Are you still trying to argue that Fenlon did a worse job for us than Butcher? Unbelievable nonsense.This quote is hidden because you are ignoring this member. Show Quote
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12-01-2015 10:35 PM #31
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12-01-2015 10:38 PM #32This quote is hidden because you are ignoring this member. Show Quote
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12-01-2015 10:46 PM #33
Guys Fenlon's football had fans walking away. Butchers football had fans running away.
Stubbs football has us talking again that we do actually look a football team.
Conclusion is... Fenlon was ***** and had to go said it himself. Sorry but saying "at least he wouldn't get us relegated" doesn't matter a jot. We shouldn't lower expectations to just surviving. Butcher was worse and should have been punted soon as the final whistle went against Hamilton.
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12-01-2015 10:54 PM #34
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its a bit like choosing between a punch in the mouth or a kick in the baws.
as in 1-5 not being Fenlons fault, have you not read what happened in the lead up to the final? Can you not remember the team he put out that day? The tactics ? Changing the team after 35 mins ? Taking off the only player in the team who could actually pass a ball to another team mate?
just thinking of some of the signings he made is mind boggling. We were the laughing stock of Scottish fitba when he was in charge, everyone knew he was clueless, Most Hibs fans refused to believe it, and still do. It's bizarre.
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12-01-2015 10:56 PM #35This quote is hidden because you are ignoring this member. Show Quote
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12-01-2015 10:59 PM #36
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So, two Scottish Cup finals in a row and average 4th to 5th. Aye, real laughing stock compared to battling to be in the top 4 of The Championship.
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12-01-2015 11:07 PM #37This quote is hidden because you are ignoring this member. Show Quote
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12-01-2015 11:17 PM #38This quote is hidden because you are ignoring this member. Show Quote
Who in Scottish football was laughing at us? Hearts, pumped them all season in his only year. Celtic? Beat them at Easter Road. Aberdeen? we knocked them out the cup twice, same with Killie. I really don't see where you got this absolutely rubbish from, it is completely made up.
Everyone knew he was clueless is again absolute made up pish. Some of his signings were poor yes, some were actually pretty good. Griffiths, Doyle, Thomson, Taiwo, Maybury, Williams, Robertson and Craig were/are solid players. Fenlon was far better than Calderwood and Butcher and as I said we wouldn't be near the first division had we let his contract expire. The abuse the guy gets for doing a solid job and giving it his best is absolutely pathetic. Calderwood and Butcher are the real villians.
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12-01-2015 11:21 PM #39This quote is hidden because you are ignoring this member. Show Quote
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13-01-2015 09:57 AM #40This quote is hidden because you are ignoring this member. Show Quote
I'm all for a 'if we had stuck with Pat Fenlon we'd not have been relegated' debate, I think it's hard to say whether we would or wouldn't, I'm glad he left though. But, to say Fenlon isn't culpable for what happened in that game, that's not even a debate as far as I'm concerned.
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13-01-2015 08:51 PM #42This quote is hidden because you are ignoring this member. Show Quote
"I did not need any persuasion to play for such a great club, the Hibs result is still one of the first I look for"
Sir Matt Busby
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13-01-2015 08:56 PM #43This quote is hidden because you are ignoring this member. Show Quote
Nae fenlon fan but he was not disappointed when he lost the benefit of all that knowledge.Last edited by Bostonhibby; 14-01-2015 at 08:41 AM.
"I did not need any persuasion to play for such a great club, the Hibs result is still one of the first I look for"
Sir Matt Busby
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14-01-2015 04:12 AM #44This quote is hidden because you are ignoring this member. Show Quote
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Also, it really isn't debatable that we wouldn't have gone down, say what you like about Fenlon but we got wins when we needed them under him in his first season and we undoubtedly had a better team when he left. What were we, 5th? Hardly relegation form despite our lack of goals. We absolutely should have let Fenlon finish his contract and then made the changes we made this summer, it would have saved us relegation not to mention a massive amount of money.
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15-01-2015 12:26 AM #45This quote is hidden because you are ignoring this member. Show Quote
He said that Fenlon made Brown his number two which is technically correct. Brown came to the club during Calderwood's time in charge and was the caretaker manager after Calderwood left and when Fenlon arrived, he chose to keep Brown at the club and hired him as the assistant manager.
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15-01-2015 12:49 AM #47This quote is hidden because you are ignoring this member. Show Quote
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15-01-2015 12:53 AM #48This quote is hidden because you are ignoring this member. Show Quote
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15-01-2015 03:58 AM #49This quote is hidden because you are ignoring this member. Show Quote
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15-01-2015 06:38 AM #50This quote is hidden because you are ignoring this member. Show Quote
Stubbs has been here 5 mins and its night and day between him and Pat! Remember the attendances under Pat yeah? His brand of football was one of the worst I've seen at ER.
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15-01-2015 07:40 AM #51This quote is hidden because you are ignoring this member. Show Quote
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15-01-2015 07:45 AM #52This quote is hidden because you are ignoring this member. Show Quote
Fenlon wasn't the greatest, granted and I do think the job was too big for him. His fault? Perhaps however we should look at the board for making this appointment.
As for Butcher, well he make a **** of it and now no-one will touch him with a bargepole.
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15-01-2015 07:46 AM #53This quote is hidden because you are ignoring this member. Show Quote
He was a dead man walking after the first cup final however. A victory over Celtic would have been the only thing that would have saved his skin but it didn't happen unfortunately.
A victim of circumstance.
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15-01-2015 07:58 AM #54This quote is hidden because you are ignoring this member. Show Quote
He was probably expecting the season to tail off but not to the extent that it did. We would have regrouped as a unit like ICT and built for the future. If our penalties had gone in then who's to say we wouldn't have a team like ICT have now?
Butcher must surely learn from this and I bear him no ill will. He was prised from a stable job where he was doing well and we were just the wrong fit.
And all these people having a go...you wouldn't say it to his face so what's the point?
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15-01-2015 08:16 AM #55This quote is hidden because you are ignoring this member. Show Quote
That being said he wasn't the long term solution and him going in the summer and us bringing in Stubbs, Dempster and co would still have been the right course of action, they would just have a lot more money and supporters to work with.
But hey, we played some boring football and lost 2 cup finals, raise your pitchforks.
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15-01-2015 08:21 AM #56This quote is hidden because you are ignoring this member. Show Quote
Sadly the manager who replaced him was much worse! If only we had got in the right man after CC we wouldn't be in this league. I'm delighted to have a real manager and coaching staff who work on every aspect of the club.
Again, I can hold my hands up and say I was wrong about Butcher why can't the Fenlon apologists do the same?
Onwards and upwards and thankfully both have nothing to do with Hibs now.
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15-01-2015 08:25 AM #57This quote is hidden because you are ignoring this member. Show Quote
Should have been sacked immediately after the 0-7.
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15-01-2015 08:30 AM #58This quote is hidden because you are ignoring this member. Show Quote
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15-01-2015 08:35 AM #59This quote is hidden because you are ignoring this member. Show Quote
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