La Manga

[Scouse Hibee]

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The crux of the matter is the money spent on La Manga should also be spent on the player budget.

Do you not get that "the player budget" is exactly that for spending on players not just buying them.

[Kojock]

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Obviously the management saw the benefits of it or they wouldn't waste money on returning.

Must be like the Emperors New Clothes

[Boris]

The "Press" are there. Or at least the Evening News is. David Hardie travelled for the duration of the trip. Queen of South at La Manga this week too. Wouldn't surprise me if Hibs fit in a bounce game against them in addition to the already scheduled game against Wigan Athletic on Saturday evening.

[Kojock]

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Do you not get that "the player budget" is exactly that for spending on players not just buying them.

I'm perfectly aware what the "players budget" is, I just think a trip to La Manga is money that would be better spent elsewhere.

[Scouse Hibee]

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I'm perfectly aware what the "players budget" is, I just think a trip to La Manga is money that would be better spent elsewhere.

Where?

[3pm]

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I'm perfectly aware what the "players budget" is, I just think a trip to La Manga is money that would be better spent elsewhere.

How much is it anyway?!

[Matty_Jack04]

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Where?

We could bring back malpass

[PatHead]

I doubt the cost of going to La Manga would be more than a trip away to England or Ireland for a pre season friendly. Stubbs obviously feels the money is better spent going to Spain than playing friendlies in UK especially as we are seemingly playing a friendly against Wigan whilst we are away.

Would anyone be complaining if we were away to the North West of England/Ireland/Highlands for a few days?

Wonder if QoS supporters are moaning about the cost

[O'Rourke3]

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I'm perfectly aware what the "players budget" is, I just think a trip to La Manga is money that would be better spent elsewhere.

On what? Catering, Ticket Office, Security, Video, Contracts, Printing, Hospitality, Waste collection, Stewarding, Behind the goals. At some point all the money can't simply go into the squad and then depend on volunteers and amateurs running the actual business. Potentially the trip might be costing us one players salary of around £300ppw. That's before signing on/development or transfer fees and no inclusion of bonus or appearance.
Alternatively we could increase one player's salary - seems fair until that player gets injured or turns out to be a wage thief. Hang on we've re-signed everyone that we thought was worth signing......

Can we just let the professionals get on with running the club? There's another thread moaning about 8 signings by the start of July not being good enough when the last 4 or 5 seasons have had us bringing in players on the last day of the window,

[matty_f]

So, missing out on twenty grand by refusing The Rangers more tickets for the play-offs to keep the fans happy is fine, spending a similar amount on the recommendation of Stubbs for the benefit of the team is bad?

[Vault Boy]

There is absolutely no chance the board would allocate funding to a trip that would be of no benefit to the team, nor would the staff spend money on such a thing if it meant losing out on a player/depleating squad resources. There isn't even a hint of logic in negating this - if we couldn't afford it, we wouldn't do it.

[Pedantic_Hibee]

This thread is symptomatic of the internet....moaning over absolutely nothing. Wow. Just, wow.

[SlickShoes]

Usually we go away and play some friendlies, no one cares about that, now we go away for a week to train and have friendlies at home. Don't see what the fuss is about.

[tamig]

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This thread is symptomatic of the internet....moaning over absolutely nothing. Wow. Just, wow.

Indeed. And none of them even know if it's the club who are actually paying for this trip. Crazy stuff.

[HUTCHYHIBBY]

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They thought it was the right thing to do prior to the play offs and we know how that turned out.

If we hadn't gone we might have lost the tie by more than 1 goal.

[The_Sauz]

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I think I'm quite entitled to ask why we are spending money on this trip. The board have had the begging bowl out trying to encourage fans to buy season tickets and invest in HSL yet spend thousands of pound on two trips abroad.

Yes you are , but why ask on here? Would it not be better if you phoned or emailed LD

[Mibbes Aye]

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On what? Catering, Ticket Office, Security, Video, Contracts, Printing, Hospitality, Waste collection, Stewarding, Behind the goals. At some point all the money can't simply go into the squad and then depend on volunteers and amateurs running the actual business. Potentially the trip might be costing us one players salary of around £300ppw. That's before signing on/development or transfer fees and no inclusion of bonus or appearance.
Alternatively we could increase one player's salary - seems fair until that player gets injured or turns out to be a wage thief. Hang on we've re-signed everyone that we thought was worth signing......

Can we just let the professionals get on with running the club? There's another thread moaning about 8 signings by the start of July not being good enough when the last 4 or 5 seasons have had us bringing in players on the last day of the window,

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So, missing out on twenty grand by refusing The Rangers more tickets for the play-offs to keep the fans happy is fine, spending a similar amount on the recommendation of Stubbs for the benefit of the team is bad?

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This thread is symptomatic of the internet....moaning over absolutely nothing. Wow. Just, wow.

Course if Petrie and Farmer hadn't pocketed the car park money, our pre-season would be Bayern Munich. Real Madrid c.1960, the New York Yankees and then The Marvel Avengers, all at home and we would be sitting in hollow glass thrones filled with unicorn tears, sipping exquisite champagne.

Just saying, like

[MWHIBBIES]

Of all the things we could complain about at ER we chose this is the best we could do?

I trust Alan Stubbs, a guy with nearly 500 league games and 7 years coaching experience to make the right decision.

I also trust his the input of his coaching staff

Andy Holden - 19 years coaching at Everton
John Doolan - 7 years at Everton

and both our sports scientist and fitness coaches Craig Flanagan and Paul Green. Do you guys seriously think you know better than these people?

[NadeAteMyLunch!]

I may be wrong, but I would suggest the fact we are returning to the exact same place within such a short space of time means it really isn't that expensive for us to go. We won't be spending what we can't afford.

[IanM]

whats the difference between going to train abroad and (from what I've been told) a few competitive matches than say going to Gibralter a few seasons back for a pre season tour? Is it because that fans haven't been invited?

Doesn't bother me what they do mind, I remember Stubbs said the last time he was able to keep an eye on what they were all eating so if we have that early in the season rather than before our biggest game, surely that's a good thing?

[Gatecrasher]

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This thread is symptomatic of the internet....moaning over absolutely nothing. Wow. Just, wow.

the boredom must be strong this summer.

[Jack]

Bogof ;-)

[poolman]

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This thread is symptomatic of the internet....moaning over absolutely nothing. Wow. Just, wow.

Could not agree more

Bloody drama Queens moaning about a five day trip to La Manga

Mind boggling

[blackpoolhibs]

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I doubt the cost of going to La Manga would be more than a trip away to England or Ireland for a pre season friendly. Stubbs obviously feels the money is better spent going to Spain than playing friendlies in UK especially as we are seemingly playing a friendly against Wigan whilst we are away.

Would anyone be complaining if we were away to the North West of England/Ireland/Highlands for a few days?

Wonder if QoS supporters are moaning about the cost

I wouldnt have thought so, especially if Hibs are picking up that tab too?

[lord bunberry]

I heard the players chipped in for it as long as they could go out on the lash every night after training

[hibs0666]

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My point is that all monies should be invested in the team and not spent taking them to Spain.

The trip is an investment in the team.

[jdships]

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Indeed. Why do multi national companies spend thousands on bonding trips for their staff when they could do something that's maybe similar (to the untrained eye) in their own office?

I trust Stubbs and this is a bit picky. Will people next be questioning the club for hiring a coach for away games when they could go by megabus?

Message No 30 and a reasonably objective/ sensible post at last !!!!

[Arch Stanton]

I would question the assumption the a get-together would be cheaper in Scotland than Spain - unless they were taken youth hostelling maybe.

[Kojock]

Oh dear some touchy wee souls on here. I merely posed the question that as we have a state of the art training centre is there any benefit in spending money going abroad to another training camp. It not a moan or a dig at Stubbsy, just an observation.

[CapitalGreen]

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Oh dear some touchy wee souls on here. I merely posed the question that as we have a state of the art training centre is there any benefit in spending money going abroad to another training camp. It not a moan or a dig at Stubbsy, just an observation.

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Stubbs knows best

Does he ?

That's a dig