Get used to it.

[Scottie]

Life in the Championship for a long long time to come.

[Viva_Palmeiras]

Take a bow.

[rcarter1]

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Life in the Championship for a long long time to come.

When we were relegated, someone said we could be down here for three seasons. At the time I thought this was overly pessimistic. At this rate it could be three more seasons! Strangely relaxed about this state of affairs at the moment.

[lugz]

Unfortunately nothing has changed, players, managers, board members come and go but the club remains the same.

We're never up for a fight and unfortunately every season is going to be a battle with 1 (possibly 2) teams coming down and teams like Raith/Falkirk improving all the time.

[Pretty Boy]

All the evidence says that the longer you are down here the harder it is to get out.

I'd be utterly gobsmacked if we manage to haul ourselves through 6 play off games and looking ahead to next season we have a lot of tough teams to come up against. I'd love to pretend all is rosey in the garden but it's not, we are in a bad place right now.

[Sergey]

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All the evidence says that the longer you are down here the harder it is to get out.

I'd be utterly gobsmacked if we manage to haul ourselves through 6 play off games and looking ahead to next season we have a lot of tough teams to come up against. I'd love to pretend all is rosey in the garden but it's not, we are in a bad place right now.

Ask the likes of Leeds/Coventry/Birmingham/Wolves/Bolton <insert any other 'big' club> how difficult it is to get out of the lower league. Those clubs mentioned had substantial parachute payments and are still found wanting.

[ehf]

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Ask the likes of Leeds/Coventry/Birmingham/Wolves/Bolton <insert any other 'big' club> how difficult it is to get out of the lower league. Those clubs mentioned had substantial parachute payments and are still found wanting.

Yep; it's a financial Catch 2. Season tickets sales will nosedive now and we will have to pay off Stubbs and his cohorts.

[Pete]

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Ask the likes of Leeds/Coventry/Birmingham/Wolves/Bolton <insert any other 'big' club> how difficult it is to get out of the lower league. Those clubs mentioned had substantial parachute payments and are still found wanting.

Getting out of the lower leagues in England is more difficult as there are lots of other similar sized teams down there.

There isn't that quagmire up here and you've even said yourself that there is a lot of dross in our second tier.

[IberianHibernian]

We may yet be promoted but , if we aren`t , next season will still be interesting . Games against Dunfermline ( would expect over 15 , 000 for festive period match at ER if both teams are doing well ) , Dundee United , Raith , Killie would attract big crowds and certainly bigger than against Ross County , ICT or Motherwell for example in Premiership ( is that name ? ) . No accountant or member of marketing team at Hibs will have been working on assumption we`ll be in top league next year so I assume they`ve got lots of ideas for if we get promotion or if we don`t .

[Craig_in_Prague]

Could we sell East Mains and invest into the team? Are the board cutting their salaries as we 'compete' in the lower leagues?
I had a feeling we'd get relegated the day we lost at Tynie, now I have the similar feeling we're stuck in this league for a couple of more years at least.
Grim stuff. Truely grim.

[Since90+2]

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We may yet be promoted but , if we aren`t , next season will still be interesting . Games against Dunfermline ( would expect over 15 , 000 for festive period match at ER if both teams are doing well ) , Dundee United , Raith , Killie would attract big crowds and certainly bigger than against Ross County , ICT or Motherwell for example in Premiership ( is that name ? ) . No accountant or member of marketing team at Hibs will have been working on assumption we`ll be in top league next year so I assume they`ve got lots of ideas for if we get promotion or if we don`t .

Over 15,000 for a Hibs v Dunferlime game in the Championship next year? Absolutely no chance.

[mghibs]

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Yep; it's a financial Catch 2. Season tickets sales will nosedive now and we will have to pay off Stubbs and his cohorts.

Reckon Stubbs will walk if we don't go up so at least we wouldn't have to finance that... May lack experience but I reckon he would know when his time is up

[Sergey]

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Reckon Stubbs will walk if we don't go up so at least we wouldn't have to finance that... May lack experience but I reckon he would know when his time is up

No manager walks away these days - it'll be by 'mutual consent' and he'll still take a pay-off.

[Hibby70]

Being a Hibs fan is like being in a relationship with an abusive partner. Every weekend they hurt and humiliate you yet you keep coming back for more coz you "love" them and you have a nice house and garden.

Every now and then they'll seem like they are being nice to you before hitting you hard in the stomach when you least expect it.

All your friends and colleagues seem to have nice partners who give them presents and never seem to let them down even the ones up north.

But you struggle on hoping against hope that one day they'll change and make you happy.

But at least you're not married to Geoff the Jambo - he's a ****.

[Jim44]

Until a couple of months ago, I thought of us as a misplaced Premiership club, ready to bounce back up much sooner than later. Every match we fail in, however, reinforces the unthinkable likelihood that we are becoming a dyed in the wool Championship club that might struggle for some time to get back to the Premiership and stay there.

[rossevenil]

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Being a Hibs fan is like being in a relationship with an abusive partner. Every weekend they hurt and humiliate you yet you keep coming back for more coz you "love" them and you have a nice house and garden.

Every now and then they'll seem like they are being nice to you before hitting you hard in the stomach when you least expect it.

All your friends and colleagues seem to have nice partners who give them presents and never seem to let them down even the ones up north.

But you struggle on hoping against hope that one day they'll change and make you happy.

But at least you're not married to Geoff the Jambo - he's a ****.

Exactly how I think about Hibs nowadays,all those that continue to go week in week out and support the team I take my hat off to you,I for can`t do it anymore,the feeling of let down
has finally done me in.

[Hermit Crab]

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We may yet be promoted but , if we aren`t , next season will still be interesting . Games against Dunfermline ( would expect over 15 , 000 for festive period match at ER if both teams are doing well ) , Dundee United , Raith , Killie would attract big crowds and certainly bigger than against Ross County , ICT or Motherwell for example in Premiership ( is that name ? ) . No accountant or member of marketing team at Hibs will have been working on assumption we`ll be in top league next year so I assume they`ve got lots of ideas for if we get promotion or if we don`t .

Is that why season tickets are Premiership prices next season then? £360 early bird or £380 if you missed the cut off. It's a joke to be paying that to watch championship football. It will be £22 for walk ups next season to make a season ticket worth while, anything less than that and I'd be looking for the difference back and if they class Dunfermline or dundee utd as a Cat A match that will be £28 for the pleasure. Astonishing.

[Forza Fred]

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Until a couple of months ago, I thought of us as a misplaced Premiership club, ready to bounce back up much sooner than later. Every match we fail in, however, reinforces the unthinkable likelihood that we are becoming a dyed in the wool Championship club that might struggle for some time to get back to the Premiership and stay there.

Interesting post
I have been musing recently as to whether our view of us as a 'misplaced Premiership club' is part of our downfall.

We are in effect a Championship club, and became one when we got relegated because we could not compete adequately in the higher division.

Is, we were a pretty crap football team.

Despite that, as far as I can see we are structured as a club as if we WERE still a Premiership club,and I wonder if all these 'comforts' makes us mentally soft, whereas we may feel that things are a 'gimme' where other clubs have to scrap tooth and nail to obtain what we think is automatic...including points.

As supporters we ourselves displayed this sense of entitlement a few months ago,when it was pointed out during a discussion on Rangers fans' arrogance' in dismissing our then challenge...that Falkirk fans could accuse us of the same arrogant approach.

Almost to a post responses piled in completely discounting that Falkirk would finish above us, with many suggesting that they would inevitably 'fall away' as the season wore on, and tacitly suggesting therefore that we wouldn't.

This I think was based on the fact that we have a bigger almost Premier League set up, and that therefore would result in more points.

I' not suggesting for a minute that we have the players run up and down sand dunes, or sell East Mains, but I do think our approach to games maybe has been affected,due to us thinking we are better than what we really are.

As some have said we would do ok, I the Premier League, but we ain't there, and the old adage about 'horses for courses' springs to mind.

[MWHIBBIES]

There is nothing to suggest we wont go up next season. Absolutely nothing.

[Forza Fred]

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There is nothing to suggest we wont go up next season. Absolutely nothing.

Keep this post handy, it's recyclable.

[MWHIBBIES]

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Keep this post handy, it's recyclable.

It is also true. We would probably be favourites next season if we are still down here. Few new signings, probably a new manager, we aren't ****ing doomed like some folk are making out.

[Forza Fred]

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It is also true. We would probably be favourites next season if we are still down here. Few new signings, probably a new manager, we aren't ****ing doomed like some folk are making out.

FWIW I think with no Rangers, provided we don't take things for granted of course, that we will actually lead the table for a considerable period.

Don't want to use the phrase 'romp it in' but I think clubs will be chasing us instead of us chasing them.


Mind you, we STILL could fluke it this season..

[MWHIBBIES]

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FWIW I think with no Rangers, provided we don't take things for granted of course, that we will actually lead the table for a considerable period.

Don't want to use the phrase 'romp it in' but I think clubs will be chasing us instead of us chasing them.


Mind you, we STILL could fluke it this season..

No team is history has ever been promoted on a fluke, if we go up we'll deserve it.

[Forza Fred]

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No team is history has ever been promoted on a fluke, if we go up we'll deserve it.

My use of the term 'fluke' was short for 'put together a run of unexpected but welcome victories'

Don't want to get personal but you seem as if you must have the last word in any exchange, and I kinda find that tiresome.

Soi'm off to bed.

[MWHIBBIES]

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My use of the term 'fluke' was short for 'put together a run of unexpected but welcome victories'

Don't want to get personal but you seem as if you must have the last word in any exchange, and I kinda find that tiresome.

Soi'm off to bed.

okay.

[IWasThere2016]

In Rod We Trust

[Pete]

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It is also true. We would probably be favourites next season if we are still down here. Few new signings, probably a new manager, we aren't ****ing doomed like some folk are making out.

Spot on.

You're fast becoming a beacon of common sense among all the dying swans.

[Ozyhibby]

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It is also true. We would probably be favourites next season if we are still down here. Few new signings, probably a new manager, we aren't ****ing doomed like some folk are making out.

Any new signing would be of lesser quality and our two players of value will be sold.
Continued managed decline is where we are at these days.

[scoopyboy]

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Could we sell East Mains and invest into the team? Are the board cutting their salaries as we 'compete' in the lower leagues?
I had a feeling we'd get relegated the day we lost at Tynie, now I have the similar feeling we're stuck in this league for a couple of more years at least.
Grim stuff. Truely grim.

We have been investing in the team.

[IberianHibernian]

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Any new signing would be of lesser quality and our two players of value will be sold.
Continued managed decline is where we are at these days.

Maybe of lesser quality but also maybe more effective . Don`t think we`d welcome many if any of the Falkirk players as signings but as a team they seem to be doing better than us .