Everything that's wrong with Scottish Football

**NAE NOOKIE** · 30-05-2015 11:45 AM

Originally Posted by emerald green

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Today's Scottish Cup final just seems pretty small-time compared to the FA Cup final.

Anyway, good luck to ICT & Yogi Hughes. Hope they win their first ever Scottish Cup.

It will be interesting to see if Houston / Falkirk "park the bus" like they did against Hibs. If they do, I hope ICT score early doors and go on to hammer them.

It is small time compared to the FA cup final. The only thing I just don't get is why people feel the need to draw comparisons, this weekend or for any other games. If I lived in Glasgow I would definitely go along to support the final, but it doesn't look like the weegies have that attitude, football loving city my backside.

Anyway ..... here's a bit of perspective:

Scottish cup final: ICT from Inverness ( Pop 60,000 ) v Falkirk ( Pop 34,000 )

FA cup final: Arsenal from North London ( Pop 4,700,000 ) v Aston Villa from Birmingham ( Pop 1,085,000 )

The division 2 championship play off final 2015: Southend ( Pop 170,000 ) v Wycombe Wanderers from High Wycombe ( Pop 120,000 ) .... attendance 38,000. If Southend was in Scotland it would be our 4th biggest city in front of Dundee.

***superfurryhibby*** · 30-05-2015 11:51 AM

Originally Posted by Half Pint

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I'm easily embarrassed Nando that's why I support our wonderful club .

Fwiw I think it's a great achievement by both sets of fans but it still won't look good on the Scottish game to see a half empty stadium on TV.

But it won't be half empty , it will be 2/3 full. Hampden holds c50,000 and the expected crowd is 35.000!

***Carheenlea*** · 30-05-2015 11:55 AM

27,000 fans will be having an absolutely brilliant time, enjoying the excitement, anticipation and build up of a Scottish Cup Final on a sunny May Saturday. Cold beer never tastes so good as those before a Cup Final. I won`t be watching, and don`t really care who wins, but not going to deny that I envy every fan at Hampden today. Hopefully we can get back there soon.

**Scottie** · 30-05-2015 12:49 PM

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But it won't be half empty , it will be 2/3 full. Hampden holds c50,000 and the expected crowd is 35.000!

35,000 says who ?

***superfurryhibby*** · 30-05-2015 01:05 PM

Originally Posted by Half Pint

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35,000 says who ?

Me.

They have sold already sold more than 27,000 to fans. Add the corporate and complimentary and that figure seems about right.

Dundee Utd v Ross County attracted well over 40,000. I can see today's game being close to that in number. Certainly way more than the 25,000 your post predicts.

What makes you think it will be only 25,000?

***Billy Whizz*** · 30-05-2015 05:09 PM

Official crowd was 37,149, pretty decent turn out

**liamh2202** · 30-05-2015 05:23 PM

Originally Posted by Half Pint

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Because it is the National showpiece game of the Scottish calander . A half empty stadium is an embarrassment when football fans over the world are looking in. IMHO.

Even at the reduced ticket prices the SFA will have failed to get the neutral fan to bother making an effort to go to the game.

If you get embarrassed by this you need to stop worrying so much about what other people think

**emerald green** · 30-05-2015 06:45 PM

Originally Posted by NAE NOOKIE

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It is small time compared to the FA cup final. The only thing I just don't get is why people feel the need to draw comparisons, this weekend or for any other games. If I lived in Glasgow I would definitely go along to support the final, but it doesn't look like the weegies have that attitude, football loving city my backside.

Anyway ..... here's a bit of perspective:

Scottish cup final: ICT from Inverness ( Pop 60,000 ) v Falkirk ( Pop 34,000 )

FA cup final: Arsenal from North London ( Pop 4,700,000 ) v Aston Villa from Birmingham ( Pop 1,085,000 )

The division 2 championship play off final 2015: Southend ( Pop 170,000 ) v Wycombe Wanderers from High Wycombe ( Pop 120,000 ) .... attendance 38,000. If Southend was in Scotland it would be our 4th biggest city in front of Dundee.

I'm not sure why you don't get it. I thought this was a messageboard to chat about Hibs and football in general? I simply had an opinion and posted accordingly. What you maybe really meant was not that you don't get it, it's more that you don't like it?

Posters make comparisons about all sorts of stuff on this forum - teams, managers, players, stadia, and so on. What's so different about this?

I'm well aware that the respective populations in England and Scotland differ greatly and in fact, pro-rata, I've heard that attendances at football matches in Scotland is quite good compared to some other countries with larger populations.

***Mr White*** · 30-05-2015 06:49 PM

Originally Posted by Billy Whizz

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Official crowd was 37,149, pretty decent turn out

Great turn out. Well done yogi and russell. Suck it up Houston.

**Sir David Gray** · 30-05-2015 06:54 PM

Originally Posted by Pretty Boy

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I don't really see why a neutral would want to go. It's a cup final not involving my team so I have no inclination to travel to Glasgow to watch it. Whilst there will undoubtedly be neutrals there I don't see the appeal. I'm sure a lot of folk feel the same, as opposed to the SFA failing to get fans along.

I don't have the slightest inclination to go to any Scottish football match that doesn't involve Hibs.

**Scottie** · 30-05-2015 06:56 PM

Originally Posted by liamh2202

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If you get embarrassed by this you need to stop worrying so much about what other people think

Maybe your right.

You always seem to be right in your opinion.

**liamh2202** · 30-05-2015 07:02 PM

Originally Posted by Half Pint

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Maybe your right.

You always seem to be right in your opinion.

Surely everyone thinks their opinion is right? Otherwise it would be a silly opinion to have? ;)

**jabis** · 30-05-2015 07:06 PM

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27 k for a Scottish Cup Final is embarrassing but I hope the fans of both teams have a great day out.

Just wish it was us there today.

Your all heart x

**Scottie** · 30-05-2015 07:12 PM

Originally Posted by liamh2202

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Surely everyone thinks their opinion is right? Otherwise it would be a silly opinion to have? ;)

yeah ha we finally agree on something

Originally Posted by jabis

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Your all heart x

Cheers bud

**Betty Boop** · 30-05-2015 07:26 PM

Originally Posted by Pretty Boy

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I don't really see why a neutral would want to go. It's a cup final not involving my team so I have no inclination to travel to Glasgow to watch it. Whilst there will undoubtedly be neutrals there I don't see the appeal. I'm sure a lot of folk feel the same, as opposed to the SFA failing to get fans along.

Heard 100 went from the Tor.

**emerald green** · 30-05-2015 07:30 PM

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Heard 100 went from the Tor.

I thought I saw a green and white flag/banner in the ICT end. Or am I imagining things or need my eyes tested?

**Betty Boop** · 30-05-2015 07:34 PM

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I thought I saw a green and white flag/banner in the ICT end. Or am I imagining things or need my eyes tested?

A good few Hibbys there and at least one Jambo ! lol

**NAE NOOKIE** · 30-05-2015 07:37 PM

Originally Posted by emerald green

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I'm not sure why you don't get it. I thought this was a messageboard to chat about Hibs and football in general? I simply had an opinion and posted accordingly. What you maybe really meant was not that you don't get it, it's more that you don't like it?

Posters make comparisons about all sorts of stuff on this forum - teams, managers, players, stadia, and so on. What's so different about this?

I'm well aware that the respective populations in England and Scotland differ greatly and in fact, pro-rata, I've heard that attendances at football matches in Scotland is quite good compared to some other countries with larger populations.

I think most folk would accept not getting it and not liking it as one and the same in the context I used it.

**emerald green** · 30-05-2015 07:43 PM

Originally Posted by Betty Boop

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A good few Hibbys there and at least one Jambo ! lol

I was really chuffed for Yogi.

He was also very gracious in his remarks after the final whistle where he said Falkirk were the better team in the second half. Unlike the way Houston spoke about Hibs after the semi final.

Football really is a funny old game. Butcher leaves ICT, and he takes Hibs down. Yogi leaves Hibs, goes to ICT (via Hartlepool was it? - can't remember) and he wins the Scottish Cup.

**jodjam** · 30-05-2015 07:44 PM

Having a beer in Inverness bar just now. It's like final never happened. Just Huns going on about tomorrow. Guess city will erupt when fans return

**emerald green** · 30-05-2015 07:45 PM

Originally Posted by NAE NOOKIE

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I think most folk would accept not getting it and not liking it as one and the same in the context I used it.

Thanks for clearing that up. Just wondering why you don't like it.

**liamh2202** · 30-05-2015 07:50 PM

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Having a beer in Inverness bar just now. It's like final never happened. Just Huns going on about tomorrow. Guess city will erupt when fans return

And in one post you have nailed exactly what is wrong with Scottish football.. I hope it does liven up later for you but I wouldn't hold my breath.

**SquashedFrogg** · 30-05-2015 08:10 PM

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I don't have the slightest inclination to go to any Scottish football match that doesn't involve Hibs.

Not done so much in the last few years but me and some mates used to pick an end of season promotion / cup final match and really enjoy it. Soak up the atmosphere and appreciate what football means to people.

Clearly it's not the same as watching Hibs win, but as 'football fans' it's a great experience...

*I even ran on the pitch at Brockville once when Falkirk won the league!!*

Good for the footballing soul IMO

**jabis** · 30-05-2015 08:12 PM

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And in one post you have nailed exactly what is wrong with Scottish football.. I hope it does liven up later for you but I wouldn't hold my breath.

All the Inverness fans are coming back from Glasgow !!??!!

**mca** · 30-05-2015 08:13 PM

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And in one post you have nailed exactly what is wrong with Scottish football.. I hope it does liven up later for you but I wouldn't hold my breath.

Hopefully some of the Local Kids will Now Want to Go and Watch ICT after Today... but...

**Betty Boop** · 30-05-2015 08:19 PM

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I was really chuffed for Yogi.

He was also very gracious in his remarks after the final whistle where he said Falkirk were the better team in the second half. Unlike the way Houston spoke about Hibs after the semi final.

Football really is a funny old game. Butcher leaves ICT, and he takes Hibs down. Yogi leaves Hibs, goes to ICT (via Hartlepool was it? - can't remember) and he wins the Scottish Cup.