Handling & Stanton

**~~Stuarty27~~** · 23-04-2015 09:19 PM

I think Stanton has looked decent when coming off the bench, the problem is when he has started he hasn't took his chance, Falkirjk and Raith away are prime examples

***Fergus52*** · 24-04-2015 02:29 PM

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Apparently not or he'd be getting more game time.

A 21 year old in a squad which has large amount of central midfielders and 4 strikers? I'm not so sure.

the 4 year deal and everything Stubbs has ever said about him in interviews suggests otherwise.

***Bishop Hibee*** · 24-04-2015 03:22 PM

No room for them in the starting XI at the moment. It's a huge close season for both these players as if they fail to establish themselves in the first team they will be on there way.

***Brightside*** · 24-04-2015 03:54 PM

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Apparently not or he'd be getting more game time.

Stop it. The lad is a growing talent. Believe me he'll be in that team next season.

**B.H.F.C** · 24-04-2015 03:58 PM

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Stop it. The lad is a growing talent. Believe me he'll be in that team next season.

He can't have grown very much in the last 3 months having barely kicked a ball.

***Brightside*** · 24-04-2015 04:18 PM

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He can't have grown very much in the last 3 months having barely kicked a ball.

He's training with the full squad, he's playing in dev games. Stubbs see's him as one for next season. Its costing us buttons at the moment so i dont get the anti-mob tbh going on about a 4yr deal.

**B.H.F.C** · 24-04-2015 04:47 PM

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He's training with the full squad, he's playing in dev games. Stubbs see's him as one for next season. Its costing us buttons at the moment so i dont get the anti-mob tbh going on about a 4yr deal.

That's kind of my point. At his age how much is he going to be improving playing in development games and training? It's a hell of a jump from the development team to the first team.

***Brightside*** · 24-04-2015 05:21 PM

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That's kind of my point. At his age how much is he going to be improving playing in development games and training? It's a hell of a jump from the development team to the first team.

I dont think he's under performed when he's played in the first team. tbh he is unfortunate that we have a very strong midfield at the moment. Difficult to drop any of the normal 4. My view is that Danny will end up taking Robertsons place over the course of the next year or two. Succession planning.

***superfurryhibby*** · 24-04-2015 05:28 PM

What I've just realised is that we gave 7 central midfielders competing for a place. A bit odd really. Centre-mid out, wingers in.

***bingo70*** · 24-04-2015 05:49 PM

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A 21 year old in a squad which has large amount of central midfielders and 4 strikers? I'm not so sure.

the 4 year deal and everything Stubbs has ever said about him in interviews suggests otherwise.

21 is not that young for a footballer. If he was going to be any good he'd have made more of an impact by now.

***Eyrie*** · 24-04-2015 06:15 PM

If Handling and Stanton were that good, then they'd have been key players for the first team in this division and we wouldn't have needed to sign Fyvie. Instead we did and he walked straight into the team.

I've never been convinced about Handling and I'm concerned that Stanton isn't doing well enough when he gets a chance.

***Fergus52*** · 24-04-2015 06:40 PM

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21 is not that young for a footballer. If he was going to be any good he'd have made more of an impact by now.

well I'm gonna trust Stubbs on this.

I guess we'll see who's right in a couple of years.

I still think he'll be a big player for us, Drogba was struggling in the French second tier at the age of 23.

***bingo70*** · 24-04-2015 06:51 PM

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well I'm gonna trust Stubbs on this.

I guess we'll see who's right in a couple of years.

I still think he'll be a big player for us, Drogba was struggling in the French second tier at the age of 23.

I'm going to trust Stubbs as well and agree it's the right decision not to play him.

Stubbs was barely in the door when he got a 4 year deal, I'm not convinced it wasn't on the recommendation of someone else.

***Brightside*** · 24-04-2015 06:52 PM

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If Handling and Stanton were that good, then they'd have been key players for the first team in this division and we wouldn't have needed to sign Fyvie. Instead we did and he walked straight into the team.

I've never been convinced about Handling and I'm concerned that Stanton isn't doing well enough when he gets a chance.

Had he not went out and got Fyvie, Allan, Dylan....then yes ofcourse Handling would be playing. But those 3 players are good enough for most Prem teams tbh.

***Brightside*** · 24-04-2015 06:55 PM

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I'm going to trust Stubbs as well and agree it's the right decision not to play him.

Stubbs was barely in the door when he got a 4 year deal, I'm not convinced it wasn't on the recommendation of someone else.

Now you are really being silly. He hasnt decided not to play him...if he didnt like the player he wouldnt be in the squad!! Just for you I'll find out exactly what Subbs thinks about the player. But i can assure you he'd have at least been away on loan right now if he didnt want him in the squad.

***Fergus52*** · 24-04-2015 06:59 PM

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I'm going to trust Stubbs as well and agree it's the right decision not to play him.

Stubbs was barely in the door when he got a 4 year deal, I'm not convinced it wasn't on the recommendation of someone else.

I can't be bothered digging it up, but right after he signed it Stubbs gave an interview where he spoke about how impressed he was by him and how he had a big future etc...

Stubbs rates him highly.

***BoomtownHibees*** · 24-04-2015 07:56 PM

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Now you are really being silly. He hasnt decided not to play him...if he didnt like the player he wouldnt be in the squad!! Just for you I'll find out exactly what Subbs thinks about the player. But i can assure you he'd have at least been away on loan right now if he didnt want him in the squad.

What do you mean by "he hasn't decided not to play him?"

Clearly he has

***tamig*** · 24-04-2015 09:20 PM

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Likewise. I liked the look of Stanton towards the end of last season but he's offered nothing for a full season playing at a level we shouldn't be playing at. He should have been strolling this league and I'd suggest the fact he hasn't shows he's not going to be good enough, although I'm not sure how much that is to do with him physically. I seen him in the pool at the gym and he doesnt have any muscle at all. Compare that with people like Cummings and Forster of a similar age and you can see why he's fell behind.

I've thought for a long time that Sam should be spending a bit more time with the fitness gurus and try to put on a bit more muscle. He's a gifted player but is too easily brushed aside for my liking. A summer in the gym would do him no harm at all.

***Eyrie*** · 24-04-2015 09:45 PM

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Had he not went out and got Fyvie, Allan, Dylan....then yes ofcourse Handling would be playing. But those 3 players are good enough for most Prem teams tbh.

And if Handling or Stanton were as good as their defenders on here think then we wouldn't have needed Fyvie in January. Instead we'd have two talented kids gaining valuable first team experience whilst playing a key role in our promotion push.

I want to see more from them when they do get off the bench, and they're not even managing that at the moment.

**Unseen work** · 24-04-2015 11:40 PM

Imo next season I expect to see a bulkier looking Danny handling who will play a lot deeper in the midfield. He has impressed there for hibs and Scotland but atm would be a risk starting him there in the business end of the season. He will continue to learn the role and play there pre season I think

***J-C*** · 25-04-2015 12:15 AM

We have a premiership midfield and these two lads are still way behind in their development. McDonaugh for all his good coaching at ER made a few errors and one of them was not getting these very good youngsters up to speed and ready to play 1st team football. Hearts have been doing it for the past 2-3 years, with this season showing the benefit of getting U20 players bulked up and ready to move up to the big boys game, Handling and Stanton still look like young laddies, so lets hope after the close season they are ready to fight for their spot in next seasons team.

***Billy Whizz*** · 25-04-2015 06:05 PM

Both got on today, good to see that a stack of homegrown players played today,
Forster
Hanlon
Stevenson
Cummings
Handling
Stanton
Martin

**Crammond Hibee** · 25-04-2015 06:14 PM

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Both got on today, good to see that a stack of homegrown players played today,
Forster
Hanlon
Stevenson
Cummings
Handling
Stanton
Martin

Is Cummings a homegrown player ?

***Billy Whizz*** · 25-04-2015 06:19 PM

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Is Cummings a homegrown player ?

Why not, came through our development team

**Andy74** · 25-04-2015 06:20 PM

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Is Cummings a homegrown player ?

He played for our under 19s so yes.

***Winston Ingram*** · 25-04-2015 06:24 PM

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We have a premiership midfield and these two lads are still way behind in their development. McDonaugh for all his good coaching at ER made a few errors and one of them was not getting these very good youngsters up to speed and ready to play 1st team football. Hearts have been doing it for the past 2-3 years, with this season showing the benefit of getting U20 players bulked up and ready to move up to the big boys game, Handling and Stanton still look like young laddies, so lets hope after the close season they are ready to fight for their spot in next seasons team.

How would you suggest he got them 'up to speed'?

Hearts did it last year because they had no other choice and they were all gantin until the last few games. That 1st team experience and dropping down a level has helped them no end. Before that I'm struggling to see who else they've brought through in the last 2/3 yrs

***Winston Ingram*** · 25-04-2015 06:27 PM

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Imo next season I expect to see a bulkier looking Danny handling who will play a lot deeper in the midfield. He has impressed there for hibs and Scotland but atm would be a risk starting him there in the business end of the season. He will continue to learn the role and play there pre season I think

I see him as a deeper lying midfielder. He struggles to get on the ball higher up the pitch, though saying that he was very involved when he came on today.

***bingo70*** · 25-04-2015 06:29 PM

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I see him as a deeper lying midfielder. He struggles to get on the ball higher up the pitch, though saying that he was very involved when he came on today.

I thought he did alright when he came on today Tbf. Nothing special but as you say, got involved and that's not something you can always say about him.