieved. There may be a narrowing of the gap and a title challange might just be possible from someone outwith the OF but I doubt it.