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    Quote Originally Posted by johnbc70 View Post
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    Apologies, was not meaning your post.

    Although I can make a wild assumption that all 4,000 nurses never stated Brexit and the Tories if they had an exit interview.


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    Quote Originally Posted by Mibbes Aye View Post
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    There's a shortage of nurses for a number of reasons. For example, community learning disability nurses were recruited to in big numbers at the time of LD hospital closures and 'care in the community'. A significant chunk of them have reached or are reaching an age where they are looking at retirement or are unable to continue due to the higher impact of musculo-skeletal conditions from doing a physically demanding job for decades. The infill of new graduates has never been enough.

    In some parts of the country the shortage is self-perpetuating. Nursing homes are very reliant on agency nurses - they need a certain proportion of nurses to meet their registration requirements - and Health Boards are similarly increasingly dependent. The agencies can therefore charge an extremely high rate and offer far better rates to the agency staff, along with flexibility of working hours, meaning you have staff leaving health boards and nursing homes just to end up going back there as agency nurses but at a greater cost. It's somewhat of a vicious circle.
    Thanks, good to get some insight into why.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Stranraer View Post
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    the only BBC bias I've ever seen is pro-union stuff from BBC Scotland and Sarah Smith giving Labour politicians an easy time in England.
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    Quote Originally Posted by johnbc70 View Post
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    Yep, always someone else's fault.
    When are you and your Tory pals ever going to own your policies, or is it always someone else's fault. 😂


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    When are you and your Tory pals ever going to own your policies, or is it always someone else's fault. 😂
    So you believe all 4,000+ nurses that left NHS Scotland last year was down to solely Brexit and the Tories? Despite Health being devolved to the Scottish Government their stellar management of everything health related was undone by these 2 things?

    That seems to be what you are suggesting unless I am mistaken? A Yes or No would be great, no deflection tactics.

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    Quote Originally Posted by johnbc70 View Post
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    So you believe all 4,000+ nurses that left NHS Scotland last year was down to solely Brexit and the Tories? Despite Health being devolved to the Scottish Government their stellar management of everything health related was undone by these 2 things?

    That seems to be what you are suggesting unless I am mistaken? A Yes or No would be great, no deflection tactics.
    I think he's trying to point out that those 4000 are not leaving solely down to the SNP which seems to be the point your arguing?

    The reality is, like it or not, Brexit is clearly having an impact, the SNP simply can't be held responsible for the very similar losses elsewhere across the UK. That's not to say that the SNP policies couldn't be driving some losses here as well just as the Tories are doing similar elsewhere, we simply don't know by how much as opposed to the Brexit effect.

    The question is, from a Scottish perspective, under the financial constraints of the current UK wide set up what do you feel that the Labour leadership in Scotland could do differently to stop the losses and in turn entice me back to vote for them? ..... OR the Tory leadership! I got mixed up what thread I was on lol
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    Quote Originally Posted by johnbc70 View Post
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    How about. "NHS staff to get immediate 3% pay rise in bid to attract back the 4,000+ nurses that quit last year."
    Well I suppose that's Ronaldo's spin question kinda answered.

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    Quote Originally Posted by johnbc70 View Post
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    So you believe all 4,000+ nurses that left NHS Scotland last year was down to solely Brexit and the Tories? Despite Health being devolved to the Scottish Government their stellar management of everything health related was undone by these 2 things?

    That seems to be what you are suggesting unless I am mistaken? A Yes or No would be great, no deflection tactics.
    Now you're being silly. Imagine thinking that I wouldn't know that some nurses had passed away, moved jobs, retired, started a family or any manor of other things.

    Brexit is one of those things just making it worse, Oh and your immigration policy of course.

    A long winded way of saying No


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    Now you're being silly. Imagine thinking that I wouldn't know that some nurses had passed away, moved jobs, retired, started a family or any manor of other things.

    Brexit is one of those things just making it worse, Oh and your immigration policy of course.

    A long winded way of saying No
    Great, just when you said 'after returning home' seemed to suggest they were from not here. Thanks for clearing up though.

    I don't have an immigration policy, unless I wrote one and published it without me remembering it.

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    Quote Originally Posted by ACLeith View Post
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    Conspiracy theorist = someone who espouses views contrary to mainstream thinking and who you disagree with

    Courageous seeker of truth = someone who espouses views contrary to mainstream thinking and who you agree with
    The mainstream media is just there to tell you what they want...not necesseraly the truth.
    Look up Operation Mockingbird.
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    Quote Originally Posted by johnbc70 View Post
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    Great, just when you said 'after returning home' seemed to suggest they were from not here. Thanks for clearing up though.

    I don't have an immigration policy, unless I wrote one and published it without me remembering it.
    Straw clutching much.

    Returning home is a normal saying amongst people who've made their new lives in other countries, just like our Aussie/New Zealand hibbies on this board. Just take a look on the Scottish cup threads to see how many of them were returning home for the cup final.

    You'll really need to up your game bud.

    I thought you were a Tory supporter/party member, and were fully up to speed with Theresa and her hostile environment policy?

    You support and vote for the Tories, don't you?

    Maybe someone else did it and ran away, you seem rather happy quoting that in your posts.


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    Quote Originally Posted by johnbc70 View Post
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    So you believe all 4,000+ nurses that left NHS Scotland last year was down to solely Brexit and the Tories? Despite Health being devolved to the Scottish Government their stellar management of everything health related was undone by these 2 things?

    That seems to be what you are suggesting unless I am mistaken? A Yes or No would be great, no deflection tactics.
    pretty much

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    I see an MP is calling for social media to be regulated because of fake news. Perhaps he should look at the BBC first. Not so much for what they report, more for what they don't.

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    I see an MP is calling for social media to be regulated because of fake news. Perhaps he should look at the BBC first. Not so much for what they report, more for what they don't.
    Any examples of what you feel should have been reported but was not?

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    Quote Originally Posted by johnbc70 View Post
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    Any examples of what you feel should have been reported but was not?
    I'm not saying one is better than the other, but a good exercise is to watch reports of a massacre, such as the Bataclan, and see how they differ between RT and the BBC.

    Both sides report some aspects of the story that the other side are keen to ignore.

    More recently the BBC reported on the imminent arrest (which never happened) of a 70 year old man, that didn't actually happen, even though they'd spent a fortune on a helicopter to cover the event.

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    I'm not saying one is better than the other, but a good exercise is to watch reports of a massacre, such as the Bataclan, and see how they differ between RT and the BBC.

    Both sides report some aspects of the story that the other side are keen to ignore.

    More recently the BBC reported on the imminent arrest (which never happened) of a 70 year old man, that didn't actually happen, even though they'd spent a fortune on a helicopter to cover the event.
    Also their news programs are so one sided in relation to Brexit and the independence referendum itís beyond parody. As the national main broadcaster they are supposed to impartial

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    Quote Originally Posted by Chic Murray View Post
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    I'm not saying one is better than the other, but a good exercise is to watch reports of a massacre, such as the Bataclan, and see how they differ between RT and the BBC.

    Both sides report some aspects of the story that the other side are keen to ignore.

    More recently the BBC reported on the imminent arrest (which never happened) of a 70 year old man, that didn't actually happen, even though they'd spent a fortune on a helicopter to cover the event.
    I thought the point was news worthy items they don't report on, not what they do report on?

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    Will be interested to see the figures attending the all under one banner march today. Huge convoy headed up the A9 this morning.
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    Seeing tweets that the BBC have managed to get at least 2 Pro indy YouTube channels suspended.

    No bias there then.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Golden Fleece View Post
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    Seeing tweets that the BBC have managed to get at least 2 Pro indy YouTube channels suspended.

    No bias there then.
    Excuse my ignorance, but how does the BBC manage to get a YouTube channel shut down? What's their vested interest?

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    Quote Originally Posted by speedy_gonzales View Post
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    Excuse my ignorance, but how does the BBC manage to get a YouTube channel shut down? What's their vested interest?
    I was wondering that. Copyright issues maybe? It's on twitter though so it must be true.
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    Quote Originally Posted by marinello59 View Post
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    I was wondering that. Copyright issues maybe? It's on twitter though so it must be true.
    Copyright issues, but to take the whole channel down rather than the offending video is ott imho

    Also only indy supporting channels affected.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Golden Fleece View Post
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    Will be interested to see the figures attending the all under one banner march today. Huge convoy headed up the A9 this morning.
    10s of thousands being reported in various sites.
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    Quote Originally Posted by johnbc70 View Post
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    Any examples of what you feel should have been reported but was not?
    One obvious one was the protest outside their offices re. Nick Robinson's news editing efforts.
    The Beeb use Nelson's eye whenever it suits them and the government.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Golden Fleece View Post
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    Copyright issues, but to take the whole channel down rather than the offending video is ott imho

    Also only indy supporting channels affected.
    https://wingsoverscotland.com/the-st...s-its-muscles/

    Make your own mind up. The other site has been run for years without interference from the BBC. Now shut down.

    In other news, political sites which contain BBC material from a Unionist perspective are still up and running.


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    So will the SNP listen to their grassroots supports and announce IndyRef2? Or will they ignore them?

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    Quote Originally Posted by Golden Fleece View Post
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    10s of thousands being reported in various sites.
    All talking to themselves instead of the people we need to win over.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Golden Fleece View Post
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    10s of thousands being reported in various sites.
    One of the top stories on the BBC news app.
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    Quote Originally Posted by ronaldo7 View Post
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    https://wingsoverscotland.com/the-st...s-its-muscles/

    Make your own mind up. The other site has been run for years without interference from the BBC. Now shut down.

    In other news, political sites which contain BBC material from a Unionist perspective are still up and running.
    It seems theyíre shutting down the sites that are critical of the BBC, but allowing other to stay up. Thatís nothing to do with copyright imo.

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    Quote Originally Posted by lord bunberry View Post
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    It seems they’re shutting down the sites that are critical of the BBC, but allowing other to stay up. That’s nothing to do with copyright imo.
    If that is what is happening then our politicians should be asking questions as to who decides which sites are complained about and why.
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