Top 2 leagues of 16 playing 30 games and a restructured league cup that includes all 32 teams in the top two leagues in a champions league style tournament with group stages would guarantee 36 games a season and a spare couple of weeks for a winter break to be included.This quote is hidden because you are ignoring this member. Show Quote
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03-08-2015 08:46 PM #31
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03-08-2015 08:50 PM #32
Why don't we just make it simple and have a 20 team league playing each other twice. A 20 team 2nd division doing the same.
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03-08-2015 09:58 PM #33This quote is hidden because you are ignoring this member. Show Quote
Plus ϛa change, plus c'est la même chose ...
That was how we did it in the 1960's when I were a mere slip of a lad who never imagined for a moment that half a century would pass me
by and STILL we wouldn't have won the Scottish Cup. The season began with the League Cup sections of four teams to a section, playing each other home and away, with the winners going into the quarter-finals.
And if I remember aright, the League was split into a First Division and a Second Division, and the First Division had no fewer than 18 teams in it ....
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03-08-2015 10:07 PM #34
34 games in the league is 1 less home game for Championship teams and 2 less for Premiership teams . ST prices won't fall but it's 2 games without walk-up money, hospitality etc. would clubs accept this?
As for a July League Cup, utterly bizarre. Why not have it midweek as it is now and used to be with the final before Christmas?
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03-08-2015 10:17 PM #35
I don't get the argument that the standard of the Scottish game has fallen? We are still exporting players to England in roughly the numbers we always did except they don't go to the premiership as much as that is now the preserve of the global elite. And now we get a lot more players from England coming up here as their top flight is shutting them out.
The standard these days is as good as when I started watching.
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03-08-2015 10:20 PM #36This quote is hidden because you are ignoring this member. Show Quote
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03-08-2015 10:46 PM #37
How many of those senior clubs get unsustainable gates of under 1000 fans?
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03-08-2015 10:48 PM #38This quote is hidden because you are ignoring this member. Show Quote
Wasn't that long ago teams from Scotland were playing in European finals. Now they're struggling to qualify. The National team hasn't made the finals of a competition since 1998. That suggests we're getting worse.
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03-08-2015 11:03 PM #39
I was under the impression any changes to league structure had to be voted through before the start of a new season..
Can anyone confirm ?
Would love a larger top league playing each team only twice - once home (sold out Derby etc) and once away - (larger travelling supports).
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03-08-2015 11:08 PM #40
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Big mistake with League Cup was delaying semis and final till after Christmas . Before it was a tournament that rewarded teams that did well for a few months ( Partick Thistle in 1970 , us in 1991 when we were top of the league as well as LC winners ) even if they didn`t have energy or resources to keep playing well all season . Playing semis and final several months after earlier rounds means it`s hard to keep interest and also means playing semis in worst weather and disrupting league . And means LC and SC going on at same time which isn`t ideal . As for groups , they mean lots of unimportant matches early in season or pre season . One year we beat St Johnstone 9 v 2 and drew 0 v 0 with Montrose both at home in final 2 group matches in front of tiny crowds ( 2000 v Montrose but that was day Pat Stanton left and we were already out of LC ) as Rangers won group . European qualifiers and glamour friendlies for Celtic ( and maybe even us ) will be more competition to LC group matches .
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04-08-2015 02:34 AM #41This quote is hidden because you are ignoring this member. Show Quote
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04-08-2015 07:39 AM #42
Long overdue I have never spoken to a fan of any team who does not think a larger leugue is required
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04-08-2015 08:21 AM #43This quote is hidden because you are ignoring this member. Show Quote
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04-08-2015 08:22 AM #44
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There will be no chance of League Reconstruction next Season, the likelihood is Sevco will be promoted this Season so in that sense the SPFL will say they'll want to see how the Premiership goes with Celtic and The Rangers 2012 in the same Division, they wont change it until they give that a go.
As for the League Cup format, group stages will hardly bring fans back to games, if knock out football where winner takes all won't appeal to fans then I fail to see how random group games will - the only way I see any kind of group games garnering interest would be if they regionalised the competiton, local-ish Derbies would get IMO be the only thing that will get fans interested in these games at the earlier stages
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04-08-2015 08:26 AM #45
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There is no more likelihood of them getting promoted than us...
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04-08-2015 08:40 AM #46
Almost everyone seems to favour larger leagues. Playing the same team four or more times a season is simply too often.
Group stages in the League Cup is an interesting idea. Devil would be in the detail though.
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04-08-2015 11:25 AM #47This quote is hidden because you are ignoring this member. Show Quote
They don't play 10 games after the split just now only 5.
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04-08-2015 11:39 AM #48This quote is hidden because you are ignoring this member. Show Quote
Dunfermline
Morton
Ayr Utd
Not much of a list. There is a chance that Airdrie or Livingston could join the list with 'much' better management and that some tiny club could do a Ross County, but both are unlikely IMO.
IMO the limit is 16. I know a lot of people don't like the split, but as far as I can see the only real problem with it has been that under the present structure it causes an imbalance of fixtures ..... EG .. Aberdeen away to Celtic twice and home once before the split. A bigger league would leave scope for 30 games home and away, followed by a top 6 playing 10 games home and away ... total 40 games. That leaves the bottom 10 with a total of 48 games, but its not like they will be in Europe.
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04-08-2015 11:56 AM #49This quote is hidden because you are ignoring this member. Show Quote
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I also wouldn't seed the league cup - free for all from the start would make it more interesting.
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04-08-2015 05:29 PM #52
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04-08-2015 05:32 PM #53
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Not really a gambling type......let's see where the prices are after the first 10 games...
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04-08-2015 05:51 PM #54
Guess a rangers win would be a terrible result for the bookies. I'd imagine most rangers fans (and probably a few jambos) have bet them already. The price isn't changing, its like the bookies are enticing them in and fancy them to be beaten.
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