No New Money For Players In January

[BSEJVT]

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The atmosphere at ER was brilliant on Saturday. There will be no poisonous atmosphere towards the team if Hibs have a decent team on the pitch, winning games regularly.

They won't win every week. No team does that, and nobody should seriously expect that. But at least hopefully now, going forward, the supporters won't ever have to suffer the total garbage and disgraceful performances they had to endure under Butcher & Malpas. Is it any wonder supporters were unhappy, to put it mildly?

Maybe it's time you considered renewing your season ticket and got back to supporting the team? You never know, you might start enjoying going to ER again.

It certainly is, but the atmosphere at ER had been poisonous long before those 2 ********s showed up.

I would put it as far back as Yogi's tenure.

At the time I put it down to too many folk who knew nothing of football jumping on the bandwagon and getting wound up by the lack of continued "success"

As a disease however its is infectious and I confess to even having caught a version of it and becoming Mr Angry at the team.

I removed myself from the problem as I was getting zero enjoyment out of it and was embarrassed on occasion by my behaviour, although no-one else ever said anything

Maybe somehow or other this new regime both on and off field will break the cycle of negativity and Hibs Net simply has more than its fair share of grumpy *******s and they are distorting the reality.

[Cropley10]

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This is what I'm getting at.... From your post you even know he's the non exec chairman, but you still posted what you did?

Perhaps you could enlighten me then Alf as to what the role of the non-exec chairman is then?

I'm really interested in your reply.

[silverhibee]

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We are allowed to discuss lots of things, some good some bad some indifferent.

But its the bad that permeates.

My remaining comments don't relate specifically to this thread or indeed to you SH.

But it seems to me that there are a ton of folk on here whose primary mission is to find a stick to beat the club with and then continue to do so.

Some of these people never have a good word to say about the club, never comment on the good things happening and are never to be seen when results are good.

However at the first sign of trouble or anything contentious its like an outbreak of winter vomiting bug as they pile on here full of ****, piss and wind and like the winter vomiting bug regurgitate the same old mixture of part truths, lies, exaggeration and sometimes honestly held if too often repeated complaints of times passed.

If you knew someone like that in the pub your first thought would be I am going to steer clear of that boring *******.

Hibs have lost thousands of regular supporters, of whom I am one, some of whom probably forever, but this repeated self flagellation stirred up by people on both sides of the divide is adding to the problem massively.

I guarantee you there are other people like me who come on to forums like this to see what's happening, read a few match reports, hear about things happening behind the scenes and start to think. maybe I should think about going back.

They then read some of the other stuff and think maybe not.

Laterally before I gave up my season ticket ER was a horrible place with lots of infighting amongst the support and the atmosphere was poisonous towards the team, if this site is a barometer, then it probably still is.

No-one is saying that everything is perfect or you have to like every single thing / person at the club, but any club is the sum of all its parts.

I have no doubt that may of these folk bleating on about the past are better Hibby's than me, but they really need to ask themselves, I am helping the team / the club?

If the answer is no then maybe they should do as I did and remove themselves until they find a place where they can think they are and re-engage positively.

I gave up my ST after getting relegated, but i can't stop going to watch the team, have only missed a few games home and away so far this season, the folk that no me on here no i go along to give my support to the team every week, i don't have a go at players or managers at the game when things are going wrong, at the end of last season i travelled up to Dingwall to support the team with a friend who used to post on here and we got beat, did i have a go at them after the FT whistle or boo them of the pitch, the answer is no, got in the car had a moan coming back down the road and more than likely came on here and gave the players/manager a hard time, this is where fans let a bit steam off, on a Message Board after a game, and let me say this, the players deserved every bit of stick they got on here for the performance they put in that night and the way they slumped to the ground at FT, football isn't cheap and that trip alone cost me £100+, i think after spending that money on one game i can have a go at the team on here and tell it how i seen it that night.

Hope you come back to watch the Hibs soon. It's getting a bit better.

[silverhibee]

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The atmosphere at ER was brilliant on Saturday. There will be no poisonous atmosphere towards the team if Hibs have a decent team on the pitch, winning games regularly.

They won't win every week. No team does that, and nobody should seriously expect that. But at least hopefully now, going forward, the supporters won't ever have to suffer the total garbage and disgraceful performances they had to endure under Butcher & Malpas. Is it any wonder supporters were unhappy, to put it mildly?

Maybe it's time you considered renewing your season ticket and got back to supporting the team? You never know, you might start enjoying going to ER again.

I would say the atmosphere overall has been pretty good this season, and as you say Saturday was top notch, and I'm sure it will be the same against them, we are getting there and a win this weekend would show that.

[Cropley10]

Really not sure what all this talk about the negativity is coming from or aimed at.

I buy three STs and attend most home games, there's, relatively, hardly anyone in the stadium these days, very little atmosphere - Rangers & Hearts excluded - kind of what you might expect for the second tier.

Folk should try and remember Easter Road is not the same as Hibs.net.

Thousands of folk have found something else to do at 3pm whereas this place is always open...

[silverhibee]

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This thread is just another example of why it would be best for all concerned if Rod stood down at the AGM.

We can't change the past but for as long as RP hangs around there will be a shadow over the club that some won't see past. Expecting supporters to simply 'look forward' and forget the last few years is never going to happen and I'm sure LD is more than aware of that, as frustrating as it may be for her.

I've always given RP credit for the good work he did but the mismanagement of the club over the last few years has been criminal, the reason the changes that have taken place look so good is because they have been drastic, they had to be, as the way we were being run on all fronts was shambolic.

If RP stands down at the AGM I don't believe we would see massive changes in the way the club is now being run as I fully believe LD has full control but it would be a final piece in the puzzle of getting people to move on and embrace the future.

As usual PB, well said.

[Iain G]

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Pretty sure we can do both, maybe it is easier for Leeann Dempster to say these things as she hasn't had to sit through and watch the pish that has been served up to us over the last few years, you just don't forget about being gubbed in two finals in a row and hanging about in the bottom six since Yogi was last in charge to get us a top six finish, and after flirting about in the bottom six since then, then BOOM, we get relegated, we just can't forget about all these things and all under the stewardship of Petrie.

Now for the forward looking, we are starting to look like a football team again with a bit of swagger, Stubbs and his coaching staff get all the credit for that and hope it continues on the pitch and with a few new faces in January we can hope to push for 2nd place and get 3 points of the yams this weekend, do that and we will go in to the 2nd half of the season with confidence on the high.

We can still move on together as supporters, but have we just to wipe out Hibs history and start a fresh in the summer time and not mention the bad or good times because it is in the past.

"Looking forward" to the Derby and going to games for the rest of the season.

Petrie is a reminder of the past, pretty sure when he has gone everything will look even more rosey at Hibernian FC.

Happy New Year.

As are Lewis Stevenson, Liam Craig, Scott Robertson, Paul Hanlon etc, you want them all gone to make it rosier too?!

[silverhibee]

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As are Lewis Stevenson, Liam Craig, Scott Robertson, Paul Hanlon etc, you want them all gone to make it rosier too?!

Nope.

Two maybe even three i would be happy to see stay.

But if the manager can bring in four better players than the ones you mention above then i will live with that and back Stubbs in what he is doing to make it look a lot more rosier.

[heidtheba]

Whether there is, or isn't money, surely the smart thing to do is downplay available funds? Any selling manager/board or agent would no doubt have increased the price had Petrie said 'Hey EEN, we've got stacks of cash!'.

Don't see a problem with what Hibs say before a transfer window. It's what they pull out of the bag during it that counts.

[Flanny boy]

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Whether there is, or isn't money, surely the smart thing to do is downplay available funds? Any selling manager/board or agent would no doubt have increased the price had Petrie said 'Hey EEN, we've got stacks of cash!'.

Don't see a problem with what Hibs say before a transfer window. It's what they pull out of the bag during it that counts.

[CropleyWasGod]

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Perhaps you could enlighten me then Alf as to what the role of the non-exec chairman is then?

I'm really interested in your reply.

As LD has said, the Board have been working on this for all of 2014, and possibly even part of 2013. That takes up the period when RP was exec chair, and non-exec chair. Clearly, he has been part of the process, and it would have been daft to stop as soon as his status changed.

In that light, of course he should be part of the public launch. There will be a few issues that hang over from his executive term, most of which will probably have been dealt with. This is obviously one that hasn't been.

The AGM has to make the decision as to whether the share issue goes ahead. He will be chair of that meeting.

As an aside, I'm non-exec chair of a company. I get asked to do media work when it's appropriate. In that sense, no different to RP.

[emerald green]

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It certainly is, but the atmosphere at ER had been poisonous long before those 2 ********s showed up.

I would put it as far back as Yogi's tenure.

At the time I put it down to too many folk who knew nothing of football jumping on the bandwagon and getting wound up by the lack of continued "success"

As a disease however its is infectious and I confess to even having caught a version of it and becoming Mr Angry at the team.

I removed myself from the problem as I was getting zero enjoyment out of it and was embarrassed on occasion by my behaviour, although no-one else ever said anything

Maybe somehow or other this new regime both on and off field will break the cycle of negativity and Hibs Net simply has more than its fair share of grumpy *******s and they are distorting the reality.

Lets hope so. Great strides have been made at ER in a relatively short period of time. Credit has to be given to LD & AS and their teams, as well as to the players.

I'm not daft enough to think everything in the garden is rosy. There's still a lot of hard work to be done to get this club back where it belongs, in the top division of Scottish football, at the upper end of that division.

Hibs.net as you know is a football fans forum and you get all sorts of opinions. To me, it boils down to basically one thing. If Hibs are winning - no "negativity" (or very little anyway!). If Hibs are losing (and getting relegated!) lots of "negativity".

It's people like yourself the club needs back supporting the team at ER.

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I would say the atmosphere overall has been pretty good this season, and as you say Saturday was top notch, and I'm sure it will be the same against them, we are getting there and a win this weekend would show that.

Here's hoping for a win on Saturday. It would be fantastic.

All the best to you and BSEJVT for 2015.

[silverhibee]

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Lets hope so. Great strides have been made at ER in a relatively short period of time. Credit has to be given to LD & AS and their teams, as well as to the players.

I'm not daft enough to think everything in the garden is rosy. There's still a lot of hard work to be done to get this club back where it belongs, in the top division of Scottish football, at the upper end of that division.

Hibs.net as you know is a football fans forum and you get all sorts of opinions. To me, it boils down to basically one thing. If Hibs are winning - no "negativity" (or very little anyway!). If Hibs are losing (and getting relegated!) lots of "negativity".

It's people like yourself the club needs back supporting the team at ER.



Here's hoping for a win on Saturday. It would be fantastic.

All the best to you and BSEJVT for 2015.

Cheers. Happy Hibby New Year to you.

[Just Alf]

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Perhaps you could enlighten me then Alf as to what the role of the non-exec chairman is then?

I'm really interested in your reply.

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As LD has said, the Board have been working on this for all of 2014, and possibly even part of 2013. That takes up the period when RP was exec chair, and non-exec chair. Clearly, he has been part of the process, and it would have been daft to stop as soon as his status changed.

In that light, of course he should be part of the public launch. There will be a few issues that hang over from his executive term, most of which will probably have been dealt with. This is obviously one that hasn't been.

The AGM has to make the decision as to whether the share issue goes ahead. He will be chair of that meeting.

As an aside, I'm non-exec chair of a company. I get asked to do media work when it's appropriate. In that sense, no different to RP.

Sorry Crops10, was off to pub.... Thanks to CWG for replying, that pretty much covers it.


Just to be clear on this whole thing, all I'm trying to say that this thread is based on a side interview at the launch of the fan ownership initiative not a separate meeting or anything so I thought it made sense for RP to be there.

The sooner he's gone though, the sooner we can all forget about threads like this

Happy New Year guys

[Nutmegged]

Am I the only one who doesn't see this as a bad thing?

We've had a high turnover of players in recent years and despite struggling for true consistency we are vastly improving, I think the key is a settled squad, we've got a team capable of beating every team in the league and now its time to keep it together, we've still got Farid to come back into the reckoning along with McGeouch - don't get me wrong, if something "special" came up then I'd be all for it but if it wasn't something that would be almost a given of improving us from the offset the I think sticking with what we have is actually a good thing.

[eastcoasthibby]

In reading through this thread for Me the baseline remains that there is no trust, respect or credibility sitting with Rod Petrie and the minute he appears in whatever guise speaking about Hibs it creates unrest and a hostile atmosphere which is unhealthy and counter productive to where we are moving. So for me common sense says "stay in the background, as is supposed to be the way of it Perrie" the majority of fans don't want him, but realise we need to put up with him just now anyway !!
The progression is not Petrie's work but by flunk he can quickly hit the feel good factor !!!