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    The Romanian bit was when he was at Liverpool ..... Broke one. Of the Romanians jaw with a punch
    This was the one I was thinking of.


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    Quote Originally Posted by Sergey View Post
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    This was the one I was thinking of.

    The commentator saying that is certainly a booking.... the game has changed a little since then!

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    Nonsense....................name them? I've seen him play more games than you've had free dinners!

    Absolutely - he didn't even put McCluskey out of the game.

    Souness was the player Billy Bremner should have been, supremely talented, iron hard, totally uncompromising, but with none of the sleazy reputation, dishonesty, or hard boozing. In many ways the consummate professional.

    If he had played for Hibs he would be lauded on this forum as an all-time Hibs legend; because he played for Rangers some Hibs supporters make out he was nothing but a thug.

    (And I have to say McCluskey wasn't the sort of player I would be ready to go to war over with anyone. I never liked him very much.)

    IMO he's one of the best of all the current commentators/summarisers on any channel. Always intelligent, courteous and entertaining. Even when he criticises a player he does so sensibly and appropriately, always well worth listening to.

    And unlike Michael Owen's, I could listen to his voice all night - a pleasure to listen to him. I really hope he makes a complete and speedy recovery.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Doddie View Post
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    Absolutely - he didn't even put McCluskey out of the game.

    Souness was the player Billy Bremner should have been, supremely talented, iron hard, totally uncompromising, but with none of the sleazy reputation, dishonesty, or hard boozing. In many ways the consummate professional.

    If he had played for Hibs he would be lauded on this forum as an all-time Hibs legend; because he played for Rangers some Hibs supporters make out he was nothing but a thug.

    (And I have to say McCluskey wasn't the sort of player I would be ready to go to war over with anyone. I never liked him very much.)
    Souness as a player was nasty, malicious and extremely dirty. Not my cup of tea - ever. I had the misfortune to see first hand what he did to George McCluskey - it was horrific. Brian Clough accurately summed up Souness the player. He stated, "Souness is a coward. Like the dog in my street he is good at giving it but not good at taking it back". As for Billy Bremner, the man who you have just maligned in his battle with ill health he showed great courage and to his credit did not sell his story to the Sun. This last act sum up this self serving and greedy human being.
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    The commentator saying that is certainly a booking.... the game has changed a little since then!
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    Quote Originally Posted by Doddie View Post
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    Absolutely - he didn't even put McCluskey out of the game.

    Souness was the player Billy Bremner should have been, supremely talented, iron hard, totally uncompromising, but with none of the sleazy reputation, dishonesty, or hard boozing. In many ways the consummate professional.

    If he had played for Hibs he would be lauded on this forum as an all-time Hibs legend; because he played for Rangers some Hibs supporters make out he was nothing but a thug.

    (And I have to say McCluskey wasn't the sort of player I would be ready to go to war over with anyone. I never liked him very much.)

    IMO he's one of the best of all the current commentators/summarisers on any channel. Always intelligent, courteous and entertaining. Even when he criticises a player he does so sensibly and appropriately, always well worth listening to.

    And unlike Michael Owen's, I could listen to his voice all night - a pleasure to listen to him. I really hope he makes a complete and speedy recovery.
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    Souness as a player was nasty, malicious and extremely dirty. Not my cup of tea - ever. I had the misfortune to see first hand what he did to George McCluskey - it was horrific. Brian Clough accurately summed up Souness the player. He stated, "Souness is a coward. Like the dog in my street he is good at giving it but not good at taking it back". As for Billy Bremner, the man who you have just maligned in his battle with ill health he showed great courage and to his credit did not sell his story to the Sun. This last act sum up this self serving and greedy human being.
    looking at how this thread has developed and taking account of what he and his family have probably been going through I think my negative assessment of the player hasn't actually changed but is heavily influenced by how quickly he seemed to embrace all aspects of the arrogance and culture of the now defunct Glasgow rangers when he joined them - no better example than his debut against us.

    I do hope the man recovers recovers quickly and soon.

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    http://youtu.be/ygVgxYa3mlo

    Just a booking 😮

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    Quote Originally Posted by McIntosh View Post
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    Souness as a player was nasty, malicious and extremely dirty. Not my cup of tea - ever. I had the misfortune to see first hand what he did to George McCluskey - it was horrific. Brian Clough accurately summed up Souness the player. He stated, "Souness is a coward. Like the dog in my street he is good at giving it but not good at taking it back". As for Billy Bremner, the man who you have just maligned in his battle with ill health he showed great courage and to his credit did not sell his story to the Sun. This last act sum up this self serving and greedy human being.
    Football in those days was nasty, malicious and extremely dirty at times.

    Souness could mix it like the very best/ worst of them, as well as being able to play.

    His debut for Rangers was not his finest hour but at least he has had the good grace to admit to some regret over it.

    Brilliant player, excellent pundit and I wish him a speedy recovery.

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    Quote Originally Posted by McIntosh View Post
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    Souness as a player was nasty, malicious and extremely dirty. Not my cup of tea - ever. I had the misfortune to see first hand what he did to George McCluskey - it was horrific. Brian Clough accurately summed up Souness the player. He stated, "Souness is a coward. Like the dog in my street he is good at giving it but not good at taking it back". As for Billy Bremner, the man who you have just maligned in his battle with ill health he showed great courage and to his credit did not sell his story to the Sun. This last act sum up this self serving and greedy human being.

    You missed out, that he was a superb player who could dominate games from midifeld, pick out the killer passes, score goals and led Liverpool to five championships, three European cups and four league cups. As for Clough saying Souness is a coward, total nonsense he could dish it out and take it, not that many were willing to dish it out to him.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Scouse Hibee View Post
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    You missed out, that he was a superb player who could dominate games from midifeld, pick out the killer passes, score goals and led Liverpool to five championships, three European cups and four league cups. As for Clough saying Souness is a coward, total nonsense he could dish it out and take it, not that many were willing to dish it out to him.
    And 3 World Cup Finals squads.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Scouse Hibee View Post
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    You missed out, that he was a superb player who could dominate games from midifeld, pick out the killer passes, score goals and led Liverpool to five championships, three European cups and four league cups. As for Clough saying Souness is a coward, total nonsense he could dish it out and take it, not that many were willing to dish it out to him.
    Clough had a very effective way of dealing with Souness. While his record of 'success' is evident what cannot be denied is his part in the significant decline of Liverpool FC from a football world power. I must admit that I am impressed that you can forgive him selling his exclusive to the Sun. I know a lot of merseysiders do not share your ability to forgive.
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    Quote Originally Posted by McIntosh View Post
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    Souness as a player was nasty, malicious and extremely dirty. Not my cup of tea - ever. I had the misfortune to see first hand what he did to George McCluskey - it was horrific. Brian Clough accurately summed up Souness the player. He stated, "Souness is a coward. Like the dog in my street he is good at giving it but not good at taking it back". As for Billy Bremner, the man who you have just maligned in his battle with ill health he showed great courage and to his credit did not sell his story to the Sun. This last act sum up this self serving and greedy human being.

    Don Revie's gofer. And as nasty as they come.

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    As a player i never ever liked him, He was a durty *******!

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    Don Revie's gofer. And as nasty as they come.
    you have an interesting opinion about a man well known in Yorkshire for his charity work and in terms of football he was Scotland's most successful World Cup skipper.

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    Souness was a fantastic player who had everything. Was terrific technically and was as hard as nails. Every successful team back then had a hard man in midfield that did the job Souness did. The advantage Liverpool had was that combined with that steel was a superbly gifted footballer as well in one player. I loved watching him play, and I am an Everton man as well!!! Blotted his copy book big time for me when he signed for the huns and even worse when he started to turn into one of them. Hope he gets well though

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    Quote Originally Posted by Doddie View Post
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    Don Revie's gofer. And as nasty as they come.
    Hear what you say, but I actually though Giles, Charlton and Hunter were the worst.

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    Think Souness was a bit of a coward to be honest as the number of times he went over the ball was ridiculous. Broke the young Icelander Siggi Jonsson's ankle with a shocker.

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    Complete liberty taker. Hope he recovers.

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    Quote Originally Posted by McIntosh View Post
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    you have an interesting opinion about a man well known in Yorkshire for his charity work and in terms of football he was Scotland's most successful World Cup skipper.

    I can think of at least one actual Yorkshireman well-known for his charity work. He wasn't a man I'd have allowed over the door of my house, though. Strong Leeds connection as well.

    And being Don Revie's gofer - sorry, captain - isn't a recommendation, either.

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    Clough had a very effective way of dealing with Souness. While his record of 'success' is evident what cannot be denied is his part in the significant decline of Liverpool FC from a football world power. I must admit that I am impressed that you can forgive him selling his exclusive to the Sun. I know a lot of merseysiders do not share your ability to forgive.

    I'm impressed that you think you know my feelings on the issue with the Sun when I have not give you the slightest hint to them. Maybe you should be more impressed that I can show compassion to an ex player who served the club well during his playing career and that I am not the type of person to wipe out achievements from my memory because of someones later actions. A cheap shot from you by the way!

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    He's at home, on the mend and grateful for the kind wishes it seems. 😷

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    The King held/holds him in high regard. That tells me a lot in football terms. The fact he held down a place in the greatest Liverpool teams of all time should tell you another. Fair dues, he ended up with the manky huns and had an apparent youthful interest in the yams.

    Nobody is perfect. He did however, not give a toss and got into anyone and everyone on the pitch. Fair dues, sometimes he over stepped the mark. You could never call him a journeyman tho, uninterested and only there to make up numbers. You may not like the man for whatever reason but even his most hardened detractors must at least respect the fact he speaks his mind, doesn't give a **** and has been pretty much honest in all his fitba life, notwithstanding any onptich sneakery which you can bet, if done for us, would be acceptable.

    Shame he never played for Hibs - he would have been a good asset and a rock solid midfielder to boot.

    Anyways, wish him well.

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    He's at home, on the mend and grateful for the kind wishes it seems. 
    Good to hear Alf. Get well soon Graham

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    Souness the player generates divided commentary, and I guess that is to be expected, but I have nothing but praise for Souness the bloke, in the very short dealings I had with him.

    In the early days of the Oz branch I used to edit a monthly newsletter/magazine, which contained a 'celebrity profile' Q &A segment.

    In those pre internet days everything was done by snail mail or if we could wrangle it, by fax.

    Many questionnaires were forwarded all over the world to various 'celebrities' and many never responded.

    Graham Souness did, taking the time to personally write an answer to each of the questions in some length and posted it back to us.

    This was when he was manager of Rangers and yes, one of the questions related directly to the game he was sent off in at Easter Road.

    He was totally supportive of our efforts, and said that it was great that we still fervently supported Hibs from so far away.

    He didn't need to reply, as many didn't, but he took the time to do something that was not going to earn him any brownie points, and I think that says much about him, irrespective of some comments on here from people who perhaps have had no personal dealings with him.

    I hope he recovers fully, and that one day I get to shake his hand and personally thank him.

    I wish him well and a full and speedy recovery.

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    My wife's cousin played piano on the cruise ships. On one trip Souness (post Rangers job) was on a 3 month trip and he got to know him really well and said he was as decent a guy you could ever meet. Changed my view of him to be honest and after the one nil at Wembley when he showed his passion for Scotland I have liked him ever since. I absolutely despised him when he was at that long lost always to be forgotten Glasgow club. I was at the famous game at Easter Road - celebrated the sending off more than the goals. I remember the poor guy next to me after the first one went in with blood all over his face - asked him what had happened. Apparently he had fallen on the deck and yours truly had jumped all over his face - he thought it was hilarious - so did I after a few seconds and after I knew I wasn't going to get a doing. The previous game at ER I was also jumping about like a nutter ( three times - 2 for Albert's contribution and once because of Stuart Beedie's goal for Utd - we were celebrating anything at that point - a kettle could have boiled and we would have gone radio rental) but there wasn't as many folk about that day !

    Get well Mr S - you are really a good guy after all 😬

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    Quote Originally Posted by Sergey View Post
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    The guy was a complete thug and put many players out of the game.
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    His debut for Rangers at ER will forever live in my memory.
    correct

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    1 .................. An extremely talented football player who played in one of Europe's greatest ever club sides.

    2 .................. A decent pundit who speaks well and clearly knows the game

    3 .................. A nasty little thug, whose worst tackles went way beyond 'standing up for yourself' or 'letting them know you're there' and if he didn't end any careers it was more by luck than judgement.

    I wish 1 and 2 well.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Green Reaper View Post
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    Yep, nice guy was Jimmy, worked beside him at CDW(now Solaglass) at Northfield Broadway
    If you knew him at CDW, then you you would have known my uncle.....John Clark

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    Quote Originally Posted by Smartie View Post
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    Football in those days was nasty, malicious and extremely dirty at times.

    Souness could mix it like the very best/ worst of them, as well as being able to play.

    His debut for Rangers was not his finest hour but at least he has had the good grace to admit to some regret over it.

    Brilliant player, excellent pundit and I wish him a speedy recovery.
    This for me. A brilliant player first and foremost.

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