La Manga

[Scouse Hibee]

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I think I'm quite entitled to ask why we are spending money on this trip. The board have had the begging bowl out trying to encourage fans to buy season tickets and invest in HSL yet spend thousands of pound on two trips abroad.

Of course you are entitled to ask....if the answer is the manager thinks it will serve as the best possible preparation for the season ahead, would you accept that?

[superfurryhibby]

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Indeed. Why do multi national companies spend thousands on bonding trips for their staff when they could do something that's maybe similar (to the untrained eye) in their own office?

I trust Stubbs and this is a bit picky. Will people next be questioning the club for hiring a coach for away games when they could go by megabus?

Not sure multi-national companies and a lower tier Scottish football team makes for a good comparison Peter.

I wonder what they do at La Manga in the middle of summer. Is it not rather warm to be playing outside?

[KirkyK]

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And add in the money we are squandering on women's football and it all adds upup.

What money would that be exactly?

[Scouse Hibee]

I get where you are coming from though,I often used to wonder why Rangers had to spend the night before a game in Edinburgh staying at the Caley.

[Kojock]

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Indeed. Why do multi national companies spend thousands on bonding trips for their staff when they could do something that's maybe similar (to the untrained eye) in their own office?

I trust Stubbs and this is a bit picky. Will people next be questioning the club for hiring a coach for away games when they could go by megabus?

How many companies take their workforce on a weeks all expenses trip abroad?

[brog]

The first thing Tom Hart did when he took over Hibs was to kit everyone out in smart suits, bring in a chef for lunch & generally ensure Hibs players felt they were part of a major club. I see our trip to La Manga in the same mode & if small things like this help us attract & retain players like Allan & Fyvie then IMO it's money well spent.

[Kojock]

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Of course you are entitled to ask....if the answer is the manager thinks it will serve as the best possible preparation for the season ahead, would you accept that?

Probably not as I don't see the benefits of spending all that money going abroad to a training camp when we have superb trading facilities at East Mains.

[Scouse Hibee]

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How many companies take their workforce on a weeks all expenses trip abroad?

Mine :-)

[Unseen work]

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All before the La Manga trip.

Except the 1-0 win in the second leg of the play off.

[Scouse Hibee]

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Probably not as I don't see the benefits of spending all that money going abroad to a training camp when we have superb trading facilities at East Mains.

Yes but we are giong to train not trade.;-)

[Kojock]

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The first thing Tom Hart did when he took over Hibs was to kit everyone out in smart suits, bring in a chef for lunch & generally ensure Hibs players felt they were part of a major club. I see our trip to La Manga in the same mode & if small things like this help us attract & retain players like Allan & Fyvie then IMO it's money well spent.

If we can't attract players with our training facilities and our stadium I hardly think a weeks trip to Spain would be a clincher.

[brog]

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How many companies take their workforce on a weeks all expenses trip abroad?

I would suggest thousands do exactly that for some of their workforce. I, with up to 100 others was fortunate enough to do this twice a year for over 20 years.

[Matty_Jack04]

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I think I'm quite entitled to ask why we are spending money on this trip. The board have had the begging bowl out trying to encourage fans to buy season tickets and invest in HSL yet spend thousands of pound on two trips abroad.

We're forecast for a week of rain, let's take yesterday and today as an example of what's to come...how much training would they do at East mains? When they go out to train on the wet parks how much more likely are slips accidental bad tackles? Also training in hotter temperatures is harder work with it being pre season and the main focus being fitness isn't hard work the main idea? Also getting them away as a unit will help the 2 new boys settle in and also whoever the trialists are as there with each other for the whole time.

Can hibs do anything without someone finding something to moan about?

[green day]

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Probably not as I don't see the benefits of spending all that money going abroad to a training camp when we have superb trading facilities at East Mains.

.....and that's why you do your job and those in charge of our team do theirs.

I.e.they (the people we trust to do the job) think it's the right thing.

You are entitled to your opinion, but what is it you want? A veto on club decisions?

[J-C]

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Probably not as I don't see the benefits of spending all that money going abroad to a training camp when we have superb trading facilities at East Mains.

To get away from the media, have a look at other players on trial without the glare of the press and to allow the new/any future new players to bond with their new team mates.

[Viva_Palmeiras]

Last I heard Hibs Ladies (from an employee dealing with the Foundation) were not funded at all by Hibs and they paid their own way and this was unlikely to happen as priority was funding of the first team.

Three words re the La Manga trip :

Psychological contract.

[bigwheel]

dear oh dear...now people are analysing how the management team choose to spend their pre season...why don't we simply judge them on results...if we go up, no one will care where we went...if Stubbs and co feel it's the right thing to do, then I'm a supporter....

[Kojock]

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.....and that's why you do your job and those in charge of our team do theirs.

I.e.they (the people we trust to do the job) think it's the right thing.

You are entitled to your opinion, but what is it you want? A veto on club decisions?

They thought it was the right thing to do prior to the play offs and we know how that turned out.

[Ronniekirk]

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And add in the money we are squandering on women's football and it all adds upup.

Think you have missed out a double C from up up

[J-C]

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They thought it was the right thing prior to the play offs and we know how that turned out.

Did they go away to La Manga prior to getting beat by Rangers at ER, I don't see your point.

[green day]

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They thought it was the right thing to do prior to the play offs and we know how that turned out.

Yes we do - and unless this is deliberate trolling you are conflating squad trips to the sun and strengthen morale with what happened in the playoffs?

So, in your mind la manga caused the loss to rangers?

Genius!

[Jonnyboy]

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They thought it was the right thing to do prior to the play offs and we know how that turned out.

I'm happy that this trip will have no detrimental effect on the player budget. Surely that's the crux of the matter?

[Chibs]

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Last I heard Hibs Ladies (from an employee dealing with the Foundation) were not funded at all by Hibs and they paid their own way and this was unlikely to happen as priority was funding of the first team.

Three words re the La Manga trip :

Psychological contract.

Think that's only two and what is a psychological contract?

[Jack]

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I think I'm quite entitled to ask why we are spending money on this trip. The board have had the begging bowl out trying to encourage fans to buy season tickets and invest in HSL yet spend thousands of pound on two trips abroad.

If you think you're entitled to ask why don't you email the club and get the definitive answer?

Let us know what the reply says :-)

[Kojock]

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Yes we do - and unless this is deliberate trolling you are conflating squad trips to the sun and strengthen morale with what happened in the playoffs?

So, in your mind la manga caused the loss to rangers?

Genius!

Where did I say La Manga was the reason we lost the play offs??? We went to La Manga in the hope it would give us an edge over Sevco, that unfortunately didn't happen. How do we know it will be beneficial this time round.

[3pm]

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I'm happy that this trip will have no detrimental effect on the player budget. Surely that's the crux of the matter?

The player budget or you being happy?!

[Scouse Hibee]

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Where did I say La Manga was the reason we lost the play offs??? We went to La Manga in the hope it would give us an edge over Sevco, that unfortunately didn't happen. How do we know it will be beneficial this time round.

Obviously the management saw the benefits of it or they wouldn't waste money on returning.

[Kojock]

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I'm happy that this trip will have no detrimental effect on the player budget. Surely that's the crux of the matter?

The crux of the matter is the money spent on La Manga should also be spent on the player budget.

[J-C]

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They thought it was the right thing to do prior to the play offs and we know how that turned out.

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Where did I say La Manga was the reason we lost the play offs??? We went to La Manga in the hope it would give us an edge over Sevco, that unfortunately didn't happen. How do we know it will be beneficial this time round.

In the quote above

[Jonnyboy]

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The player budget or you being happy?!

It seems the OP was worried that share/HSL/season ticket money was being used for this trip.