The end for Craig?

[HappyHibby93]

would say that he hasn't had enough impressive displays to win over the fans, I would try and motivate him by telling him to earn his next contract in the next
few months.
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[Mathias Jack]

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I am sure that is exactly the case, he appears to be a very good professional which is what we need as we do have a pretty young squad. Not altogether sure the captaincy sits as comfortably as it might and think it may have been better if someone else was given it however I think he has responded pretty well given where we were in May.

I believe there's a good player in there somewhere, he doesn't become a bad player overnight. That said, most players would've struggled in our side last year. So I would've thought LC should be thriving under Stubbsy this season...but he hasn't. Repeating what others have said, his future hinges on the future of Allan, McGeouch etc etc.

Was thinking of a future captain though. Gray for me, Fontaine to fill in when DG isn't available.

[Dashing Bob S]

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too far gone now.

I think short of pulling a load of kids out of a burning orphanage (in Leith) there is little that Craig can do to redeem himself in the eyes of a big element the Hibs support. He had the grave misfortune to be made captain by the inept Butcher, and, I think, takes a lot of fan anger on Butcher's behalf. He's a bit like the Butcher surrogate who is still around for us to freely abuse. It's a shame, as I think he's a very decent player, but his interests are now probably best served elsewhere.

[Big L]

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Due to flu I wasn't there yesterday but this was a game Craig should've strolled and taken control of but by all accounts he was fairly poor once again.

He was poor, believe me ! We improved dramatically when Dylan came on and I for one think his time is up. He has never hit the heights with us that he did at St Jon's.

[wills]

AS must see something in him to have him as captain and selected to start most games this season.

I trust AS to get it right

[ancient hibee]

I was impressed at the League Cup game when Kennedy missed his penalty and Craig immediately went and consoled him but somehow he just doesn't fit into the way we are trying to play now.I think it's the hangover from last season.His first thought always seems to be to play the ball sideways or back.

[madhatter]

Whilst it might temporarily damage his confidence, I think removing him from his captain duties may well help. He spends too much time looking around him and trying not to mess up that sadly he does (e.g. under-hit 3 crosses in the first half which looked like he was trying not to over-hit them rather than anything else). This also shows in his passing and shooting - at the moment there doesn't seem to be conviction to smack the ball, instead it is soft touches.

I respect him for the amount of abuse he has taken and will still take. Can't be easy for the guy, he is always first to be targeted.

I think Hanlon has been superb this season but in that game...he was quite bad but yet the criticism for him from the stands wasn't as bad as that delivered to Craig (e.g. second half, he lets the ball run by him with opposition player right through on goal - Fontaine had to cover).

We need to remember, before Craig joined us, he was younger and faster, a player who had confidence and played with freedom. Over the years, through defensive, negative tactics, he has lost pace, grown older and lost confidence. This is probably the first year at Hibs where he is playing in a decent footballing team.

[J-C]

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Whilst it might temporarily damage his confidence, I think removing him from his captain duties may well help. He spends too much time looking around him and trying not to mess up that sadly he does (e.g. under-hit 3 crosses in the first half which looked like he was trying not to over-hit them rather than anything else). This also shows in his passing and shooting - at the moment there doesn't seem to be conviction to smack the ball, instead it is soft touches.

I respect him for the amount of abuse he has taken and will still take. Can't be easy for the guy, he is always first to be targeted.

I think Hanlon has been superb this season but in that game...he was quite bad but yet the criticism for him from the stands wasn't as bad as that delivered to Craig (e.g. second half, he lets the ball run by him with opposition player right through on goal - Fontaine had to cover).

We need to remember, before Craig joined us, he was younger and faster, a player who had confidence and played with freedom. Over the years, through defensive, negative tactics, he has lost pace, grown older and lost confidence. This is probably the first year at Hibs where he is playing in a decent footballing team.

He only joined us in the summer of 2013, how much bloody pace and and confidence has he lost in 20 months and isn't that much older, please don't try and use these for excuses when they don't exist.

[hibs0666]

It will be interesting to see who gets targeted by the boo radges if Craig gets dropped. Oxley probably, Hanlon maybe?

[SanFranHibs]

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I think Craig has been written off by too many fans to be able to make it at hibs now.

Until he walks ascends the stairs and lifts the Scottish Cup in May

[madhatter]

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He only joined us in the summer of 2013, how much bloody pace and and confidence has he lost in 20 months and isn't that much older, please don't try and use these for excuses when they don't exist.

Excuse me? Are you trying to tell me that it is impossible to lose pace and confidence in 20 months? That is insane talk as is clearly proven through the situation with Harris. Looks slower, looks less confident and looks a lesser player...all in about 6months. Just to add a bit of humour, someone could become Zeefuik or Nade size in 20 months easy - would they still be as pacey and exude confidence? I think my comment was well-rounded and simply stated that he has had serious amounts of pelters when in actual fact he has only played in a half-decent team for 6 months. Not saying he is a good player, just saying I've seen other players in the team have garbage games and Craig still gets the abuse.

Last season, Craig was almost playing CB, if you are trying to tell me that he has not changed as a player since he joined Hibs (negative play from past season(s)), what are you trying to suggest?

Sad day when I hear the club captain of Hibs getting cheered off the park by his own fans. No matter how bad he is. I could understand if he wasn't trying but it is clear he is trying. No doubting he has not been good enough though.

[J-C]

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Excuse me? Are you trying to tell me that it is impossible to lose pace and confidence in 20 months? That is insane talk as is clearly proven through the situation with Harris. Looks slower, looks less confident and looks a lesser player...all in about 6months. Just to add a bit of humour, someone could become Zeefuik or Nade size in 20 months easy - would they still be as pacey and exude confidence? I think my comment was well-rounded and simply stated that he has had serious amounts of pelters when in actual fact he has only played in a half-decent team for 6 months. Not saying he is a good player, just saying I've seen other players in the team have garbage games and Craig still gets the abuse.

Last season, Craig was almost playing CB, if you are trying to tell me that he has not changed as a player since he joined Hibs (negative play from past season(s)), what are you trying to suggest?

Sad day when I hear the club captain of Hibs getting cheered off the park by his own fans. No matter how bad he is. I could understand if he wasn't trying but it is clear he is trying. No doubting he has not been good enough though.

Using Harris is a completely different situation as he had a serious ankle injury which he is yet to recover mentally from.

Craig hasn't lost any real pace as he wasn't the speediest to start with, he came as an attacking midfielder and when used by Fenlon in his 1st 6 months here, he was our top scorer and playing fairly well, enter the mind of Butcher who went about detroying the confidence of the whole team. Craig started playing deeper under Butcher, as a DM which doesn't suit his natural play and unfortunately he's still playing like his hands are tied and he's unwilling to open his game up to the attacking midfielder we all thought we were getting. He shows the odd glimpses but not enough and with the younger crop of attacking mids at the club, the end of the road looks closer for him come the summer.

I wanted it to work for him and this seaason playing in the Championship he had a great chance to turn around the support but he just hasn't managed to do it.

[Borderhibbie76]

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Until he walks ascends the stairs and lifts the Scottish Cup in May

Never been his greatest fan tho he isnt as bad as many make out. .but if he lifts THAT cup he will quickly win everyone over that's for sure.

[Brightside]

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Excuse me? Are you trying to tell me that it is impossible to lose pace and confidence in 20 months? That is insane talk as is clearly proven through the situation with Harris. Looks slower, looks less confident and looks a lesser player...all in about 6months. Just to add a bit of humour, someone could become Zeefuik or Nade size in 20 months easy - would they still be as pacey and exude confidence? I think my comment was well-rounded and simply stated that he has had serious amounts of pelters when in actual fact he has only played in a half-decent team for 6 months. Not saying he is a good player, just saying I've seen other players in the team have garbage games and Craig still gets the abuse.

Last season, Craig was almost playing CB, if you are trying to tell me that he has not changed as a player since he joined Hibs (negative play from past season(s)), what are you trying to suggest?

Sad day when I hear the club captain of Hibs getting cheered off the park by his own fans. No matter how bad he is. I could understand if he wasn't trying but it is clear he is trying. No doubting he has not been good enough though.

Butcher totally changed his style of play. I still think Craig can be an important player for Hibs but he needs the same support from the fans that he is currently getting from Stubbs. Robertson was another player who was damaged by Butcher as was most of our defence. We have ball players in our CHs and its only under Stubbs that we are seeing that. The way we keep the ball now and play it from back to front is a totally differnent way to play compared to what Butcher forced on them. Anyone thinking we should get rid of Craig is wrong. He's still got loads to give.

[majorhibs]

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It will be interesting to see who gets targeted by the boo radges if Craig gets dropped. Oxley probably, Hanlon maybe?

The "boo radges" ? Tell you what, nowadays, there is an element, not attractive, who seem to only want to slate what is going on around them! The "boo radges" used to go mental when we had bad results in the early 70s at my first attendances, scaring the s#%#t out of me & my young schoolage mates, but aw this nowadays "boo boys terrible" etc talk nowadays, is just slaver. There was big style boo boys before when Hibs played. Check out Bertie Aulds last few games as an EG.

[we are hibs]

a captain who gives up on a ball in the first that he could've kept in. sums him up.