Wake-up call

[The Leith Dutch]

Lost the diddy cup tie to them last season - albeit not as one sided - but won three out of four in the league.

Not happy about today but I reckoned yesterday we have a better starting XI than them and not changing that on one result.
Don't know enough to comment on their strength in depth but given their finances doubt it's anything to write home about.

****** it - take our licks, accept we were outplayed and get 9 points on the board before the ibrokes game.

[high bee]

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Are you suggesting this game will have a negative mental effect on the players? If you are I disagree as I believe we will analyse the game, look at the problems and sort them.


..or are you speaking as a rather pissed off fan. :-)

That's a tough one ad I can see both sides.

They should be embarrassed and champing at the bit to play those bar stewards again for some redemption. That's the mentality of winners.

Then it could be that the confidence has gone and we go into the next game against them so scared of a hiding that we gift them the game. As much as I want us to be strong mentally, nothing I saw today suggests our heads are I the right place. This is something we need to sort as much as anything else.

[gaz1875]

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Today we had Hanlon, Stevenson, Fontaine, Gray and Oxley all very very poor. I don't think that's happened before so you either call it a bad day at the office or you look at the fitness levels.

I personally don't think this result has any bearing on the league. Bette to get a wake up call today than 2 weeks from now.

As for folk moaning that we've too many injuries - it's luck FFS! Our squad is in good shape and we'll sign a few more before the end of August. Get a grip of yourselves

Hanlon? I thought he was okay, you could throw in Fyvie to your list, superb display of standing off players and ball watching.

[QMU-1875]

Main mistake made by Stubbs here is the amount of friendliest we played and the quality of the opposition. We played a piss poor friendly against Dunfermline and then half a side against Ayr united. Not good enough. As for Oxley and that back 4... Every time a ball went over the top they got caught out. So so poor

[Greenworld]

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Hanlon? I thought he was okay, you could throw in Fyvie to your list, superb display of standing off players and ball watching.

Hanlon gave away foul for first goal when no need......Hanlon didnt cut out cross for second goal when he should have......so game turned massively on his poor play....and not for the first time .

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[tamig]

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Wake up call? No, it's a poor manager with players that failed last season.

And this isn't a knee jerk reaction. I've said all along Stubbs' overall results have been poor.

Wouldn't expect anything less from you bud. Consistent as ever.

[Lago]

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Well let's see how we get on in the first few games then. I'm not going to make any judgements or have any idea of what our chances are until then.

Like last season league could be lost in those first 3 to 4 games if we lose the .

[gaz1875]

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Hanlon gave away foul for first goal when no need......Hanlon didnt cut out cross for second goal when he should have......so game turned massively on his poor play....and not for the first time .

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That was the first tackle he missed unfortunately led to the goal, Stevenson was more at fault with the 2nd?

[GreenCastle]

More goals lost just before and after half time.

Last season this was a big problem - especially early and late 2nd half.

We were fine for 30 mins then fell apart.

Frustrating for more injuries - 7 players now out injured.

Reminds me of Malmo and we all know how that season went..

Not end of the world but sevco are definitely favourites for the league - it's up to us to show them otherwise. Will take a while for us to get our injured players back !

Losing 6 goals at home to anyone is a disgrace.

[Pete]

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Like last season league could be lost in those first 3 to 4 games if we lose the .

Again...let's see how we do. I'm not sure our start will be as bad as last season.

[Sir David Gray]

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Are you suggesting this game will have a negative mental effect on the players? If you are I disagree as I believe we will analyse the game, look at the problems and sort them.


..or are you speaking as a rather pissed off fan. :-)

Undoubtedly.

[Greenworld]

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That was the first tackle he missed unfortunately led to the goal, Stevenson was more at fault with the 2nd?

But you cant miss them there mate youve got to make these.....in that area especially .....im not scapegoating paul the team collapsed....the manager and his team need to wake up......it was like their batteries ran out in the second half.
They are not fit enough not by miles

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[Lago]

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Again...let's see how we do. I'm not sure our start will be as bad as last season.

Truely I hope your right, other wise I can see hibs stuck in this division for years to come.

[Pete]

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Undoubtedly.

It might have a short term effect but by the time we play the zombies again it will be addressed and we should have some confidence from wins under our belt.

[familyman]

Yes Ken Dodd looks fitter than Hibs in this diddy cup tie.
An absolute shambles in defence,we miss Dylan for certain.While we have a few players out, it is the defence especially Stevenson whose distribution and positioning was shocking.Oxley though lost goals he should never have lost and we need to get our other keeper set up for next week..In a season where we MUST hit the ground running we must also take the ball with us!!!!It is no use at all winning against so called weaker sides if we freeze or as today just stop playing and give up..Stubbs has a lot to prove as we failed last year and on this early form he has loads of work to do...Training in Spain does not seem to have given us any edge, we ran out of steam ,but for me more to the point we ran out of enthusiasm and drive..we got what we deserved AND IT IS NOT GOOD ENOUGH.Deflated by S A maybe moving is not an excuse for professional players.If he goes he goes somewhere else though.The ease with which he glides past players is a joy to behold ,we have no-one else that can do that!
Opening 30 mins same old story of missed chances, Stanton took his goal well but other than that usual stuff.Trying to be objective it became almost target practise for Rangers at one point in second half...Get that team playing AS A TEAM and for 90 minutes...
shocker.
I am really angry by that performance..
Sorry to say that.

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At the end of the day we've been knocked out of the diddiest of diddy cups, one that I couldn't care less about Hibs winning.

The Rangers have been given a boost to their confidence today which is disappointing.

But sometimes you have to take positives from bad defeats. As long as we learn from it I don't care that we've lost that game.

It is very worrying that we defended as badly as we did, especially with our first-choice goalkeepers and defenders all playing.

We need to take our chances when we're on top - which we were for more than half an hour.

They looked fitter than us which is inexcusable at this stage, although we still have time before the league begins to shape up.

We can't let the Scott Allan saga continue to hang over us. If he's going to go, he needs to go asap but absolutely not to them.

This is a MASSIVE season for us and sloppiness anywhere must not be tolerated. There was plenty of it on show today and I would like to think that today might be the kick up the backside that we needed.

[Ricky Bobby]

Individual mistakes from defenders cost us dear today, but i don't think we were up to the job in the middle of the park. With the signing of a couple of midfielders before the window shuts we will be in a much better position to compete.
Also felt we were a bit undercooked today. A couple more pre season games before today would surely have helped.

[MSK]

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Main mistake made by Stubbs here is the amount of friendliest we played and the quality of the opposition. We played a piss poor friendly against Dunfermline and then half a side against Ayr united. Not good enough. As for Oxley and that back 4... Every time a ball went over the top they got caught out. So so poor

Playing against lesser opposition gives the team more ball time and allows for tactical decisions/ formations, would you rather we played against Real Madrid or Barcelona so we could be systematically destroyed ?

[gaz1875]

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But you cant miss them there mate youve got to make these.....in that area especially .....im not scapegoating paul the team collapsed....the manager and his team need to wake up......it was like their batteries ran out in the second half.
They are not fit enough not by miles

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Not saying he should, defenders give fouls in dangerous places, the free kick was top corner whether it should have been saved or not, placed perfectly. They are definitely miles off fitness wise, and with so many players now injured we could be in for a very poor start to the season

[Greenworld]

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Not saying he should, defenders give fouls in dangerous places, the free kick was top corner whether it should have been saved or not, placed perfectly. They are definitely miles off fitness wise, and with so many players now injured we could be in for a very poor start to the season

Agree

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[Deansy]

2-3 players with 'Bottle' desperately needed - sadly I'm struggling to recall any recent Hibs-players having that on their CV !!. Even 2-3 players with a wee bit of 'Pride in themselves' would do - the type of players who would NEVER allow such a shameful result !'Diddy-cup' or not, that result stands-up - unlike 95% of our team today !!

We need players who hate these **** as much as we do !!

[21.05.2016]

I couldn't care less that we are out that cup, in fact i'm actually quite glad it's out the way, we don't need any extra games in such an important season. However, it gives sevco a big psychological boost going into the new season and such a convincing win will no doubt have them brimming with confidence.

A bad run up to the season but we absolutely cannot afford to let this stifle our preparation. We have to learn from today.

[Hibernia&Alba]

Lots of hard work ahead, lots of improvement needed. Let's not panic; today was unacceptable, but may indeed prove a valuable wake up call. We have injuries, but the squad also needs additions.

[kaimendhibs]

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More goals lost just before and after half time.

Last season this was a big problem - especially early and late 2nd half.

We were fine for 30 mins then fell apart.

Frustrating for more injuries - 7 players now out injured.

Reminds me of Malmo and we all know how that season went..

Not end of the world but sevco are definitely favourites for the league - it's up to us to show them otherwise. Will take a while for us to get our injured players back !

Losing 6 goals at home to anyone is a disgrace.

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[jacomo]

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The Rangers are miles ahead of us in fitness. Our pre season has been piss poor. We should have been playing teams who are much better than us keeping us sharp. No we played a handful of crap!!!

Stubbs I've backed from day one but to lose at home 2-6 to them is horrific! He needs to sort this out and get some more new players in.

Is it possible that we've been preparing our players for a long season by working them very hard, and this base fitness will show?

I was impressed by our form post New Year last season, compared to the usual Hibs January slump.

I certainly hope so.

[SquashedFrogg]

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Lots of hard work ahead, lots of improvement needed. Let's not panic; today was unacceptable, but may indeed prove a valuable wake up call. We have injuries, but the squad also needs additions.

Whilst obviously disappointed today, walking back to the car with mates and the young lad I tried to put the game into perspective.

A few first teamers missing due to injury and the Scott Allan situation played a big part. Added to losing Malonga early and Forster. We lost something when Malonga went off and lacked depth to change things about. I'd have liked to have played Allan from the start.

A few strength Hibs would've hammered them. Could've/should've been 3 up after 30 mins.

Today also confirmed that I hate sevco more than the yams. Still find it astonishing that 3500 people can chant sectarian songs in 2015 and nothing happens about it? Disgrace. Something needs to be done, especially when you think children are hearing that bile.

Allan can leave if he wants but at our price and not to them. If he becomes a free agent in Jan, I'm certain that bigger clubs will be interested. I'd happily lose him on freedom of contract for nowt than him play for that mob ever.

[emerald green]

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Are you suggesting this game will have a negative mental effect on the players? If you are I disagree as I believe we will analyse the game, look at the problems and sort them.


..or are you speaking as a rather pissed off fan. :-)

Na, they will no doubt be brimming over with confidence after that display, and a 2-6 horsing like that, on their own pitch.

[NAE NOOKIE]

I said on another thread that I wasn't impressed with our pre season friendlies. The defence was a shambles at times today, strolling it for 90 minutes against Dunfermline and Ayr Utd isn't ideal preparation IMO and it showed.

The Huns did look fitter all over the park and the question has to be asked .... why?

I'm not wetting the bed over this result .... Having so many first pick options out injured is unfortunate and in no way helped us and at least it means we still have more to come .... but ye gods the sooner they are all fit the better, with hopefully another couple of decent players added before the window shuts.

Just a few things from the under 10s coaching manual the senior team seem to have forgotten:

1) .... If the defence has parted like the Red Sea and you are 18 yards out FFS shoot !!! ..... how many times today?

2) .... If you have set a player free to hit a low cross into the box at least one of your strikers should be heading for the near post ... at least 3 times in the 2nd half we got into that position and the ball was cleared by the Huns centre half from the middle of the 6 yard box without a Hibs player between him and the near post.

Malonga ................ I don't think I have ever seen the man play a game where he isn't bloody limping after the first 3 tackles on him .... he is either really unlucky or a frigging powder puff, unfortunately I'm beginning to think its the latter.

Anyway ...... If we don't learn from this cock up and get a grip its gonna be a long season.

[SquashedFrogg]

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I said on another thread that I wasn't impressed with our pre season friendlies. The defence was a shambles at times today, strolling it for 90 minutes against Dunfermline and Ayr Utd isn't ideal preparation IMO and it showed.

The Huns did look fitter all over the park and the question has to be asked .... why?

I'm not wetting the bed over this result .... Having so many first pick options out injured is unfortunate and in no way helped us and at least it means we still have more to come .... but ye gods the sooner they are all fit the better, with hopefully another couple of decent players added before the window shuts.

Just a few things from the under 10s coaching manual the senior team seem to have forgotten:

1) .... If the defence has parted like the Red Sea and you are 18 yards out FFS shoot !!! ..... how many times today?

2) .... If you have set a player free to hit a low cross into the box at least one of your strikers should be heading for the near post ... at least 3 times in the 2nd half we got into that position and the ball was cleared by the Huns centre half from the middle of the 6 yard box without a Hibs player between him and the near post.

Malonga ................ I don't think I have ever seen the man play a game where he isn't bloody limping after the first 3 tackles on him .... he is either really unlucky or a frigging powder puff, unfortunately I'm beginning to think its the latter.

Anyway ...... If we don't learn from this cock up and get a grip its gonna be a long season.

Had a few opportunities to 'have a pop'. If you don't shoot, you won't score. Especially against their 14 year old keeper.