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04-11-2014 10:51 AM #92
If this money contributed to the innocent civilians of Iraq, Afghanistan and the tens of thousands of others that lost limbs etc to the hands of the British Army over the last 100 years I would consider a donation.
If I lost a body part at work, and was medically retired I doubt I would get thousands of pounds in donations. Learning and training to kill does not make you a hero IMO.
I do have respect for the people of WW1 and WW2. They had no choice and they did sacrifice their lives for the cause without taking a wage.
Ill continue to donate to save the children. They kids in Syria and Africa 'really' need it.Last edited by CB_NO3; 04-11-2014 at 10:54 AM.
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04-11-2014 11:25 AM #93This quote is hidden because you are ignoring this member. Show Quote
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04-11-2014 11:55 AM #94
Have to say that whilst it's a free country, some of the opinions expressed on here are, IMHO, disrespectful to those who either have or are currently serving their country. Therefore, maybe the thread would be better closed..?
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04-11-2014 12:10 PM #95This quote is hidden because you are ignoring this member. Show Quote
I recommend everyone read McIntosh's posts on this thread for an articulate and compassionate view on how we can support remembrance without glorifying warfare.
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04-11-2014 12:21 PM #97This quote is hidden because you are ignoring this member. Show Quote
What Hibs and QoS are doing is a good thing.
I give to a handful of charities by direct debit every month, however, I checked beforehand that the money I give goes (in the most part) to the needy and not the management. I agree with Sergey that many charities are run as a profit centre to the benefit of those that manage it rather than for those they are meant to help.
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04-11-2014 12:41 PM #98This quote is hidden because you are ignoring this member. Show Quote
No no many hibbies though.
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04-11-2014 02:50 PM #100
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04-11-2014 02:58 PM #101This quote is hidden because you are ignoring this member. Show Quote
Soldiers? An excuse for some to air their own prejudices, political agendas and even belittle what they do. Sometimes this place can be pretty mean spirited.Every gimmick hungry yob,
Digging gold from rock and roll
Grabs the mic to tell us,
He'll die before he's sold.
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04-11-2014 03:16 PM #102
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Will no one think of us poor bank workers?
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04-11-2014 03:36 PM #103
I would have preferred it if the club had quietly had a bucket collection outside the ground without any fuss and a minutes SILENCE, not applause. Joining the race to be seen to be supporting the UK armed forces in the most up-front fashion is a bit sad. It's the modern way to show off about ones charitable giving I suppose. The generation I knew who served in WW1 and WW2 would have been embarrassed about the fuss.
"Washing one's hands of the conflict between the powerful and the powerless means to side with the powerful, not to be neutral.' - Paulo Freire
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04-11-2014 03:48 PM #104This quote is hidden because you are ignoring this member. Show Quote
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I would say that you comment is more politically charged than McCrae's poem.
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04-11-2014 04:08 PM #106
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Do you see Sellick fans as IRA terrorists ?? id guess that this would be a higher percentage than Huns as heroes
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04-11-2014 04:09 PM #107
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04-11-2014 04:13 PM #108
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I must admit to being extremely saddened by this thread.
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04-11-2014 04:19 PM #109This quote is hidden because you are ignoring this member. Show Quote
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Last edited by HUTCHYHIBBY; 04-11-2014 at 04:30 PM.
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04-11-2014 04:31 PM #111
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I think the point that this thread is NOT about nurses and fireman is precisely the point.
As a general rule, when it comes to charitable giving I tend to favour the victims of events over which they have no control - health related for example. Modern soldiers choose to be soldiers.
I do also worry about the US style jingoism that is increasingly being trumpeted around our armed forces, and I don't want the Uk to go down that militaristic road.
However I appreciate that for many (too many?) remembrance and jingoism about the armed forces have become inseparable. The Daily Mail is the fastest growing newspaper in Scotland apparently.
Add in the sense of one-upmanship that Hearts have created in this space, where it seems we are all competing to see who remembers most and best, and I dislike it and don't think we should be doing it. A minute's silence for the fallen used to suffice. Dignified and personal. Now we all have to PR it up to prove we 'support our boys'.
I also have a general belief that Hibs, as a broad church whose fans represent all political beliefs, religions etc, should really just focus on doing what we all Hibs fans do pay their hard-earned towards, and that's being a football team, pure and simple. Leave the charity, community work etc to individual fans to make their own choices that best reflect their own personal beliefs.
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04-11-2014 04:35 PM #112This quote is hidden because you are ignoring this member. Show Quote
And the rest of your post just proves my point.Every gimmick hungry yob,
Digging gold from rock and roll
Grabs the mic to tell us,
He'll die before he's sold.
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04-11-2014 04:41 PM #113
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Because its been thought out,this is the worst post on this thread,this is a thread to thank whats going on v QotS ,why not start a thread called " off Hibs" and you can all spit bile and happy clap until its over...
Totally disgusted.
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04-11-2014 04:52 PM #115
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But the fact there isn't, which I think is the point the previous poster was trying to make.
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04-11-2014 05:11 PM #117This quote is hidden because you are ignoring this member. Show Quote
Soldiers do what you ask them to do, what their country asks them, we don't choose to leave our families for years, to do the jobs that we are asked we just get on with it.
The poppy and the act of remembrance Is not about todays Army but paying respect for the thousands that gave their lives for you! for your freedom, for your right to debate and speak freely. This is not about today but for the past. if is the charities you are concerned about, then am ashamed for you.
God bless the Hibs!
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04-11-2014 05:20 PM #119This quote is hidden because you are ignoring this member. Show QuoteHIBERNIAN FC - ON THE RIGHT SIDE OF HISTORY SINCE 1875
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