Crowds - long term problem

[MSK]

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I got a text message from a lapsed Hibs fan after the game, and his question was "what the f*** happened this time".

Results like today's are NOT going to get former supporters back to ER, whether it's a crap cup or not.

Todays result has no bearing on my decision to renew, haven't as yet but will next week, along with the wife

[SkintHibby]

Ive now accepted we are a club in terminal decline and every passing day we are haemorraging fans - sometimes forever.

The humiliations on the pitch seem never ending.

[Ozyhibby]

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Ye just cannae help yerself, can ye?

You don't think it's a concern?

[sbell1875]

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How much was it? Cup top up for £30 and 2 games before the season starts in earnest is not bad value.

£15 for adults today and the same next weekend.

[hibs0666]

Long term decline is that more kids want to wear Barcelona tops than even the Tim's and Huns in Glasgow.

[emerald green]

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Todays result has no bearing on my decision to renew, haven't as yet but will next week, along with the wife

That's great, but you are not a lapsed supporter if you are renewing a season ticket.

The person who text me (and the many other lapsed supporters I'm referring to) is a former long term supporter of the club who stopped attending matches at a few seasons ago, and will have no reason to return following results like todays.

[magpie1892]

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St Mirren wouldn't have brought 3,500 Fans, so the comparison is pointless.

Much like the thread.

[jacomo]

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Aye bring on the summer football.

Never been convinced that switching to summer football would have the transformative effect that people claim for it.

Today's crowd shows why - so many alternatives, especially for families, on summer weekends, even if not away on holiday.

[scoopyboy]

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You don't think it's a concern?

Nope, not even slightly concerned.

Hearts scooshed the league last season and barely had that figure in home Scottish Cup ties against Celtic in the last two seasons.

[hibs0666]

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Never been convinced that switching to summer football would have the transformative effect that people claim for it.

Today's crowd shows why - so many alternatives, especially for families, on summer weekends, even if not away on holiday.

Bring on the snow and howling gales. Cannae wait.

[scoopyboy]

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That's great, but you are not a lapsed supporter if you are renewing a season ticket.

The person who text me (and the many other lapsed supporters I'm referring to) is a former long term supporter of the club who stopped attending matches at a few seasons ago, and will have no reason to return following results like todays.

If we had won 6-2 today would he have bought as season ticket?

Nah, thought not.

[hibs0666]

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Humiliation ? Behave yersel, today had no importance for me, I even went shopping with the wife, come the important games, the ones that I actually give a **** about then I will be there, today imo was just another bounce game 👍

Was another humping in a long line. Not good.

[MSK]

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If we had won 6-2 today would he have bought as season ticket?

Nah, thought not.

Yip, excuses now being churned out left right and centre

[NAE NOOKIE]

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Ive now accepted we are a club in terminal decline and every passing day we are haemorraging fans - sometimes forever.

The humiliations on the pitch seem never ending.

Hardly ...... FFS we had 5 players missing and our best player on the bench with his head turned to mince, add to that Malonga going off to be replaced by a raw teenager after half an hour and its not exactly the game to justify that level of panic. Terminal decline my arse.

[Mibbes Aye]

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Only 11,000 there today for a game against Rangers. 7500 Hibs fans.
That's lower than we would have got for a St. Mirren game a few years ago.
For all the lard work being put in by Leeann to re-engage the supporters, it appears as the fans are just not buying it.
Not sure what it's going to take to change this but it will need to happen soon.

The vast majority of replies will be about the football, Petrie, TV, blah, blah, blah.

The reality is that most people have had and will have less money in their pocket because we've been in an economic car crash for a few years and the way it's played out has meant that working people in Scotland are really starting to feel it now.

Folk simply don't have the money. It's easier to blame other things though.

[Pete]

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Ive now accepted we are a club in terminal decline and every passing day we are haemorraging fans - sometimes forever.

The humiliations on the pitch seem never ending.

What Morrisey song is that from?

[CraigHibee]

I've got cup top up and missed today as I'm on holiday

[Mibbes Aye]

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What Morrisey song is that from?

[hibs0666]

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**** the hearts.

[ALF TUPPER]

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😂😂😂

***** cup
Maybe a bit pricey for some
People are still on holiday
It was on TV
Lunchtime kick off.

Yep. All of the above

[emerald green]

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If we had won 6-2 today would he have bought as season ticket?

Nah, thought not.

Possibly not, I don't know and neither do you. But that's not the point.

If the score had been reversed, there's surely more chance that people will consider that things really have changed for the better on the pitch, results-wise. Folk will say things like..."6-2 for Hibs - that's brilliant!" What do you think they say when they hear today's result?

Anyone who thinks that Hibs getting trounced 6-2 at home to The Rangers, who many on this board were calling "crap" recently, is going to encourage lapsed supporters back to ER, never mind go to the expense of a season ticket, are living in cloud cuckoo land IMO.

[Ozyhibby]

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The vast majority of replies will be about the football, Petrie, TV, blah, blah, blah.

The reality is that most people have had and will have less money in their pocket because we've been in an economic car crash for a few years and the way it's played out has meant that working people in Scotland are really starting to feel it now.

Folk simply don't have the money. It's easier to blame other things though.

Crash not affect the yams?

[scoopyboy]

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Possibly not, I don't know and neither do you. But that's not the point.

If the score had been reversed, there's surely more chance that people will consider that things really have changed for the better on the pitch, results-wise. Folk will say things like..."6-2 for Hibs - that's brilliant!" What do you think they say when they hear today's result?

Anyone who thinks that Hibs getting trounced 6-2 at home to The Rangers, who many on this board were calling "crap" recently, is going to encourage lapsed supporters back to ER, never mind go to the expense of a season ticket, are living in cloud cuckoo land IMO.

I obviously wasn't happy with the score but my point was your texter is probably a lost cause irrespective of what happened.

I can't imagine any Hibs fan whatsoever would be cheering on hearing todays result but if that was the sole reason for not returning to Easter Road then they are probably right in staying away.

[Mibbes Aye]

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Crash not affect the yams?

Are you suggesting they are a sustainable long-term financial model?

Would sort of contradict some of your previous posts.

The point I was making and the point I would hope you would agree with is that clubs have to deal with their fanbase having less disposable income.

I think that's the biggest reason for crowds being down.

[derekduval]

I gave up my season ticket 2 years ago and generally can't be arsed. This season I will probably make 4 or 5 home games a couple of aways and a trip to hampden if we get there. Today my options were phone my mates who are lapsed season ticket holders, take my kids who had a birthday party so that was out, watch at home or in the pub or go to work and listen on the radio. I went to work. Unfortunately people have to many options nowadays. And this all before you bring in the excuses that it's too expensive (not including today), tv, constant change of days times, gettin football fix from sky, the fact we are ***** and constantly let the fans down. The main problem for the club is once you break the habit it's very difficult to get back in the routine, I certainly don't have the money burning a hole in my pocket or the time. Sad but true I just can't be bothered anymore and there's a few thousand just like me.

[marinello59]

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Ive now accepted we are a club in terminal decline and every passing day we are haemorraging fans - sometimes forever.

The humiliations on the pitch seem never ending.

Terminal decline? I know you love sticking the boot in to the club you claim to support but that's OTT even by your standards.

[hibs0666]

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Crash not affect the yams?

The charity thieves are irrelevant unless you want to go down the same path to hell.

[Ozyhibby]

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Are you suggesting they are a sustainable long-term financial model?

Would sort of contradict some of your previous posts.

The point I was making and the point I would hope you would agree with is that clubs have to deal with their fanbase having less disposable income.

I think that's the biggest reason for crowds being down.

The only point I was making is that their crowds are going up and ours are falling. Money is tight for both sets of fans so I don't see that as the reason for the decline at our club.

[Scouse Hibee]

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Possibly not, I don't know and neither do you. But that's not the point.

If the score had been reversed, there's surely more chance that people will consider that things really have changed for the better on the pitch, results-wise. Folk will say things like..."6-2 for Hibs - that's brilliant!" What do you think they say when they hear today's result?

Anyone who thinks that Hibs getting trounced 6-2 at home to The Rangers, who many on this board were calling "crap" recently, is going to encourage lapsed supporters back to ER, never mind go to the expense of a season ticket, are living in cloud cuckoo land IMO.

I would suggest that people have already made up their minds long before this game. Folk that want to watch Hibs this season will do so, folk that never had any intention will just use this as yet another reason on their long list.

[Ozyhibby]

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I would suggest that people have already made up their minds long before this game. Folk that want to watch Hibs this season will do so, folk that never had any intention will just use this as yet another reason on their long list.

Its a shame that people have a long list. :-(