over rated musicians

[Steve-O]

Ed Sheeran is utter guff. How he is selling out Wembley etc is a total mystery to me.

People say Coldplay are boring?! They are like going to see KISS during a fireworks display compared to Sheeran.

[Haymaker]

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Ed Sheeran is utter guff. How he is selling out Wembley etc is a total mystery to me.

People say Coldplay are boring?! They are like going to see KISS during a fireworks display compared to Sheeran.

[HUTCHYHIBBY]

Lady Gaga! wtf?

[Future17]

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Ed Sheeran is utter guff. How he is selling out Wembley etc is a total mystery to me.

People say Coldplay are boring?! They are like going to see KISS during a fireworks display compared to Sheeran.

Can't agree with that. Very talented singer, songwriter and musician with a varied range of songs already in a relatively short period of time (in which he's been well-known).

[SneakersO'Toole]

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I'd put the XX in the category as well. I really, really don't get it.

Genuinely their first album is outstanding.

[The Baldmans Comb]

Phil Collins unbelievably was one of the biggest "stars" of the 1980's and the Smiths and the heid poser fronting them always made me giggle rather than listen.

[CropleyWasGod]

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Phil Collins unbelievably was one of the biggest "stars" of the 1980's and the Smiths and the heid poser fronting them always made me giggle rather than listen.

Despite the guff music, Collins remains one of the finest drummers I've ever seen.

[Geo_1875]

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Despite the guff music, Collins remains one of the finest drummers I've ever seen.

It's easy for the drummer to look good when he fronts thr band, produces all the songs and directs the show. His solos are efficient but technically average. He does put on a good show though.

[CropleyWasGod]

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It's easy for the drummer to look good when he fronts thr band, produces all the songs and directs the show. His solos are efficient but technically average. He does put on a good show though.

I've never seen his solo show. I'm talking about his time with Genesis, when he was up there with the likes of Moon and Palmer.

[PeeJay]

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It's easy for the drummer to look good when he fronts thr band, produces all the songs and directs the show. His solos are efficient but technically average. He does put on a good show though.

"Average"? Phil Collins is technically more than a very fine drummer - his work as a solo artist or in the more "poppy/successful" Genesis may well not be as technically proficient as when compared to his work with the prog rock era Genesis and Brand X, but he is a long way from being an "average" drummer - and "looking good" in his solo career is (IMO) because he is so good not just because he fronts the band - doing everything you list requires talent, not luck. Having played in a band myself I generally "hate" drummers, but grudgingly admire the good ones, one of which Collins certainly is/was (believe he's retired now due to hearing problems?).

[Stranraer]

Thanks everyone for the Coldplay links, they have been replaced by MUSE.

[Stranraer]

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Phil Collins unbelievably was one of the biggest "stars" of the 1980's and the Smiths and the heid poser fronting them always made me giggle rather than listen.

I think Morrissey and the Smiths produced some of the greatest songs ever written. Currently listening to this:

[Northernhibee]

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Thanks everyone for the Coldplay links, they have been replaced by MUSE.

Muse are **** for ****s who get too much Dungeons and Dragons and not enough action. Genuinely dreadful.

[Pretty Boy]

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Muse are **** for ****s who get too much Dungeons and Dragons and not enough action. Genuinely dreadful.

Proud to say I mentioned Muse very early doors in this thread.

[Jones28]

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Muse are **** for ****s who get too much Dungeons and Dragons and not enough action. Genuinely dreadful.

They are ****ing awful

[Steve-O]

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Can't agree with that. Very talented singer, songwriter and musician with a varied range of songs already in a relatively short period of time (in which he's been well-known).

Sorry, most of that first album sounds the same to me. And not in a good way.

Second is a bit more upbeat I suppose, but just not for me.

[snooky]

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Despite the guff music, Collins remains one of the finest drummers I've ever seen.

Aye, and he had that big hit about the homeless ("Another Day In Paradise") whilst evicting residents from his newly purchased estate.
Oh how we laughed

[Stranraer]

What are people's thoughts on RadioHead. My local music store had Amnesiac on offer so I bought it.

Kept hearing Radio 1 banging on about them, then heard creep but this album is nothing to rave about.

So glad MUSE are on many people's lists.

[Pretty Boy]

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What are people's thoughts on RadioHead. My local music store had Amnesiac on offer so I bought it.

Kept hearing Radio 1 banging on about them, then heard creep but this album is nothing to rave about.

So glad MUSE are on many people's lists.

Best British band of the last 30 years.

Get a hold of a copy of The Bends, stunning album. Amnesiac and Kid A are probably not the best introduction to Radiohead tbh.

[Mr White]

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Best British band of the last 30 years.

Get a hold of a copy of The Bends, stunning album. Amnesiac and Kid A are probably not the best introduction to Radiohead tbh.

I'm not a massive radiohead fan but I've always liked hail to the thief. A very under-rated album, There There is a fantastic track.

There's a reason The Bends and OK Computer always rank near the top of best album of all time polls: They're both works of genius.

[Stranraer]

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Best British band of the last 30 years.

Get a hold of a copy of The Bends, stunning album. Amnesiac and Kid A are probably not the best introduction to Radiohead tbh.

thank you, I'll get Ronnie to order that in tomorrow. Appreciate it.

[portyhibernian]

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Dre is an incredible Hip Hop producer. He has produced some of the biggest tunes in the genre all the way back from the early NWA days.

Absolutely love NWA, and still relevant today as evidenced by the Michael Brown situation.

[Stranraer]

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Absolutely love NWA, and still relevant today as evidenced by the Michael Brown situation.

Eazy E was brilliant, even when he disses Dre and Snoop in "Real Muthaf**** G's"

[Northernhibee]

Frightened Rabbit too. There's about fifty other bands in Scotland who do the same thing but better.

[Hiber-nation]

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Frightened Rabbit too. There's about fifty other bands in Scotland who do the same thing but better.

Yeah they are really dull. Not as dull as Turin Brakes but no-one ever really rated them in the first place.

[Northernhibee]

Frank Turner too. Fairly average songs, gets bundled in with Billy Bragg but if you look more deeply into his politics it's all a bit questionable. This generations Phil Collins.

[matty_f]

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Best British band of the last 30 years.

Get a hold of a copy of The Bends, stunning album. Amnesiac and Kid A are probably not the best introduction to Radiohead tbh.

Amnesia and Kid A are growers. I didn't take to them at first but love them now. Radiohead are awesome.

[Haymaker]

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Frank Turner too. Fairly average songs, gets bundled in with Billy Bragg but if you look more deeply into his politics it's all a bit questionable. This generations Phil Collins.

Frank Turner has some absolute belters in his collection yet far more dross thank quality. He and I have a lot of mutual friends from before he got "famous" and a lot of his early songs hit the right notes for me as they were basically about the same situations.

His politics are very suspect however, never quite worked out what they were/are.

[Mr White]

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Frank Turner has some absolute belters in his collection yet far more dross thank quality. He and I have a lot of mutual friends from before he got "famous" and a lot of his early songs hit the right notes for me as they were basically about the same situations.

His politics are very suspect however, never quite worked out what they were/are.

In what way? I don't know anything about him but I've really enjoyed his last 3 albums, particularly England Keep My Bones.

Edit- just found this article from 2013 which explains a bit about it
http://www.theguardian.com/music/2013/apr/24/frank-turner-death-threats

[Haymaker]

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In what way? I don't know anything about him but I've really enjoyed his last 3 albums, particularly England Keep My Bones.

Edit- just found this article from 2013 which explains a bit about it
http://www.theguardian.com/music/201...-death-threats

Seems to be painted by some as a new Billy Bragg/socialist because he wrote a song called "Thatcher ****ed the kids" and lived on people sofas for a while on tour etc. A lot of people who paint him as such are always very shocked to find out he attended Eton College and has some conservative views.

Guess it shows that the "kids" these days are quick to tag someone left wing because of one song!

I liked his new album, especially "four simple words" which sums up my view on the whole London "punk" scene nowadays.