Adam Johnson sentenced to six years in prison

[Hibernia&Alba]

What a fall from grace. International footballer, millionaire lifestyle, idolised by fans of big clubs; ruined by his own deviancy.

[SJM]

All his own fault. Lost his family too.

[cabbageandribs1875]

Prosecutor Kate Blackwell QC told the sentencing hearing there was a "significant disparity" in age between the footballer and the girl.
She said: "The most apparent feature in the view of the Crown is the severe psychological harm that the defendant has caused to the victim."


Ms Blackwell said the girl had suffered at school, both in her work and from bullying because of Johnson's actions.
The prosecutor also told the court that Johnson had a history of meeting girls for sex, describing it as a "clandestine habit".

think he got an increased length of jail time because he put the young lassie through so many court appearances by denying everything

[Andy.1875]

Does a conviction like this prevent him moving to the States and a MLS side when he gets out?

[JimBHibees]

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Does a conviction like this prevent him moving to the States and a MLS side when he gets out?

Would expect so. Not sure many teams would be interested due to his appalling baggage.

[Phil MaGlass]

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Would expect so. Not sure many teams would be interested due to his appalling baggage.

I think we all know one club that might be interested

[CropleyWasGod]

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Does a conviction like this prevent him moving to the States and a MLS side when he gets out?

Probably:-

http://www.usvisalawyers.co.uk/article7.htm

"A crime involving moral turpitude (or an attempt or conspiracy to commit such a crime)"

[silverhibee]

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Does a conviction like this prevent him moving to the States and a MLS side when he gets out?

He will never be allowed in to the USA again.

[Dashing Bob S]

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He will never be allowed in to the USA again.

Correct. His crime is classified as statutory rape there.

[GordonHFC]

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Does a conviction like this prevent him moving to the States and a MLS side when he gets out?

With that conviction over him I would doubt he would get any kind of visa allowing him into the country.

[Steve-O]

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Does a conviction like this prevent him moving to the States and a MLS side when he gets out?

A 6 year prison sentence would make it virtually impossible to visit the states, let alone work there.

[Hibernia&Alba]

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A 6 year prison sentence would make it virtually impossible to visit the states, let alone work there.

Isn't the case that a police caution can even create problems getting into America?

[CropleyWasGod]

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A 6 year prison sentence would make it virtually impossible to visit the states, let alone work there.

It's not just the length, it's the type. Moral Turpitude prevents any kind of visa, IIRC.

[Hibernia&Alba]

Yes, some disturbing details about Johnson were revealed in the summing up this morning.

- A psychiatric report stated that Johnson felt he had a 'right' to sex with female fans
- He would pick up women on the way home from training
- He admitted he needed help with his sexual behaviour

That's bad enough, but when the fans are under the age of consent, it makes him a danger to society. He knew the girl had only just turned fifteen, tried to cover his tracks and then lied about what happened.

[SeanWilson]

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Yes, some disturbing details about Johnson were revealed in the summing up this morning.

- A psychiatric report stated that Johnson felt he had a 'right' to sex with female fans
- He would pick up women on the way home from training
- He admitted he needed help with his sexual behaviour

That's bad enough, but when the fans are under the age of consent, it makes him a danger to society. He knew the girl had only just turned fifteen, tried to cover his tracks and then lied about what happened.

I actually think that reeks of his defence trying to get a doctor to state he has 'issues' to affect the sentence.

[CropleyWasGod]

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I actually think that reeks of his defence trying to get a doctor to state he has 'issues' to affect the sentence.

...or, more likely, the judge having asked for a psychiatric report to help him determine the sentence.

[SeanWilson]

not sure what to make of it all.

[Giro Playboy]

Anyone coming on here blaming the victim should have a long hard look at themselves. The girl was a star struck school kid. She did not deserve to be taken advantage off.

[SeanWilson]

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Anyone coming on here blaming the victim should have a long hard look at themselves. The girl was a star struck school kid. She did not deserve to be taken advantage off.

Suppose you could say annyone coming on here claiming to know who or what the girl is/was should take a long hard look at themselves. Truth is, whether you agree with the sentence or not, can't imagine many on here are better placed to make the decision than the judge.

[Hibbyradge]

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Suppose you could say annyone coming on here claiming to know who or what the girl is/was should take a long hard look at themselves. Truth is, whether you agree with the sentence or not, can't imagine many on here are better placed to make the decision than the judge.

He was found guilty by a jury of his peers, not the judge.

A jury which heard all the evidence.

How can anyone on here disagree with the verdict?

[SeanWilson]

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He was found guilty by a jury of his peers, not the judge.

A jury which heard all the evidence.

How can anyone on here disagree with the verdict?

He was sentenced by a judge.

Don't think anyone is disagreeing with the verdict (anywhere).

[FromTheCapital]

Obviously, AJ's actions were utterly horrific and he deserves jail time.
But, what about the 21-year-old babysitter who had sex with an 11-year old or the teacher who had sex with a pupil "almost 50 times" and claimed she was pregnant?
Now I am not condoning Johnson's actions but when you consider all of this plus the fact that Oscar Pistorius only got 5 years for murdering his wife, it really doesn't make sense.
Justice systems all over the world need looked at and AJ probably deserves his 6-year imprisonment but those two women who actually had sexual intercourse with children deserve the same sentence and Pistorius should never see the light of day again.


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[Geo_1875]

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Obviously, AJ's actions were utterly horrific and he deserves jail time.
But, what about the 21-year-old babysitter who had sex with an 11-year old or the teacher who had sex with a pupil "almost 50 times" and claimed she was pregnant?
Now I am not condoning Johnson's actions but when you consider all of this plus the fact that Oscar Pistorius only got 5 years for murdering his wife, it really doesn't make sense.
Justice systems all over the world need looked at and AJ probably deserves his 6-year imprisonment but those two women who actually had sexual intercourse with children deserve the same sentence and Pistorius should never see the light of day again.


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AJ gets 6 years and OJ walks free.

Obviously celebrity counts for more in the USA.

[hibee-boys]

Adam Johnson has been rightly locked up and he'll never play professional football, certainly not in this country, ever again. There does seem to be some inconsistencies in the justice system. I would hope that if the tables were turned and that it was a female grooming a 15 year old male they would also be rightly punished to the same correct extent. Based on some of the examples provided in this thread I very doubt that would be the case.

[Hibernia&Alba]

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Adam Johnson has been rightly locked up and he'll never play professional football, certainly not in this country, ever again. There does seem to be some inconsistencies in the justice system. I would hope that if the tables were turned and that it was a female grooming a 15 year old male they would also be rightly punished to the same correct extent. Based on some of the examples provided in this thread I very doubt that would be the case.

We don't know all the facts in relation to other cases, which are required to make a proper comparison. It's better to stick to the Johnson case: we know he lied about exactly what went on with the girl, and we know he was fully aware she was underage. We know he groomed her and abused his position. Six years (out in three) doesn't sound excessive, IMO.

[Dirkster23]

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We don't know all the facts in relation to other cases, which are required to make a proper comparison. It's better to stick to the Johnson case: we know he lied about exactly what went on with the girl, and we know he was fully aware she was underage. We know he groomed her and abused his position. Six years (out in three) doesn't sound excessive, IMO.

Having read this article, I'm not sure why she only received 2 years (out in one).

http://www.telegraph.co.uk/news/ukne...o-lenient.html

[Allant1981]

Crazy that he thought he would get away with it, these guys think they are untouchable for some reason, yip he obviously has issues himself but doesnt excuse trying to get a 15yr old wee lassie. Feel sorry for his kid not having a parent around due to being a twat

[Steve-O]

Type is an issue there too, yes.

Also the likes of Australia/NZ, prison sentences over 12 months mean you ain't getting in. At least for a long number of years.

Having been arrested EVER can supposedly cause issues getting into the US but I have my doubts anyone is ever stopped because of that.

[eastmainsmsh]

The mair I look at his puss on pics in paper and web the creepier he is absolute rodent

[Edson Arantes]

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The mair I look at his puss on pics in paper and web the creepier he is absolute rodent

This post is incredibly difficult to read.