Good luck Slovenia.

[Deansy]

The 'Rivalry' would be greatly reduced if commentary-teams (BBC/ITV/SKY etc) approached a game taking into account there are TWO teams playing - Slovenia's goal was all the fault of the English-defence and that they should've done this/that etc, etc, with no credit at all given to how well-executed the Slovenian-goal was. The talk continued in the same vein in the studio at half-time which was enough for me.

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The 'Rivalry' would be greatly reduced if commentary-teams (BBC/ITV/SKY etc) approached a game taking into account there are TWO teams playing - Slovenia's goal was all the fault of the English-defence and that they should've done this/that etc, etc, with no credit at all given to how well-executed the Slovenian-goal was. The talk continued in the same vein in the studio at half-time which was enough for me.

Yeh I agree . and possibly if stv showed scotland games instead of us having Scottish television ram england games down our throat

[easty]

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The 'Rivalry' would be greatly reduced if commentary-teams (BBC/ITV/SKY etc) approached a game taking into account there are TWO teams playing - Slovenia's goal was all the fault of the English-defence and that they should've done this/that etc, etc, with no credit at all given to how well-executed the Slovenian-goal was. The talk continued in the same vein in the studio at half-time which was enough for me.

The rivalry wouldn't be reduced for me no matter what anyone did.

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Yep, it's called sporting rivalry and England are our oldest adversaries. That ain't racism and to suggest so is ridiculous.

Exactly, FFS i even live in England and wind the f out of my mates whenever they are knocked out a tourney. And they take the piss because we've not even qualified.

Not bitter, not racist, just football fans having a bit of banter with their rivals.

[Scouse Hibee]

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The 'Rivalry' would be greatly reduced if commentary-teams (BBC/ITV/SKY etc) approached a game taking into account there are TWO teams playing - Slovenia's goal was all the fault of the English-defence and that they should've done this/that etc, etc, with no credit at all given to how well-executed the Slovenian-goal was. The talk continued in the same vein in the studio at half-time which was enough for me.

No it wouldn't, the rivalry is far older than any daft tv commentary upsetting a few precious jocks :-(

[Keith_M]

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They are, fortunately taking the pish and some good old banter are not. ;-)

Disclaimer: If I have offended anyone......... tough **** :-)

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Exactly, FFS i even live in England and wind the f out of my mates whenever they are knocked out a tourney. And they take the piss because we've not even qualified.

Not bitter, not racist, just football fans having a bit of banter with their rivals.

Ah the ' banter ' where would we be with out it?

[Scouse Hibee]

Are folk seriously suggesting that racism and bigotry is the source of the England-Scotland jibes on here?????

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They are, fortunately taking the pish and some good old banter are not. ;-)

Disclaimer: If I have offended anyone......... tough **** :-)

Speaking personally I find it hard to take pleasure in any of the sides from the former Yugoslavia winning - there's a degree of cynicism about them that really puts me off. I don't think it's racist - just a reaction to the way they conduct themselves.

At least one of those Slovenian players should have been punted for the way he was using his elbows, and their last sub was a right wee toerag.

Mind you, I would also suggest that McCarthy should have walked for his elbowing against us.

AND their goal was offside!

Not too sure about England's back line, but on the whole that was a good game of football and the right team won.

[Lago]

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Speaking personally I find it hard to take pleasure in any of the sides from the former Yugoslavia winning - there's a degree of cynicism about them that really puts me off. I don't think it's racist - just a reaction to the way they conduct themselves.

At least one of those Slovenian players should have been punted for the way he was using his elbows, and their last sub was a right wee toerag.

Mind you, I would also suggest that McCarthy should have walked for his elbowing against us.

AND their goal was offside!

Not too sure about England's back line, but on the whole that was a good game of football and the right team won.

Totally agree with every point you make.

[DH1875]

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Speaking personally I find it hard to take pleasure in any of the sides from the former Yugoslavia winning - there's a degree of cynicism about them that really puts me off. I don't think it's racist - just a reaction to the way they conduct themselves.

Croatia game this weekend was played behind closed doors because of their fans actions in their other games. So what did they do, cut a massive swatsztica(SP?) Into the pitch for the world to see their message. Not good.

[HUTCHYHIBBY]

These former Iron Curtain countries are magnificent places to visit, even allowing for some of the more questionable political views some of the residents may hold.

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Are folk seriously suggesting that racism and bigotry is the source of the England-Scotland jibes on here?????

Nah, it's just attention seeking from people who can't really explain their rationale bu like getting a reaction. Sport without rivalry is like a garden without a flower or a raindrop without a shower .

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Yeh I agree . and possibly if stv showed scotland games instead of us having Scottish television ram england games down our throat

If you don't want to watch an England game, just switch channels. It's dead easy. Nobody is ramming anything down anyone's throat.

Did you watch the Slovenia v England game BTW? Good game and some good goals.

[liamh2202]

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If you don't want to watch an England game, just switch channels. It's dead easy. Nobody is ramming anything down anyone's throat.

Did you watch the Slovenia v England game BTW? Good game and some good goals.

Not really my point why should the england game be shown free in Scotland but not the Scotland game? Its outrageous. And no I never watched it . was watching a film with the kids

[HibbyAndy]

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Not really my point why should the england game be shown free in Scotland but not the Scotland game? Its outrageous. And no I never watched it . was watching a film with the kids

What fulm ?

[Lago]

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Not really my point why should the england game be shown free in Scotland but not the Scotland game? Its outrageous. And no I never watched it . was watching a film with the kids

Because the SFA sold it to SKY.

[liamh2202]

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What fulm ?

I watched home , was very enjoyable :)

[Lago]

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If you don't want to watch an England game, just switch channels. It's dead easy. Nobody is ramming anything down anyone's throat.

Did you watch the Slovenia v England game BTW? Good game and some good goals.

[liamh2202]

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Because the SFA sold it to SKY.

Or because stv wouldn't pay for it?

[HibbyAndy]

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I watched home , was very enjoyable :)

It's barry eh

[Lago]

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Or because stv wouldn't pay for it?

Yip, all about the market forces, highest bidder gets the prize.

[emerald green]

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Yip, all about the market forces, highest bidder gets the prize.

But that's outrageous.

[blackpoolhibs]

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If you don't want to watch an England game, just switch channels. It's dead easy. Nobody is ramming anything down anyone's throat.

Did you watch the Slovenia v England game BTW? Good game and some good goals.

Speak for yourself.

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Speak for yourself.

I'm just not going to comment though!!

[cabbageandribs1875]

i'd close my curtains if engerlund were playing in my back garden(yeah i know blah blah), unless they were playing one of the real big guns in football and liable to get beat (even better on penalties) 49 years without a big cup win ? ...poor poor show for a country of 54 million